discuss The 3D Showcase and Discussion

[saucey]

Hi everyone! The 3D market appears to be exploding! Record takes at the box office by movies such as Avatar and Alice in Wonderland and the announcement this week of the new 3D TV which is set to hit markets shortly have helped buoy interest in 3D multimedia platforms. Even the major American television network NBC has jumped in and will be broadcasting the NCAA Final Four basketball games in 3D!

A direct beneficiary from this renewed interest and greatly improved 3D technology is the domain business. Some of you had foresight many years ago and reg'd great names early on. Others (myself included) have only become aquainted with 3D domaining more recently, but see the huge potential this market has opened up for domainers.

Let this be the place for you to show off your 3D domain names. Ask for opinions, marketing strategies or even an appraisal or guesstimation of value. Also, feel free to post any relevant news releases/articles related to the 3D industry.

I will start the thread off with a few of my own reg's..

3DHighDefinitionTV.com (also have plural)
3DHomeEntertainment.co.uk
3DHometheaters.org
3DStreamingMovie.com
3DVancouver.com
3DWhistler.com

Saucey.

 

[larryp]

great now you made me reg
3-dhelp.com

 

[exsedo]

Had occasion to visit a couple of big stores today and noticed that they don't have 3D tv's yet. But they were selling HD Tv's cheap, buy now pay in 2011. I just got the feeling that they were trying to shift them before the 3D tv market really hits home. ( Or maybe I am just a bit biased ).

 

[eyedomainous]

Yet the fact remains... even a thriving trend does not make any 'related' domain names valuable.

Where did you get this "fact" from? Facts need to be verified. Simply stating that something is a fact does not make it so. And one must esthablish a fact before it can "remain".

In fact, you got it all wrong. Its the other way around.

A thriving trend DOES make any related domain name more valuable, if only for the person who registered it. As without the "thriving trend" the domainer would not value the name enough to buy it.

 

[FUTRS]

Where did you get this "fact" from? Facts need to be verified. Simply stating that something is a fact does not make it so. And one must esthablish a fact before it can "remain".

In fact, you got it all wrong. Its the other way around.

A thriving trend DOES make any related domain name more valuable, if only for the person who registered it. As without the "thriving trend" the domainer would not value the name enough to buy it.

Great Post... Very Well Put!!
Welcome to the Great Debate!


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Talk About The Dash!!!!!


How far into the game and i'm able to steal these away for a 2 year reg fee!!


• 3-d Porn.co.uk
• 3-d Sex.co.uk
• 3-d Game.co.uk




"...I have to say, it was a good day"
-ice cube

 

[bmugford]

I have not seen many people question if 3D is going to popular. However, no matter how popular 3D is low quality 3D domains will not be.

The main problem is many people in this thread are not experienced enough to understand what makes a quality domain. I would suggest some of the people in this thread look around NP and learn something. There is a bigger world out there than the extremely narrow 3D domain niche.

Other than D-K, who is an experienced domainer, I don't see many others doing all that great selling 3D domains.

Brad

lol, I think the naysayers have been reading stuff in the newspapers and on the net and realise that maybe its not just a fad that will be gone in 12-24 months, 3D is here to stay, what we dont know for sure, is just how big the 3D technology will become

I am coming across 3D articles without even looking for them lately

 

[mrcurly]

Other than D-K, who is an experienced domainer, I don't see many others doing all that great selling 3D domains.
Brad

So if D-K is the best what does that make the rest? To be a "experienced domainer" you have to start somewhere, I hope everyone has success in selling their 3D domains!

 

[bmugford]

To become an "experienced domainer" you have to be open to listening to what others have to say and learn.

Brad

So if D-K is the best what does that make the rest? To be a "experienced domainer" you have to start somewhere, I hope everyone has success in selling their 3D domains!

 

[FUTRS]

so in all seriousness bmug

.. how about you take the time to explain to us what makes a good domain name to you.. also be sure to let us know if your description is factual or opinionated... and if i may also ask
... as politely as i can as to not start another argument here...
.. your experience in domaining... what industries or niche's do you or have you focused on throughout your 'career' (?)... also why you think that experience translates into 100% accuracy.

i'm serious.. not trying to argue with you.. i mean, if you want us to all listen to you, you need to explain to us why we should... and what your idea's are.

thanks.. i look forward to your response.

