State of the Domain Industry!

[TOXX]

Ok, everywhere I look it seems like people are saying that the domain industry is going through "rough times"...is it REALLY that bad, or is this just propaganda?
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Did the worst already pass?

 

[Seabass]

I am not seeing PPC prices drop at all....... only strange fluctuations on the CTR and uniques on certain days. In fact, I am up about .08 cents per click over this time last year.

I think domaining will get worse for the foreseeable future.... and maybe not even solely b/c of a bad economy..... but b/c Google cuts out the "long tail", or Yahoo crumbles before our eyes, etc....

There is no healthy eco-system in domaining anymore. The game is changing...... and the ever-decreasing payout to us is "just business" coming from a maturing company, being Google. They need us much less now.

Here's a potentially scary test to check your vulnerablity to these economic woes:

Using a made-up scenario, take 10% off your current CTR and lower your PPC rate by .05 cents and apply it to any given day's stats and then see what your payout is.

Is it enough to cover your bills and then some? If not, you had better reassess your position and take measures to protect yourself before the big recession hammer comes down.

My guess is that many domainers could not take that hit beyond the current lower payouts..... which would be sad indeed.

 

[Jasonn]

I am not seeing PPC prices drop at all....... only strange fluctuations on the CTR and uniques on certain days. In fact, I am up about .08 cents per click over this time last year.

I think domaining will get worse for the foreseeable future.... and maybe not even solely b/c of a bad economy..... but b/c Google cuts out the "long tail", or Yahoo crumbles before our eyes, etc....

There is no healthy eco-system in domaining anymore. The game is changing...... and the ever-decreasing payout to us is "just business" coming from a maturing company, being Google. They need us much less now.

Here's a potentially scary test to check your vulnerablity to these economic woes:

Using a made-up scenario, take 10% off your current CTR and lower your PPC rate by .05 cents and apply it to any given day's stats and then see what your payout is.

Is it enough to cover your bills and then some? If not, you had better reassess your position and take measures to protect yourself before the big recession hammer comes down.

My guess is that many domainers could not take that hit beyond the current lower payouts..... which would be sad indeed.

I've always made it a rule to never rely on PPC to pay the bills. Granted I don't make much off PPC in comparison to some, especially since I don't park my best names but really domaining as a whole is risky business to soley live off of. If PPC dries up and sales dry up, where does that leave most people? Unless you make big sales to carry you through, it will be hard.

 

[goodkarmaco]

A blood bath for the markets

I know a few guys who made big money on gambling names up until a couple years ago. The new anti online gambling regulations put into effect in the USA shut out those profits.

They we go again another example of government intervention into the marketplace and the end result a disaster.

So they thought to diversify into finacial names. I don't have to tell you that strategy is not paying off. It won't in the future either. This downturn, although a few upward blips will come along and swoop up more suckers will continue to slide for at least three years. Hold on to your seat belts, its going to be a freefall and a bloodbath for the markets.

 

[bobbyjonez]

The industry is changing like the economy!

 

[Bravo]

Domains will hold their value better than other investments because the internet is still a growing industry, with more ad dollars moving here from tv, radio, newspapers, etc.

People might forgo a vacation, a shopping trip, buying a new car, eating out, but they won't give up their internet.

The lucky people are those with cash in hand now able to buy domains if they drop in price. It's like 2001 to 2003 all over again, but more competition.

Fortunes are made in times like this by people who can pick out the good from the bad amid the wreckage and hold until the economy bounces back.

Agree. Nice post.

 

[Seabass]

If the credit markets freeze up...... nothing anyone can say about the growth of the Net, money shifting from Old Media to New Media, better ROI on the Net b/c it is trackable, etc......will matter b/c those points will be moot.

Those points don't come into play too much if money is frozen.

 

[TOXX]

If the credit markets freeze up...... nothing anyone can say about the growth of the Net, money shifting from Old Media to New Media, better ROI on the Net b/c it is trackable, etc......will matter b/c those points will be moot.

Those points don't come into play too much if money is frozen.

We have to think positive, though...I know it may not be the real world, but in the real world NOTHING can be truly predicted...as we see now with the US economy.
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The future IS the Internet and WE domainers as "the founding fathers" have to hold on to what is ours!

