Social Network Gab.com being threatened by GoDaddy: 24 hours to transfer or suspension

[domainguy50]

backstory: Gab is a social network alternative to twitter. their selling point is free speech (all speech is welcome, including what you believe might be hate speech.) which is basically is the first amendment. no unlawful material is allowed, but virtually any speech is. recently they purchased the "gab com" domain for $220k.

this site is very controversial as a result, with mainstream media outlets claiming it is popular with nazi and anti-semite messages. the site has 800,000 users and has experienced modest growth recently so it really isnt all bad hate speech. regardless, those disgusting messages on the site by some users are also lawful no matter how distasteful they are. as a result of these media attacks, (and the recent revelation that the synagogue shooter in pittsburgh yesterday had an active gab profile) gab is being unfairly targeted by smear campaigns online reporting the site as "a hate speech site" via email to gab's service providers.

gabs host (microsoft) revoked its contract with gab a few months ago

gabs payment providers (paypal and stripe) just revoked their services

just a few minutes ago, godaddy has said they will stop working with gab:
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"BREAKING: Godaddy is threatening to suspend our domain (which is worth six figures) if we do not transfer to a new provider by tomorrow. This is madness."

the complexity of the situation is compounded by the fact that Gab is on a payment plan to fully own the domain since they recently purchased it. the broker/escrow agent control this which makes it even more difficult for the company to transfer to a new registrar by EOD tomorrow.

I understand that Godaddy is a private business and its clauses may allow it to do this, but this seems extreme overreaction. "24 hours to transfer or else" is a very menacing way of doing business.

-if you were in charge of gab what would you do? create your own payment processor, host, and DNS? they got deplatformed quickly... i guess they could try to get an offshore Hosting company or invest in native hosting.

-what is the most "free speech" friendly DNS provider there is?

-is it fair for internet infrastructure companies to de-platform a small upstart social network because of controversial speech? or should companies like DNS and hosting should be regulated and allow any customer as long as it is lawful content being hosted.

 

[domainguy50]

Twitter has everybody on it, GAB is more right leaning. So why would it stop people from joining. They have a bigger audience.

Twitter is more than a decade old. Gab started 2 years ago. How is that a fair comparison?

You conveniently skipped the part of my earlier post when I said twitter was almost all left leaning users when it started around 2007-2009 time period. It didn't stop right leaning people from joining. Why would the tolerant left not join a free speech network? Zero reason unless they're intolerant of free speech

 

[Internet.Domains]

Twitter has everybody on it, GAB is more right leaning. So why would it stop people from joining. They have a bigger audience.

Out of curiosity, is there a left leaning social media platform, in that case?

 

[JB Lions]

Twitter is more than a decade old. Gab started 2 years ago. How is that a fair comparison?

You conveniently skipped the part of my earlier post showing how twitter was almost all left leaning users when it started around 2007-2009 time period

It wasn't much of a point. Did those early left leaning Twitter users post the kind of content you see on GAB? Were they banned from other places?

 

[JB Lions]

Out of curiosity, is there a left leaning social media platform, in that case?

I have no idea, do you not know how to Google? I'm not the social media platform expert.

 

[domainguy50]

It wasn't much of a point. Did those early left leaning Twitter users post the kind of content you see on GAB?

Twitter probably had more hateful racist posts than gab. Twitter has more racist posts in volume today than gab has. Have you seen what racist messages the left leaning twitter employees condones? Look up "VerifiedHate"

 

[JB Lions]

Twitter probably had more hateful posts than gab. Have you seen what racist messages the left leaning twitter employees condones? Look up "verifiedHate"

I have no idea about Twitter 2008. But today, see pdf above. You're really not making any kind of points, I'm not sure what you're even trying to argue. I guess you're saying GAB is like Twitter in 2008 but right leaning?

 

[Internet.Domains]

I have no idea, do you not know how to Google? I'm not the social media platform expert.

Sure, I can use Google, but I thought I would ask you since you seem to know what your talking about. Now that you mention it, I agree, I best use Google.

 

[.X.]

I don't see anyone bitching about anyone upholding free speech, I think that is a cop-out, I certainly don't give a shit. Say what you like, how you like, but when someone goes radical, like the killer did, and no one steps up to try and stop what happened, that is a problem.

 

[domainguy50]

I have no idea about Twitter 2008. But today, see pdf above.

Look up VerifiedHate to get an idea of the significant amount of violence and blatant racism that twitter and jack dorsey are complicit in condoning. You'll find verified users (Hollywood actors, tech employees from google, writers,Etc) like of all kinds with blatant racism and making death threats against our president. That is a significantly larger problem on the internet than 2% of gab users using a racial slur. You have Verified twitter users with incredible amount of reach online, and they spread vitriol and racist messages. You have don lemon on tv today saying all white men are terrorists. That's what the typical VerifiedHate post on twitter looks like. Please Search Google images or twitter for "VerifiedHate"

 

[Internet.Domains]

I don't see anyone bitching about anyone upholding free speech, I think that is a cop-out, I certainly don't give a sh*t. Say what you like, how you like, but when someone goes radical, like the killer did, and no one steps up to try and stop what happened, that is a problem.

I feel those left leaning and right leaning agree with you. Radicalism is not left or right, just evil.

 

[JB Lions]

Look up VerifiedHate to get an idea what they condone today. You'll find verified users of all kinds with blatant racism. That is a significantly larger problem on the internet than 2% of gab users using a racial slur. You have Verified twitter users with incredible amount of reach online, and they spread vitriol and racist messages. You have don lemon on tv today saying all white men are terrorists. That's what the typical VerifiedHate post on twitter looks like. Please Search Google images or twitter for "VerifiedHate"

What does that have to do with Gab? If you have issues with Twitter, then use the Report button.