 

[bmugford]

Here are the 3D related results from SEDO auction -

3dConsole.com $146 (110 EUR)
3dVirtual.com $100

Neither one met the reserve. Considering 3DConsole.com is better than 95%+ of the domains in this thread, I am not sure that says much about the value of others in the current market.

Brad

so in all seriousness bmug

.. how about you take the time to explain to us what makes a good domain name to you.. also be sure to let us know if your description is factual or opinionated... and if i may also ask
... as politely as i can as to not start another argument here...
.. your experience in domaining... what industries or niche's do you or have you focused on throughout your 'career' (?)... also why you think that experience translates into 100% accuracy.

i'm serious.. not trying to argue with you.. i mean, if you want us to all listen to you, you need to explain to us why we should... and what your idea's are.

thanks.. i look forward to your response.

 

[FUTRS]

ok .. thank you for your example...
.. but that's really not anything i asked you just now.

we could probably go back and forth and bring up a hundred names that have either sold higher than expected or lower than expected... i want you to somehow find a way to put stock in your word.

please.

thanks.

 

[bmugford]

I don't want this thread to be closed again.

As far as advice goes you can take it or leave it. I don't really care either way.

Brad

ok .. thank you for your example...
.. but that's really not anything i asked you just now.

we could probably go back and forth and bring up a hundred names that have either sold higher than expected or lower than expected... i want you to somehow find a way to put stock in your word.

please.

thanks.

 

[saucey]

I don't want this thread to be closed again.

As far as advice goes you can take it or leave it. I don't really care either way.

Brad

Neither do I!!

Brad, I appreciate your input.. I know you have great experience in domains.

Point taken.

 

[opalxx]

I have not seen many people question if 3D is going to popular. However, no matter how popular 3D is low quality 3D domains will not be.

The main problem is many people in this thread are not experienced enough to understand what makes a quality domain. I would suggest some of the people in this thread look around NP and learn something. There is a bigger world out there than the extremely narrow 3D domain niche.

Other than D-K, who is an experienced domainer, I don't see many others doing all that great selling 3D domains.

Brad

Perhaps in your eyes we are all a bunch of impulsive lunkheads, but so what. We all think differently thank heavens, and something looking good to one may look like a bunch of old cobblers to another. Perhaps you are forgetting the enjoyment of the chase, doing something constructive and learning the ropes by our mistakes as we go along. We can't all be instant domain gurus with our first names worth millions and so what if it costs us a few bucks for this learning experience and a little fun. At least we are keeping our minds active which is a healthy past time. I guess that all we have to do is sell one domain to pay for our mistakes, and then we can go right along and make some more mistakes. Perhaps you and D-K can guide us into marketing tips rather than just have our names sitting on SEDO with the other millions hoping someone is going to pick yours. The way i think (and not many think like me) there are some pretty good names on this thread.

 

[FUTRS]

i don't think i'm giving anybody a hard time... i welcome the advice... i'm sorry if this is upsetting you... i thought i asked a good question, at least form my seat... i would love to know more, i don't know much about you or your experience.

sorry if this upsets you.. i will no longer address you or your posts, i guess.

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.. so how 'bout them Yankees?

 

[Blitz]

From an outsider to this thread, it seems like everyone is trying to register 3d"anything"."anyextension" just so the next domainer can't. Are you guys/girls flipping any of these? I visited your site 3ddomainnames and couldn't believe the list of fresh reg 3d domain names. How are you doing at selling them? Good I hope. I have a few so I am on board with 3d, but many of these posted in the thread are far fetched (3dSarahPalin dotcom). I guess my biggest question is what your buy/sell ratio is and are you making your investment back? (unless some of you are in it for the hunt only, which is fine also)

 

[Kate]

There is nothing wrong with dabbling in 3D or any other niche. Even if profits do not materialize.

In domaining it's all about quality, not quantity.
It's 99% quality and 1% chance.

My point is, instead of registering tens of multi-keyword domains in non-.com extensions (aka 'low quality domains') it would be wiser to concentrate on a limited set of upper quality domains. Hint: the best domains are usually found on the aftermarket.

Registering tens/hundreds of domains is fun, renewing them isn't.
If you consider this a learning experience, why not try to limit losses. Better yet, sell before you register another. Domain sales are the best form of appraisal.

