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Suspicious Domain Data at Auction

Labeled as discuss in General Domain Discussion started by Ategy.com, Jul 26, 2017.

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  1. Ategy.com

    Ategy.com NameCult.com Gold Account VIP

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    A few years ago before I really started domaining, I participated in a handful of auctions at GoDaddy based solely on traffic data and revenue. I very shortly found out that the numbers were mostly fake. Back then I didn't really even know the difference between an expiring auction and non-expiring auction, so I can't really say if it was an individual deliberately trying to fix his/her auction stats or if it was just garbage traffic (obviously 9/10 after I received ownership of the domain the traffic dropped off a cliff).

    Anyhow, now that I'm more aware of what is going on I notice some questionable metrics/patterns from time to time. Given the issues with NameJet last week I think it's not a bad idea to share these suspicions to know whether it's unmerited paranoia ... or something worth investigating further.

    Over the last several weeks and even months, I've noticed an unnaturally high proportion of older .com domains (10+ years) that include the word "London" to have a traffic of exactly 30 (occasionally a small amount scattered in with the 30's will have exactly double at 60). It just seems way too unnatural for me to believe.

    They are mostly expiring domains it seems, so my only guess is maybe these were formerly held by someone who actually did create fake traffic for some reason (either to inflate data for resell, or to scam cash parking). Most of them seem to actually sell (not sure if at auction or closeout).

    Does anyone know what to think? Am I wrong to feel something is out of place? I took a couple of screenshots to show what I mean. First 2 screen grabs are from about 3 weeks ago .. the last one I took just now. It's an ongoing pattern I've noticed for a while, certainly not at all limited to just the 2 periods in time I captured. Mostly, but not exclusively, the "London" is at the start of the domain.

    On a related note .. One of my biggest pet peeves with GoDaddy is that at auction they hide the fact a domain is blacklisted from their aftermarket parking because of known fraudulent activity .. but then the moment you apply they instantly seem to have that fact on hand. I always thought of this as being the same as with latent/hidden defects in real estate transactions.


    gd-london-30.GIF

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    Today:
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  2. Kuffy

    Kuffy Name Stag VIP

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    It may be someone who thought that London names would take off as a result of Brexit, and he has now changed his mind because of government vacillation. He may be a bit premature, as 80% of the Keiser Reich bonds are traded through London, and the head of Barclays has stated that they are NOT moving the trading platform out of London.

    I agree that the traffic count of 30 looks suspicious, and it would be easy to generate this with cross linking. The decaying of traffic as a result of external links is fairly usual. I've been buying traffic names recently, and the traffic drops off as the site is changed and external links are removed. I haven't been doing the work that is needed to preserve some of the links. :)
     
  3. barefooted

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    I checked two names and think all all the same - their registrant is the same and behaviour is to redirect and create fake Adsense visits:
    http://www.shopslondon.com/index.php5?cx=partner-pub-6687622916938034:8fgqimxxj91&cof=FORID:10&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=+Shops+London
    So it looks like visitor came from Google search.
    I checked sites containing that pub- number and they are more than 10,000!
    Regarding London - it is maybe to look more legit.
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  4. Ategy.com

    Ategy.com NameCult.com Gold Account VIP

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    Another batch of suspicious London names ...

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  5. Ategy.com

    Ategy.com NameCult.com Gold Account VIP

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    Yet another batch of suspicious names ... :-/
    gd-london-30-5b.GIF
     
  6. Ategy.com

    Ategy.com NameCult.com Gold Account VIP

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    A little more looking around and it seems this suspicious data goes well beyond just expiring domains that contain "London".