 

[goodkarmaco]

domainers are not immune to this downfall

Aot of domainers are just holding on. Tons of names are not being renewed as money is getting tighter and tighter. Ebay just layed off 1,000 employees. Gm is going bankrupt, over 1,000 banks will fail in the near future.

They are not telling you this, but right now we are having a big run on the banks.

The 700 billion dollar bailout is just to get their foot in the door. They will inflate that into the stratosphere to try to bail out their buddies in the Wall St. and the banking world. Those who laughed at some of us who warned of this awful scenario are going to be petrified as this unfolds.

Then we have 300 brave souls who sit across the street from Wall St at the Traffic convention watching the downfall and mayhem unfold saying they are immune to the bloodbath.

Wake up domainers, they are not immune to this and you and I are not either. Your country has sold out to nationalization and socialism. The freedoms once enjoyed in America are getting smothered by fear. That fear manufactured by the white house is the tool they use to get what they want. Stupid people who should know better, who have seen that fear being used in the past to get what the President wanted, Ie, the War, lies, lies and more lies, just keep buying the crap.

Everything in the economy is strong they have been saying as the capital markets have been falling. What have we been told every time another disaaster hit Wall st for two years since the subprime mess? The economy is strong and no the subprime problems will not spill over into the economy.

Berneke, Paulson, President Bush have been lying to you for a very long time, right up to a couple weeks ago.

Then over the weekend the revelation, we hear these words, we have to provide a bailout and if we don't it will have a terrible outcome, if we don't our savings and money for retirement will evaporate.

Now this country is cheering on for another new President and both of them want to take money from one group, (you the taxpayers) and give to the very thugs who thru fraud and theivery stole trillions out of our once free market system.

These morons are as stupid as the ones running everything now. Its over folks. Waste of time to even vote this time around, even if superman was president the economy will fall.

In the end it will be proven, Paulson who was the Ceo of Goldman Sachs allowed credit defaults to be leveraged to trillions and trillions of dollars thru Aig. They sold this toxic investment to every country in the world. That is why they closed the books for bidding to foreign investors. They knew that the books would need to be open and that was one thing they could never allow to happen as the fraud would then be exposed.

That is why the bailouts were done over the weekend behind closed doors.

Fear, fear, lies and more lies. We are a stupid nation now, as people line up with their hands out wanting the money they never earned to pay for a house they could never afford.

Its over for the dollar. If you have a speck of any brain cells in your head you will come to the conclusion of the only safe place right now to invest your money. Hint, it is not made of the same stuff you wipe your ass with.

For sale goldmarketprice.com goldmarketprices.com

 

[Seabass]

Upon a major dollar collapse, it makes me wonder if a foreign search engine might one day end up paying more than an American based search engine in PPC, or would the standard currency used by search engines just then become the one from the country that has the strongest currency policies?

I guess I will just have to demand payment in gold from now on from Parked and Fabulous, and spend only the Dollars that come my way to make sure I get rid of them as quickly as possible.

I hate to say it Goodkarmaco......but I think you are right. I can't help but think that every politician and Gov't employee trying to "fix" this is just holding their breath and crossing their fingers b/c they have no friggin' idea if it will work or not..... it's all just blind hope, b/c they sure were all blind before the crisis.

 

[Pred]

Nice post Rod
rimmed

 

[gazzip]

Wake up domainers, they are not immune to this and you and I are not either.

I sure know I'm not immune to it - If I don't get a couple of decent enduser sales in the next 6 months or so I'll have to let quiet a few drop

Just incase I renewed a bunch till 2010/2011 .......so I'll be back :tu:


Seems amazing that amongst all the current turmoil in much of the world places like Saudi Arabia & Dubai are still announcing things like this a couple of days ago >

Dubai unveils $95bn ‘new city’ project


...pitty they don't seem that interested in buying .coms yet


Hmmm, maybe I should start learning Arabic

.

 

[TOXX]

Aot of domainers are just holding on. Tons of names are not being renewed as money is getting tighter and tighter. Ebay just layed off 1,000 employees. Gm is going bankrupt, over 1,000 banks will fail in the near future.