 

[.X.]

So, let me ask you this, what is your exact position as you are a member of Gab, to uphold free speech, got that, what about white supremacy or the likes of?? you have posted a few times focused on that. so you can clarify your position??

 

[domainguy50]

What does that have to do with Gab? If you have issues with Twitter, then use the Report button.

I'm point out a hypocritical double standard with you. You ignore thousands and thousands of blatant racism and death threats and calls for violence on by popular twitter users that have significant reach and popularity that dwarfs gab, but 2% of gab users using a slur seems to be a bigger issue to you

I did report sarah jeongs post (all 200+ tweets calling for genocide of white people) as did thousands of other people. She was not suspended. In fact, she was given a verification badge by twitter shortly after (an endorsement of tweets as twitter now says it is ) and she was promoted to the editorial board of new york times.


Actually, I reported most of verified hate posts. None of the users were suspended or revoked their twitter endorsement verified badge. That means twitter endorses blatant anti-white racism, anti-conservative sentiment, and anti-trump death threats

 

[JB Lions]

I'm point out a hypocritical double standard with you.

I did report sarah jeongs post (all 200+ tweets calling for genocide of white people) as did thousands of other people. She was not suspended. In fact, she was given a verification badge by twitter shortly after (an endorsement of tweets as twitter now says it is ) and she was promoted to the editorial board of new york times.

What double standard, I'm not Twitter. You're on a domain forum, this isn't Twitter.

 

[domainguy50]

What double standard, I'm not Twitter. You're on a domain forum, this isn't Twitter.

When did I say you were twitter? You asked elementary-level questions comparing 11 year old twitter to 2 year old gab

The double standard is that you make it seem that its bad that gab has a right leaning user base but it wasn't bad when twitter was mostly left leaning. That makes no sense

 

[.X.]

I think once i said my wife is a fine Black lady. you decided just to ignore my ass. wouldn't you say?

 

[JB Lions]

When did I say you were twitter? You asked elementary-level questions comparing 11 year old twitter to 2 year old gab

The double standard is that it's bad that gab is right wing .

What? Do you know how to use quotes? Actually quote something you disagree with. I didn't say it was good or bad, I pointed out the pdf, I pointed out the top people and said it leaned right. It does. I say they should get hosting that is ok with their stuff, a registrar, payment processing etc. What part do you actually disagree with?

Where is the genocide? - https://twitter.com/sarahjeong

Link to tweet. And if there is a tweet advocating violence, they should take action.

 

[domainguy50]

What? Do you know how to use quotes? Actually quote something you disagree with. I didn't say it was good or bad, I pointed out the pdf, I pointed out the top people and said it leaned right. It does. I say they should get hosting that is ok with their stuff, a registrar, payment processing etc. What part do you actually disagree with?

This site doesn’t let me post links, or edit.

The double standard is that you make it seem that its bad that gab has a right leaning user base but it wasn't bad when twitter was mostly left leaning.then you say there's "racist stuff" on gab but ignore the significantly more and worse racist stuff on Twitter. That makes no sense

 

[JB Lions]

This site doesn’t let me post links, or edit.

The double standard is that you make it seem that its bad that gab has a right leaning user base but it wasn't bad when twitter was mostly left leaning.then you say there's "racist stuff" on gab but ignore the significantly more and worse racist stuff on Twitter. That makes no sense

You can quote, these are quotes " " put something I posted inside of them.

Give me the genocide links. Give me the date, you can do that.

And what do you disagree with in my last post?

 

[domainguy50]

You can quote, these are quotes " " put something I posted inside of them.

Give me the genocide links. Give me the date, you can do that.

The link is in this thread somewhere

 

[JB Lions]

The link is in this thread somewhere

again

You can quote, these are quotes " " put something I posted inside of them.

Give me the genocide links. Give me the date, you can do that.

And what do you disagree with in my last post? Put in quotes where you disagree with me in your next post.

What? Do you know how to use quotes? Actually quote something you disagree with. I didn't say it was good or bad, I pointed out the pdf, I pointed out the top people and said it leaned right. It does. I say they should get hosting that is ok with their stuff, a registrar, payment processing etc. What part do you actually disagree with?

Where is the genocide? - https://twitter.com/sarahjeong

Link to tweet. And if there is a tweet advocating violence, they should take action.

That's all common sense stuff. Where do you disagree? It doesn't lean right? You shouldn't work with companies that are ok with your content? What? How about:

"then you say there's "racist stuff" on gab but ignore the significantly more and worse racist stuff on Twitter. That makes no sense"

I said this:

"And if there is a tweet advocating violence, they should take action."

 

[.X.]

Fuck the bull shit man, Are you in love with David Duke or not?? Simple question, are you a white supremacist???? if so, don't hide behind your hood, If you are not. correct me. simple as that.

 

[.X.]

Google and Apple rejected Gab’s mobile apps from their stores because of hate speech [13] and non-compliance to pornographic content guidelines.

 

[domainguy50]

Google and Apple rejected Gab’s mobile apps from their stores because of hate speech [13] and non-compliance to pornographic content guidelines.

That's an antitrust violation of the Sherman antitrust act. They will let twitter slide but not gab... The funny thing is twitter has significantly more of that content and twitters mods don't take it down

 

[Internet.Domains]

f*ck the bull sh*t man, Are you in love with David Duke or not?? Simple question, are you a white supremacist???? if so, don't hide behind your hood, If you are not. correct me. simple as that.

He has not made any sort of references as your question, or satement, implies. You are showing the double standard, by your words, he has been pointing out. Please keep emotions in check when debating sensitive material.