Seller Advice: Don't Explode!

[ExampleName]

I've gotten some odd offers for domain names in the past. Great names with an offer of $30... then when I decline, they say "WHAT? DON'T YOU WANT TO SELL EVER???"

The flip-side of this is something all of us Domainers need to remember. We shouldn't explode, either.

I got one of those lowball offers a while back, $100 on a 7-letter one-word domain name in a very popular genre. I declined politely instead of asking if he thought I was insane, etc. About a year later I wanted to clear out the domain just to get rid of it, and asked that same person if he could come up a bit.

As a result, I sold the domain for mid $XXX, which was his first offer after getting back in touch.

It pays to keep cool and play nice.

Here's an example of what NOT to do from a user on this very forum. I contacted him about a .com, which he was taking offers on. I said that he'd probably gotten much higher offers, but if he couldn't move it, he might consider my $60.

I knew it was low, but I figured at the end of the day he might just want to get rid of it and there might not be any other takers.

As a result, he counter-offered $75.

I thought this over for a bit... an extra $15 isn't that much, but really I'd made the $60 offer since that's Pool's dropcatch price and is the most I've ever paid for a domain. The one I sold for mid-$XXX was $1 with a coupon code.

However, less than 24 hours later, the seller asks if I'm still interested. Not wanting to leave him waiting longer since he seems anxious, I finally decide and politely decline.

This is the response:

You just message me last night and already declining! You'll be placed online and my friends block lists due to bullshitting and time wasting, and we sell alot of daims. Don't bother replying.

That's a threat, an insult, and profanity.

We can call that "exploding".

Don't do that, folks! XD

Showing poor judgement, I responded politely once again, saying that I was not required to accept his counter-offer. I wanted to tell him off, but instead I *didn't explode* and decided to just inform him I did nothing wrong.

I also noted that I would post his words on the board... essentially as a cautionary tale to not deal with this type of seller... and not to BE this type of seller. You may have noted I haven't mentioned his name or the domain involved.

So...

You didn't say anything about the 75 offer. I was going to do the 60 but no thanks now. You making my reply public will shame you more than it will me because people will no you waste time. They'll knowbjbwibt deal with the time wasters. Good luck

Keep in mind, if someone sends you a low offer or asks for a high price... THAT is how you will look if you explode! If you keep cool, however, you might be able to turn a $1 domain into one worth hundreds of times the price.

 

[The Grinch]

Possibly you could've said: "thanks, but I'm going to have to stick to my max bid of $60" and wait for the reply, instead of giving the seller the impression that you weren't too serious to begin with, essentially wasting their time.

The seller cant reply with a lower price if you give the impression you aren't even interested.

 

[ExampleName]

As I noted in PM, I declined the counter-offer, saying I was not interested. If you'd followed up with "Alright, original offer, then" it would've been an entirely different outcome.

I'm not fond of you saying I wasted your time when I first contacted you late last night (my time), came on again tonight less than a day later, and found the message asking if I was still interested.

As it stands, exploding like that makes me wary of doing a deal, now. Which is why I figured it good to give the unsolicited advice to any newbies out there.

 

[namenetwork]

wow ... I just don't know what to say to anyone Blowing up over offer, refusals etc ... an offer, ANY offer is an indication at least that your sitting on something that other people appreciate and at best is the first step of negotiation (high-low-high-low win-win). Without the offer, ANY offer.

It's just business guy's, if you take it or treat it personal (all in your feelings) you'll make mistakes

 

[alien51]

Human languages carry a lot of emotional baggage.

It's probably best to reduce all the non-essential talk into just numbers.

When i was in China, most people there don't speak English. So when i haggle with a salesman in a department store, we just communicate using calculators. I type my price, he grabs the calculator and presses the clear button, then he types HIS price. I grab the calculator back, and type my altered price. He looks at it, nods his head. Deal is closed.

That's about it.

 

[The Grinch]

wow ... I just don't know what to say to anyone Blowing up over offer, refusals etc ... an offer, ANY offer is an indication at least that your sitting on something that other people appreciate and at best is the first step of negotiation (high-low-high-low win-win). Without the offer, ANY offer, your just masturbating.