They are not telling you this, but right now we are having a big run on the banks.

The 700 billion dollar bailout is just to get their foot in the door. They will inflate that into the stratosphere to try to bail out their buddies in the Wall St. and the banking world. Those who laughed at some of us who warned of this awful scenario are going to be petrified as this unfolds.

Then we have 300 brave souls who sit across the street from Wall St at the Traffic convention watching the downfall and mayhem unfold saying they are immune to the bloodbath.

Wake up domainers, they are not immune to this and you and I are not either. Your country has sold out to nationalization and socialism. The freedoms once enjoyed in America are getting smothered by fear. That fear manufactured by the white house is the tool they use to get what they want. Stupid people who should know better, who have seen that fear being used in the past to get what the President wanted, Ie, the War, lies, lies and more lies, just keep buying the crap.

Everything in the economy is strong they have been saying as the capital markets have been falling. What have we been told every time another disaaster hit Wall st for two years since the subprime mess? The economy is strong and no the subprime problems will not spill over into the economy.

Berneke, Paulson, President Bush have been lying to you for a very long time, right up to a couple weeks ago.

Then over the weekend the revelation, we hear these words, we have to provide a bailout and if we don't it will have a terrible outcome, if we don't our savings and money for retirement will evaporate.

Now this country is cheering on for another new President and both of them want to take money from one group, (you the taxpayers) and give to the very thugs who thru fraud and theivery stole trillions out of our once free market system.

These morons are as stupid as the ones running everything now. Its over folks. Waste of time to even vote this time around, even if superman was president the economy will fall.

In the end it will be proven, Paulson who was the Ceo of Goldman Sachs allowed credit defaults to be leveraged to trillions and trillions of dollars thru Aig. They sold this toxic investment to every country in the world. That is why they closed the books for bidding to foreign investors. They knew that the books would need to be open and that was one thing they could never allow to happen as the fraud would then be exposed.

That is why the bailouts were done over the weekend behind closed doors.

Fear, fear, lies and more lies. We are a stupid nation now, as people line up with their hands out wanting the money they never earned to pay for a house they could never afford.

Its over for the dollar. If you have a speck of any brain cells in your head you will come to the conclusion of the only safe place right now to invest your money. Hint, it is not made of the same stuff you wipe your ass with.

For sale goldmarketprice.com goldmarketprices.com

Very keen...Sometimes I can't believe people's ignorance either...
(Rep Added )

 

[Corey]

Today the AUD to USD$ is $0.65c
Not so long ago it was $0.95c
it certainly affects my buying choices.

Cheers
Corey

 

[goodkarmaco]

Thanks,

I am out of patience and it shows in my writtings. I just want to warn my friends to not believe the bullshit being paraded in the news. They are petrified and their actions prove it.

Look at it like this, if you lived in a big apartment building, (USA economy) and the landlord was a drunken dick and he lived downstairs and you smelled smoke you would ask if everything is alright down there would you not? The guy slobbers out, sure go back to sleep as he pours gasoline on the little fire that was producing the smoke.

Your gonna burn right?

What the hell have these morons been doing to us? They are throwing gasoline on a small fire. Instead of telling us the truth two years ago that the banks are in trouble, they cover it and implement plans to fan the losses to Americans and the American way of life.

Its all about seeing the truth now.

The truth is, even though they have the printing press and can drop all the money they want with Ben at the controls from their rickity helicopter, it will only make the freefall faster and deeper.

China has told its banks to no longer buy our T bills. Our debt can no longer be financed as foriegn countries are not touching the dollar from here on out. I subscribe to some very good money newletters and several of them were told by a reliable source that the major banks in the U.S. have been notified to prepare for a bank holiday.

 

[Seabass]

Bank holiday?

Do you mean suddenly shutting their doors to the public, to avoid a bank runs?

 

[OctaneInv]

What the hell have these morons been doing to us? They are throwing gasoline on a small fire. Instead of telling us the truth two years ago that the banks are in trouble, they cover it and implement plans to fan the losses to Americans and the American way of life.

