status-monitor Should NamePros Change the "Edit" 30 Mins Timelimit in the Discussion Area?

[LucidDomains]

I find it quite annoying and I'm sure others do to, that there is only a 30 minute window to edit your posts in the discussion area. I do proof read my posts as much as I can, but I often still find spelling and grammar mistakes, plus other reasons I want to add/remove to existing posts instead of submitting another post.

I'm sure I'm not the only person on here who has been frustrated by the 30 minute window to edit a post.

I would like to see if anyone else feels the same way and if you would like more time to edit, how much time?

Cheers.

 

[Grilled]

There are many good reasons, which is why the poll shows 30 minutes is preferred. One of the most common reasons is that discussions end up getting ruined when member(s) change their posts after a period of time because people trying to read the thread are unable to make sense of what was/is being discussed. There are many notorious instances of this happening where member(s) will go back days later and blank out all of their posts from a thread, change their posts (which changes the context), etc. In our experience, this frustrates members far more than an edit time limit.

I think adding edit history like Facebook does would solve all of this.

If something doesn't make sense, they can refer to the edit. If somebody wants to obfuscate a domain, or misinformation, they can. All in the while members can refer back to the edit log to find hidden gems.

The issue is the content won't be searchable anymore resulting in less traffic from search engines. Said traffic can sometimes be a new members gateway to the forum.

 

[Sanwal]

Obviously given that i'm at the center of a recent post related to this. I would have just hoped it could have been handled on a personal basis by the management for extreme circumstances, which doesn't help either the one who made the mistake or the people reading it. I'm sure everyone makes mistakes and atleast they should be given 1 chance to take it back.

 

[Eric Lyon]

I think adding edit history like Facebook does would solve all of this.

Interesting idea. I wonder if that would be helpful because if someone wants to edit something after 30 minutes, it's usually not a typo/grammar correction and it's usually because they don't want anyone to see it anymore. If we provided the history, then everyone would still be able to see it, but there would be an extra step to see it.

Many issues with allowing longer edit times arise in large threads of 10-100 pages and those threads already take a very long time to read. Imagine how much longer it would take to read those threads if we had to click "View Edit History" on posts.


Thanks for the idea,

 

[shorterwinters]

Per @Eric Lyon There simply isn't a valid reason to remove a user's ability to edit their own content, outside of sales threads where binding offers are made. And even then NP isn't going to foot a legal bill to enforce a winning bid...

If you allow people to go back and edit what they have said you take away all credibility of the forum, plain and simple along with threads becoming jibberish. We all put our foot in our mouths at some time and not just here.

 

[Grilled]

If you allow people to go back and edit what they have said you take away all credibility of the forum,

How so??

 

[shorterwinters]

If you allow people to go back and edit what they have said you take away all credibility of the forum, plain and simple along with threads becoming jibberish. We all put our foot in our mouths at some time and not just here.

How so??

Let's say you and I disagree about something here and I decide to call you an asshole. (we might disagree here but I not calling you and asshole, it's just an example) I say.......
" Grilled doesn't know what he is talking about and he is a stupid fool."
next person comes in and agrees with me.
next posts are from people defending you.
next post is an analogy about me from something else.
next post is a reference to something about you.
next post is from you defending yourself and calling me an asshole and who knows what else.
I go to bed, wake up the next morning and after reading the other posts my mind is changed and I don't think you are an asshole anymore. I edit my post.
Not only do the following posts really not make sense but your left standing there calling me names and my post starting it all is gone. You look like the bad guy to all who come from here on. Yeah, the thread flow changed to jibberish because the post that started it all has been edited, some could figure it out, but the credibility of the forum is gone because I was able to go back and edit my post rather than having to post in the thread why I felt I changed my mind.
That is just one example but it kind of branches off like that and I hope I conveyed what I am thinking to this in a way that makes sense.

with that said and comparing to the edit history of facebook to me it really is just a way for someone to take back what they said and not be accountable for what they have chosen to say.
We don't want to hurt any feelers here, lets let everyone have a chance to take back what they said.
It's still there but you have to go an extra step to see what I said? BS!. Who wants to do that?
I think it takes away the credibility of the forum as well as the poster editing it. Does anyone really think that the postings on facebook are credible?

 

[Grilled]

Let's say you and I disagree about something here and I decide to call you an a*hole. (we might disagree here but I not calling you and a*hole, it's just an example) I say.......
" Grilled doesn't know what he is talking about and he is a stupid fool."
next person comes in and agrees with me.
next posts are from people defending you.
next post is an analogy about me from something else.
next post is a reference to something about you.
next post is from you defending yourself and calling me an a*hole and who knows what else.
I go to bed, wake up the next morning and after reading the other posts my mind is changed and I don't think you are an a*hole anymore. I edit my post.
Not only do the following posts really not make sense but your left standing there calling me names and my post starting it all is gone.

I see your point, however, in that example I believe mods will step in, delete all off topic / unprofessional banter, and issue warnings for rule violations.

1.2. Be professional, tactful, and constructive at all times. Do not harass, threaten, attack, instigate, insult, or antagonize others.

Confusion could come if you call me an arsehole, but edit it within the time limit, and I'm left (a) thinking I'm crazy because I could've sworn you called me an arsehole (b) Upset that you won't get in trouble for violating the rules, even though if I read it, you got your point across. This, of course, could be prevented if there was an edit history, and then mod's would then have an added task of reviewing reported edit history's for violations.

I said some colorful things via PM to an admin here. Immediately edited the PM to 'See edit history for more..." thus no tangible proof existed to the naked eye of 'colorfulness' - but if he/she, being an admin wanted to, he had that ability. Whereas now, in various instances, posts edited within 30 minutes aren't able to detect this type passive aggressive censored content without being an admin or a public edit history.

 

[carob]

A half-joking suggestion: Let posters set a delay on their post.

In other words, you know your post won't be published for 5 minutes. You have time to think about it and proofread it.

You'd need to have a catchy title for this feature to get people to enable it, something like Post Tempering, or Modesty Monitor, or ReThinker, or PostingForDummies, or Self Moderation.

You could even set it to be triggered by alcohol levels.