    I just ran a search of all expiring domains aged 14-16 years scheduled for auction (over next 10 days) that have a "Traffic" value of between 26 and 35, yielding 213 domains. You'd expect an average of about 21 domains for each traffic amount of 26 through 35. But the results were as follows:

    26: 20
    27: 2
    28: 8
    29: 1
    30: 159 <----
    31: 1
    32: 1
    33: 8
    34: 3
    35: 10


    Here's the raw list of domains in question along with listed traffic:

    makeuponsale.com 35
    palace-resorts-cancun.com 35
    bethlehemmasonictemple.com 35
    garden-mortgage.com 35
    homesinnewbern.com 35
    edufaq.com 35
    ielectricity.com 35
    windsorsocial.com 35
    milanocafe.com 35
    extralifeclub.com 35
    boocoorunning.com 34
    3tomboys.com 34
    bmeisner.com 34
    jkfritz.com 33
    ad-select.com 33
    familydentalhealthcenter.com 33
    srssatellite.com 33
    tbirdnut.com 33
    accunl.com 33
    sjexchangeclub.com 33
    manilastandardonline.com 33
    allrvsales.com 32
    modutecengineers.com 31
    londonyellow.com 30
    londonyachts.com 30
    londonoutlet.com 30
    londonoutlets.com 30
    streathamhotels.com 30
    orpingtonhotels.com 30
    crouchendhotels.com 30
    newcrosshotels.com 30
    stjohnswoodhotels.com 30
    watfordhotels.com 30
    dartfordhotels.com 30
    westbourneparkhotels.com 30
    bigginhillhotels.com 30
    vauxhallhotels.com 30
    nataliewolfe.com 30
    vacacionesdegolf.com 30
    phishtown.com 30
    okeasia.com 30
    surabhihandicraft.com 30
    escbizservices.com 30
    patscreativestitches.com 30
    stopbeatingaroundthebush.com 30
    notariachia.com 30
    oregonfilmgroup.com 30
    williamsburgvirgina.com 30
    reomas.com 30
    londonteams.com 30
    thompsonhillco.com 30
    londonwatford.com 30
    txbikeshow.com 30
    casasia.com 30
    bfconnect.com 30
    christinebruynell.com 30
    karabruynell.com 30
    aandlfineart.com 30
    trishabruynell.com 30
    sds-law.com 30
    mlmeng.com 30
    ccpasia.com 30
    opleiden.com 30
    greghuber.com 30
    toyys.com 30
    elemankiralama.com 30
    mylearningzone.com 30
    uniteque.com 30
    lotasia.com 30
    moldinspectortraining.com 30
    margeryammon.com 30
    theedollhousemiami.com 30
    productsinmotion.com 30
    mountmonadnock.com 30
    swimsuitdepot.com 30
    banderahuntersbbq.com 30
    dailytraveldeals.com 30
    kampalaguide.com 30
    lilleguide.com 30
    harareguide.com 30
    osakaguides.com 30
    louisvilleguides.com 30
    manchesterguides.com 30
    visithartford.com 30
    pretoriaguides.com 30
    delhiguides.com 30
    bhopalguide.com 30
    warsawguides.com 30
    visitharare.com 30
    milanguides.com 30
    dallasguides.com 30
    edmontonguides.com 30
    jacksonvilleguides.com 30
    adisababaguides.com 30
    milwaukeeguides.com 30
    pittsburghguides.com 30
    minneapolisguides.com 30
    lisbonguides.com 30
    liverpoolguides.com 30
    santacruzguides.com 30
    lahoreguide.com 30
    glasgowguides.com 30
    integritycoins.com 30
    juniorlondon.com 30
    animateddolls.com 30
    shopping-bookmarks.com 30
    mykent.com 30
    extendasia.com 30
    octpob.com 30
    waltermichaels.com 30
    sport-joechl.com 30
    artsalesonline.com 30
    amnasia.com 30
    holylandcrafts.com 30
    dbmasia.com 30
    energy-jobs.com 30
    fightever.com 30
    michaelscasaquintana.com 30
    cslodgings.com 30
    erdasa.com 30
    gmoasia.com 30
    hatchiecoon.com 30
    vdiembroidery.com 30
    jokbazar.com 30
    mcgowanphotography.com 30
    fciasia.com 30
    londonbusinessmagazine.com 30
    lurasart.com 30
    globalvisionlink.com 30
    aeonmiller.com 30
    notikitos.com 30
    vcchristianchurch.com 30
    allcanadacollect.com 30
    thegreatstupa.com 30
    autoridadcertificante.com 30
    onlymusclecars.com 30
    high-school-disco.com 30
    motorcycleslocator.com 30
    dream3d.com 30
    foxesbbq.com 30
    cyberescribano.com 30
    pdiasia.com 30
    joeasia.com 30
    runningasia.com 30
    cigasia.com 30
    gssasia.com 30
    luckyreef.com 30
    arremovals.com 30
    modemasia.com 30
    del-norte-dental.com 30
    williamsrealtyhomes.com 30
    llpasia.com 30
    londontechno.com 30
    abbyassociates.com 30
    garyheard.com 30
    tomopy.com 30
    konradhomes.com 30
    londonspirit.com 30
    londonartsfestivals.com 30
    adtbelgium.com 30
    savannahbulldogs.com 30
    pushasia.com 30
    sbtasia.com 30
    punkyporn.com 30
    eve69.com 30
    cbutts.com 30
    car77.com 30
    imapackerfan.com 30
    renaissancemfg.com 30
    my-mart.com 30
    momoland.com 30
    fraochdesign.com 30
    carlosflorez.com 30
    lokkit.com 30
    southsidemibor.com 30
    bowsandbritches.com 30
    dzdnb.com 30
    signs2graphics.com 30
    concerts-nashville.com 30
    concerts-losangeles.com 30
    hisajezikov.com 30
    amco-cellular.com 30
    7wdjc.com 29
    goromypc.com 28
    shoresbowl.com 28
    jpichler.com 28
    concordcorporation.com 28
    pickledpages.com 28
    cacodinc.com 28
    schmidtmuseum.com 28
    nyexoticentertainment.com 28
    johnnybrothers.com 27
    enewnesslaw.com 27
    txwebworking.com 26
    lancersclub.com 26
    nadacsys.com 26
    bromeliamart.com 26
    hitmanfightgear.com 26
    nonreligiouswedding.com 26
    minutedating.com 26
    roundrobindating.com 26
    salondavidperez.com 26
    eventhorizongroup.com 26
    markroan.com 26
    cgstudios.com 26
    hubcaparte.com 26
    theparkwayapartments.com 26
    kelmattmusicpublishing.com 26
    victoriavera.com 26
    andreaharris.com 26
    drbesperka.com 26
    ticketsfinder.com 26
    shemalef_cking.com 26
     