 

[pjam1110]

As I am completely all for 3D domains and have invested money into this market I do agree that about 75% of the new very recent regs are a hope and a prayer of anyone making any money on but that doesnt mean that some people in this thread do not have great quality names with a huge potential.

This is an early market right now so the numbers in sales will not be where we want them to be as of yet and the majority are not buying names and quick flipping them.Thats not what investing is. I plan on developing some more of mine and holding on to them. I guess the point is the 3D industry is very young and when people invest money its just that investing for the future. Some investments pan out and some dont, but until the market grows all the arguments are pointless.

I would also like to mention that without risk there's no reward. As far as domaining goes there is always going to be risk. Some riskier than others but if its not your dime we are spending so be it. Before this market takes off no one is right or wrong. Just means some here are conservative or aggressive.

 

[eyedomainous]

There is nothing wrong with dabbling in 3D or any other niche. Even if profits do not materialize.

In domaining it's all about quality, not quantity.
It's 99% quality and 1% chance.

My point is, instead of registering tens of multi-keyword domains in non-.com extensions (aka 'low quality domains') it would be wiser to concentrate on a limited set of upper quality domains. Hint: the best domains are usually found on the aftermarket.

Registering tens/hundreds of domains is fun, renewing them isn't.
If you consider this a learning experience, why not try to limit losses. Better yet, sell before you register another. Domain sales are the best form of appraisal.

Very smart post, IMO.

 

[Angel Eyes]

I am new to the domain world I have been reading this thread and find it interesting the idea of 3D websites would be a great experience..does anyone have any links with any 3D sites live today.

I also don't own any domains..and not really looking to buy into 3D I am still learning

 

[eyedomainous]

More than a few have pointed to the 3dsarahpalin reg to illustrate how ridiculous some of the regs in this thread are... and I must admit it was a WTF moment for me as well the first time I saw it. I had the same reaction when I discovered someone reg'd 3dPope.com and 3dObama.com.

Then I thought... if the owners use those domains to sell those 3D hologram-ish handcards, posters and tshirts then they would have the last laugh... all the way to the bank.

The point is, what may seem to be a stupid reg to you or me may actually be a smart move for someone with a plan. But no doubt just putting 3D on any dictionary word thats "available" is NOT a smart move.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

Also... back to the dash... here's a newly regged .com that's not exactly pretty, but highly searched and also popular in the 3d community. (makes it even stranger to see this available on .com)

• 3-D CAD.com

Just don't get 3D modeling mixed up with 3D visual experiences. A number of people here have a problem with that.

 

[WordWalker]

I don't want this thread to be closed again.

As far as advice goes you can take it or leave it. I don't really care either way.

Brad

*For the "quick-flip" domainer, domain names are not so much different than stock options. Domain name registrations create a one year window within which the domain registrant has the exclusive right to exercise control over the name registered. If not renewed, the domain name expires "out-of-the-money" without value.

It should be pointed out, however, that stock options don't carry the specific intellectual property legal risks associated with domain names (and stock options are much more regulated). Needless to say, with any speculative investment there are both winners and losers. No doubt, choosing winning domain names has got to be less of a crap-shoot than choosing winning lotto numbers. I don't "quick-flip", but that doesn't mean the strategy is wrong for everybody.

God help us all when Wall Street discovers the underlying potential contained within this post!

Btw, the direct benefit to my having made this post is that I discovered the domain name "QuickFlip.org" was available for registration. That's a name worth holding onto (IMHO).

*None of this posting is intended as legal advice. Contact your domain, trademark and/or securities attorney for that.

 

[Jaco]

*For the "quick-flip" domainer, domain names are not so much different than stock options.

I'm waiting for the domain world to come up with a trading instrument so I can actively short 3d domains.

 

[FUTRS]

I just came back from the store - Walmart - and couldn't help laughing to myself at the feeding frenzy marketers EVERYWHERE are already having at the expense of 3d. Being a designer in the marketing industry, i can't say it enough... DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF MARKETING!! ... cause in the end, that's what we're all at mercy to... embedded branding and catchy slogans that go deep into the consumers subconscious can either make or break ya.

