[REQ-LOGO] Jokepants(.com) - Jokes Website - Logo Needed

[JacksonProductions]

[REQ-LOGO] Jokepants(.com) - Jokes Website - Logo Needed - 50$

Hi fellow NamePros,

This is my first design contest here, I hope to get some good designs!
Show me your talent and win
The Jokepants website will allow users to submit a joke and others can vote it up.
Main goal is to provide a website with only quality jokes and give people the opportunity to get there jokes rated and commented.

Type of Contest : LOGO Design
Prize : $50.00
Contest End Date & Time : 8 October 09
Size Requirements : Vector based logo
Color Requirements : No specific color requirements
General Requirements : Must be funny and attractive, yet simple.
Additional Information : Logo has to be catchy and funny, vector based and high quality. Might be a cool idea to add some kind of mascot to the logo, just be creative!

I'm looking forward to your submissions.
Good luck!

 

[Erdy]

Hi Jackson,

One month for a contest is too long especially considering that in the sticky thread in this forum section it says contests should be maximum 10 days long.
I will pass on this one but I'm sure others will soon enter. Cheers. Erdinc

 

[JacksonProductions]

Okay thanks for the comment Erdinc, I've changed the date to 8 October 09
Now let's get them designs coming!

 

[JacksonProductions]

Prize increased to $50.00 !!

 

[Eric Lyon]

Here's a concept idea
To get the contest started



Feedback appreciated​

 

[JacksonProductions]

Hahahaa!
Thanks scorpion agency for the hilarious entry!

Some feedback suggestions:
I've taken a look at your other logo designs and found the "netbuddy" logo really beatifull.
Could you create something similar but this time maybe with a Pants on the guys head?
Just an idea Also if you could get rid of the web 2.0 flow through the text/try different fonts.
I'm not sure about colours either, but i'm going to start working on the webdesign this afternoon so I'll let you know which colors would fit best!
Great work, and I hope to see some more quality logo's like this one!

 

[JacksonProductions]

Just finnished the (beta) webdesign.
Fitting colors would be red and blue offcourse, maybe some yellow..
Feel free to try some things out!..

 

[Eric Lyon]

Reworked concept
Thanks for the feedback, I Illustrated a guy with pants on his head coming out of a circle



Feedback appreciated​

 

[JacksonProductions]

Thanks ScorpionAgency!
That's exactly what I meant.. Great job!
Some minnor things which could make it even better:
Take a look at "ancitis" logo for netbuddy: http://www.namepros.com/design-contests/611331-req-logo-webhosting-buddy.html
I'd like the Jokepants logo to have a similar glow in the (background) yellow.
(make the yellow a bit more orange maybe #ffd203 and then with the (white/yellow) glow, that's going to be magnificent).
I'd also want a design of the full pantsguy. (full body)
But since his pants is on his head, he'll have underpants on (white with red harts/dots).
And maybe draw him with a thumb up and a similar smile.
That would look perfect!

&I'd like to see some other designers entering the copetition I'm sure others have great ideas/logos as well.
But remember you'll have to do your very best to beat ScorpionAgency!!
Good luck.


EDIT: ScorpionAgency, I've used your pantsguy logo concept and added it into the webdesign, to see how it would look.
After some webdesign changes it became this:
http://www.jacksonproductions.net/jokepants.com/img/web-sa.jpg
Looks good, doesn't it?

 

[Eric Lyon]

Thanks ScorpionAgency!
That's exactly what I meant.. Great job!
Some minnor things which could make it even better:
Take a look at "ancitis" logo for netbuddy: http://www.namepros.com/design-contests/611331-req-logo-webhosting-buddy.html
I'd like the Jokepants logo to have a similar glow in the (background) yellow.
(make the yellow a bit more orange maybe #ffd203 and then with the (white/yellow) glow, that's going to be magnificent).
I'd also want a design of the full pantsguy. (full body)
But since his pants is on his head, he'll have underpants on (white with red harts/dots).
And maybe draw him with a thumb up and a similar smile.
That would look perfect!