  7. Ategy.com

    Ategy.com NameCult.com Gold Account VIP

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    Ever since I posted this last year this suspicious trend of "multiples of 30" traffic has continued almost without stop. Today as I was putting together my daily list of domains I noticed an unusually high number of 5L .com domains hitting auction .. and then noticed an absurdly high number of them with the same "multiple of 30" traffic data.

    Theoretically the total number of domains with a multiple of 30 should be about 1/30 the total of all others .. but in this case it's actually 56 times the total of all other combined.

    A result 1700 TIMES greater than what would be the naturally expected ratio ..

    Here are the stats .. decide for yourselves:

    Total 5L expiring domains hitting GoDaddy auctions today: 3790
    225 domains with zero traffic
    275 total domains between 1 to 5 traffic
    144 total domains between 6 to 10 traffic

    64 total domains between 11 to 15 traffic
    then:
    53 total number of domains with traffic above 15 not a multiple of 30
    vs
    3010 total number of domains with traffic of a multiple of EXACTLY 30


    Further traffic breakdown:

    225 domains x 0 traffic
    6 domains x 1 traffic
    140 x 2 traffic
    19 x 3
    110 x 4
    19 x 5
    23 x 6
    49 x 7
    16 x 8
    43 x 9
    13 x 10
    27 x 11
    5 x 12
    12 x 13
    6 x 14
    14 x 15
    24 total x between 16 and 29 traffic
    2869 x exactly 30 traffic <-------------- ?????
    17 total x between 31 and 59 traffic
    116 exactly 60 traffic
    6 total x between 61 and 89 traffic
    10 x exactly 90 traffic
    6 total for all domains with traffic above 91 not a multiple of 30
    15 total for all domains with traffic stats above 91 of multiple of exactly 30 (120, 150, 180, 210. 240, 270. 300, 1380)
     

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