I'm not sure who you're talking about in your post, so I don't want to go off, but if "they" is the government, they had no obligation to tell us. It's not their job. In our capitalist economy, if it's anyone's job, it's the job of the companies that are going under. Some companies and presidents (of the companies, not the US :p) made poor choices, and in turn, the media freaked out. Th best example of this is Jim Cramer. The man is smart. Real smart. And people listen to him, but he made a very typical, media mistake, that I didn't expect from an expert like him, and he tweeked out, yelling "sell sell sell". If everyone just held what they had, there wouldn't be any drop in the economy; if we had stuck to our free market society, then the companies like AIG and Fannie/Freddie, etc, etc, would be out of business, and have to figure it out themselves. In this respect, I agree the government did us wrong. We have a republican president, who didn't stick to any party guidelines, and shot for the biggest government answer.

So, between the liberal media, poorly managed large corporations, and some unreliable governmental leadership, we are facing a small problem.

The thing is, it's just that. A small problem. We're not in a recession. We're not in a depression. We've only had a few days of red, and they've been blown out of proportion. We all need to relax, take a breath, and hold on to our assets.

 

[PowerUp]

Aot of domainers are just holding on. Tons of names are not being renewed as money is getting tighter and tighter. Ebay just layed off 1,000 employees. Gm is going bankrupt, over 1,000 banks will fail in the near future.

They are not telling you this, but right now we are having a big run on the banks.

The 700 billion dollar bailout is just to get their foot in the door. They will inflate that into the stratosphere to try to bail out their buddies in the Wall St. and the banking world. Those who laughed at some of us who warned of this awful scenario are going to be petrified as this unfolds.

Then we have 300 brave souls who sit across the street from Wall St at the Traffic convention watching the downfall and mayhem unfold saying they are immune to the bloodbath.

Wake up domainers, they are not immune to this and you and I are not either. Your country has sold out to nationalization and socialism. The freedoms once enjoyed in America are getting smothered by fear. That fear manufactured by the white house is the tool they use to get what they want. Stupid people who should know better, who have seen that fear being used in the past to get what the President wanted, Ie, the War, lies, lies and more lies, just keep buying the crap.

Everything in the economy is strong they have been saying as the capital markets have been falling. What have we been told every time another disaaster hit Wall st for two years since the subprime mess? The economy is strong and no the subprime problems will not spill over into the economy.

Berneke, Paulson, President Bush have been lying to you for a very long time, right up to a couple weeks ago.

Then over the weekend the revelation, we hear these words, we have to provide a bailout and if we don't it will have a terrible outcome, if we don't our savings and money for retirement will evaporate.

Now this country is cheering on for another new President and both of them want to take money from one group, (you the taxpayers) and give to the very thugs who thru fraud and theivery stole trillions out of our once free market system.

These morons are as stupid as the ones running everything now. Its over folks. Waste of time to even vote this time around, even if superman was president the economy will fall.

In the end it will be proven, Paulson who was the Ceo of Goldman Sachs allowed credit defaults to be leveraged to trillions and trillions of dollars thru Aig. They sold this toxic investment to every country in the world. That is why they closed the books for bidding to foreign investors. They knew that the books would need to be open and that was one thing they could never allow to happen as the fraud would then be exposed.

That is why the bailouts were done over the weekend behind closed doors.

Fear, fear, lies and more lies. We are a stupid nation now, as people line up with their hands out wanting the money they never earned to pay for a house they could never afford.

Its over for the dollar. If you have a speck of any brain cells in your head you will come to the conclusion of the only safe place right now to invest your money. Hint, it is not made of the same stuff you wipe your ass with.

For sale goldmarketprice.com goldmarketprices.com

Wow. I admire the effort you put in. A long sales pitch to sell 2 gold domains.

 

[Seabass]

Wow. I admire the effort you put in. A long sales pitch to sell 2 gold domains.

Goodkarmaco has been screaming this for months and months on NamePros.... me too.... but he has been much more vocal than me.... so the domains posted are really ancillary to the main points.

 

[TOXX]

So superman can't save us either??

 

[raredn.com]

So superman can't save us either??

But Jesus can

No matter what happens to the domain industry, the economy or the world
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