First there was the 3d posters which were nothing but holograms that 'appeared' to move if you looked from a different angle... and then there was the 3d Shark Slip and Slide that did nothing but let the kid 'slip and slide' his way into a carboard cutout of a shark mouth... and this was my favorite... the "3d Sidewalk Chaulk"... they were actually packaging this with 3d glasses... this was nothing but regular ole chalk... (anyone have '3dSidewalkChalk'? haha)
.. but one thing is for sure... whether you bought in to this whole 3d craze or not, we're ALL going to wind up HATING the term '3D' before all is said and done... no matter how much money anyone here loses or makes.

and no dubdub .. i know the difference in the two '3d's' .. i went to school for cad but that doesn't make that reg any less surprising to me.
(started out on lightwatve and poser.. very cool stuff!!)

and yes .. there are some RIDICULOUS names being regged .. i heard someone mention 3dpillow somewhere... and then there was 3dbald .. and 3d elevator... or the latest 'laugh out loud' 3d domain name, the one the naysayers will walk around and use as an example as to how ridiculous we all are, the instant-classic, 3dsarahpalin...

but those are the norm in ANY thread topics anywhere in here... go take a peek in the official 'i' domains... or the official 'e' domains ... or the law domains that are 37 characters long... you ever see the dropped lists that come out everyday?... i still can't believe some of the names that people actually took money out of their pockets for .. 3d or not... it really is amazing what people will register.

Word Walker and Pjam pretty much nailed it.. your style of domaining is your style... and mine is mine.. and his is his.. etc... maybe you like flipping names within names within a secure market - that's you man... some of us like to buy in cheap and hope for the best - that's us - our style... i haven't tried to contact one single seller... have a had a handful of offers finally that i keep saying no to.. nothing big, by far .. no high $xxx or anything like that... but those were most likely other domainers kicking the tires and i'm also not looking to sell right now anyway... i will list a bunch of names come the summertime that will become available if anyone wants them, but none o them are going to be 'heavy hitter', so to speak.

If this is looked at as a business, and you are responsible enough to factor in your monthly overhead and stash away your fee's for next year's registrations, whether parked money, or affiliate or money from your own pocket, this would be no different than ANY OTHER BUSINESS expense - at least it SHOULD be viewed as such.

And not to take anything away from any seasoned domainer - in ANY way - but this game is a lot more than 1% chance, please don't kid yourself.

And one last thing to the naysayers
... have you ever been wrong? have you played every single market and new extension perfectly? i mean, really.. have you ever had the chance to register a name, passed on it, only to watch it sell for high $x,xxx (or higher?) ..
.. i know this a thought that may make your head spin and your stomach turn... but maybe we really are right, us 3d Domainers.

As the others have said, we have no choice but to sit and wait to see what what awaits us... for the most part, the ones who bought in will all go to war with what they hold now... but at least we're in the game... and for many, in it for the long haul, so wish us luck instead of telling us how stupid we are... the damage has been done - the money has been spent - nothing we can do now but ride it out...

... maybe with some shouts of encouragement or some tips as to how to contact sellers and/or what to say - instead of insults every other day, would keep the fire down in this thread and the posts actually HELPFUL.
(imagine that)


***BTW - 3dSpeeches.com is still available.

Njoy everybody

 

[gilescoley]

did u like the 3d-Games.es? Pretty excited about this - especially after you somehow used your magic on my last 3dgame.es name

I dont like the hyphen, but still certainly worth the reg IMO

I have not seen many people question if 3D is going to popular. However, no matter how popular 3D is low quality 3D domains will not be.

The main problem is many people in this thread are not experienced enough to understand what makes a quality domain. I would suggest some of the people in this thread look around NP and learn something. There is a bigger world out there than the extremely narrow 3D domain niche.

Other than D-K, who is an experienced domainer, I don't see many others doing all that great selling 3D domains.

Brad

Hey Brad, there were some domainers that came on and made comments about it not becoming mainstream, I think it might have been on the old 3D thread that was open, that the mods closed. It wasnt someone like you who will stick around and offer discussions and make intelligent comments, it was a more throwing in a comment and then not backing it up and disappearing. That really annoyed me.

I dont protest to be an experienced domainer, but I can hopfully tell a good domain from a bad domain...please let me know if I cant lol...I haven't sold one 3D yet, but thats mainly because I haven't approached anyone to try and sell and I have rejected all offers I have received.

To become an "experienced domainer" you have to be open to listening to what others have to say and learn.

Well said, biggest mistake people make