It's just business guy's, if you take it or treat it personal (all in your feelings) you'll make mistakes

That's what i told him in PM. I was expecting him to come back with another offer and we'd meet in the middle, but instead he says he's not interested, while in this thread he's appearing as if he was, which is why in the PM I also told him i apologize if he was still interested, and just wasn't using the right wording, which he conveniently didn't post that part of our Convos.

I didn't blow up, I just pretty much told him to go away and stop wasting time.

I'm sure we all had to of deal with people that seemed interested, and then suddenly said they weren't anymore. That's enough to annoy anyone. Usually I just block these types of people without even replying.

But if they come back and still seem interested, but not at that price, then its okay, we can work from there.

As i told him in PM, i wasnt upset, i didnt blow up, i was just annoyed with him, and at work and on my phone so i had to be short and blunt.

I've sold hundreds of domains over the past 10 years on multiple forums, and alot here, without any problems or negative feedback.

This domain will eventually be sold, so i have no reason to blow up at the low price, nor take advice over this situation. No need to discuss anything with anyone who isnt interested at all, and if you are, then make it clear that you are.

I think alot of this was just miscommunication, but making it public was kinda dramaqueenish, but he didnt use names, so its not that bad :P

You shouldn't really expect anyone with my username to be sweet and kind anyways :D teasing.

 

[CKDomains]

Hypocrit

Not trying do be a dick. But only quoting one side of the conversation is extremly hipocrit. If you expose someone else honor demands you expose yourself to. But the internet is not a place to find honor =)
(i'm not affiliated with any of the persons in question)

 

[snowbird]

I can understand making your original post and keeping things anonymous to help other members. But the rest of this thread is becoming quite heated and is regarding an affair that should be discussed in private and not made public. I would strongly advise you both take this into private discussion before this thread turns into a drama that makes the both of you look unprofessional.

 

[GiftedDomains]

Human languages carry a lot of emotional baggage.

It's probably best to reduce all the non-essential talk into just numbers.

When i was in China, most people there don't speak English. So when i haggle with a salesman in a department store, we just communicate using calculators. I type my price, he grabs the calculator and presses the clear button, then he types HIS price. I grab the calculator back, and type my altered price. He looks at it, nods his head. Deal is closed.

That's about it.

you can be sure that the chinese guy made the better deal, but gave you the impression that you won. thats how it works there (and in many other places :D )

anyway, the exploding type of buyer would grab the calculator, press the clear button and smash the calculator on the chinese guys head if he should type too much. end of deal.?

 

[alien51]

the exploding type of buyer would grab the calculator, press the clear button and smash the calculator on the chinese guys head

Why do you have to press the clear button first ?!?

 

[Name Trader]

Human languages carry a lot of emotional baggage.

It's probably best to reduce all the non-essential talk into just numbers.

When i was in China, most people there don't speak English. So when i haggle with a salesman in a department store, we just communicate using calculators. I type my price, he grabs the calculator and presses the clear button, then he types HIS price. I grab the calculator back, and type my altered price. He looks at it, nods his head. Deal is closed.

That's about it.

As GiftedDomains said. You paid too much. You need 3-5 offers on the calculator before you know you got a deal. Which includes (drama) walking away at least once. An alien in an alien land Why did you go first with the price in a department store?

 

[alien51]

I guess cultural differences between species, can be quite intimidating especially if done face to face, rather than thru email exchanges.

.... and also, a crowd was already gathering, and i didn't want to get mauled. lol

 

[ExampleName]

Not trying do be a dick. But only quoting one side of the conversation is extremly hipocrit. If you expose someone else honor demands you expose yourself to. But the internet is not a place to find honor =)
(i'm not affiliated with any of the persons in question)

I didn't save outgoing messages, so that wouldn't be possible.

I can understand making your original post and keeping things anonymous to help other members. But the rest of this thread is becoming quite heated and is regarding an affair that should be discussed in private and not made public. I would strongly advise you both take this into private discussion before this thread turns into a drama that makes the both of you look unprofessional.

I don't understand this. It wasn't really heated at all... Plus we were done talking before your response...?


Here's a rose for everyone to calm any sore nerves: ~~;@

XD

 

[snowbird]

I didn't save outgoing messages, so that wouldn't be possible.



I don't understand this. It wasn't really heated at all... Plus we were done talking before your response...?


Here's a rose for everyone to calm any sore nerves: ~~;@

XD

I was going to say something but I decided not to. :P