&I'd like to see some other designers entering the copetition I'm sure others have great ideas/logos as well.
But remember you'll have to do your very best to beat ScorpionAgency!!
Good luck.


EDIT: ScorpionAgency, I've used your pantsguy logo concept and added it into the webdesign, to see how it would look.
After some webdesign changes it became this:
http://www.jacksonproductions.net/jokepants.com/img/web-sa.jpg
Looks good, doesn't it?

Thanks for the feedback, I'm primarily a vector designer, so I must let you know that if I was to use a filter effect / multi-color fade to create the orange/yellow/white background you pointed out, that that layer would become embedded as a solid raster in the rendering process of the master files.

I normally like to keep everything vector so that it can easily be scaled up or down without any lose of quality (at least in the software for rendering purposes). With that in mind, if you still wish for the orange/yellow background, I'll revise it for you. I just felt that you should know that prior to any changes as it will effect what can be done with it in the future.

Let me know

 

[ancitis]

What are you talking about scorpionagency? You want to tell me, that any of my designs having gradients (or faked gradients) can't be easily scaled up or down without any lose of quality? I'm sorry - that's bullsh*t. If you're not very competent in these things you shouldn't make anything up just to make the others look not that professional and you as the only one knowing how this all works. Actually you are backbiting me now. And I don't find it neither funny nor good!

To CH:

You've stated all the things you want scorpionagency to do with his logo saying that it will make it perfect. Does that mean other ideas for the mascot wouldn't make you happy or you are open to different visualisations as well?

 

[JacksonProductions]

Thanks for the feedback, I'm primarily a vector designer, so I must let you know that if I was to use a filter effect / multi-color fade to create the orange/yellow/white background you pointed out, that that layer would become embedded as a solid raster in the rendering process of the master files.

I normally like to keep everything vector so that it can easily be scaled up or down without any lose of quality (at least in the software for rendering purposes). With that in mind, if you still wish for the orange/yellow background, I'll revise it for you. I just felt that you should know that prior to any changes as it will effect what can be done with it in the future.

Let me know

Okay, it's not a problem if you leave it out.
ancitis seems to have found a way to do it though..
You might want to ask him how
Anyway it's a small thing don't worry to much about it.
&I'd really like to see the full body pantsguy! :blink:

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What are you talking about scorpionagency? You want to tell me, that any of my designs having gradients (or faked gradients) can't be easily scaled up or down without any lose of quality? I'm sorry - that's bullsh*t. If you're not very competent in these things you shouldn't make anything up just to make the others look not that professional and you as the only one knowing how this all works. Actually you are backbiting me now. And I don't find it neither funny nor good!

To CH:

You've stated all the things you want scorpionagency to do with his logo saying that it will make it perfect. Does that mean other ideas for the mascot wouldn't make you happy or you are open to different visualisations as well?

Hi ancitis,
Calm down..
ScorpionAgency isn't backbiting you!
He's just poiting out what he thinks is true.
If you found a way to do it, why don't you just tell him it is possible in a kind way?
He doesn't want to make you look unprofessional.
Think positive my friend!

And.. I sure am open to different logos/mascots!!
Send me your best concept and I'll let you know what I think!
I've seen some of your other work and was impressed, you have real talent.
It would be great to see yours/others designs in here as well.

Remember this is an open competition, everyone can post!
(But since Scorpion Agency already posted a brilliant logo, you'll have to do you very best )

 

[Eric Lyon]

Revised concept & full body
Ok, I went ahead and used some raster gradients to make the background pop a little more & did a full body of the mascot.



Feedback Appreciated​

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What are you talking about scorpionagency? You want to tell me, that any of my designs having gradients (or faked gradients) can't be easily scaled up or down without any lose of quality? I'm sorry - that's bullsh*t. If you're not very competent in these things you shouldn't make anything up just to make the others look not that professional and you as the only one knowing how this all works. Actually you are backbiting me now. And I don't find it neither funny nor good!

To CH:

You've stated all the things you want scorpionagency to do with his logo saying that it will make it perfect. Does that mean other ideas for the mascot wouldn't make you happy or you are open to different visualisations as well?

Time to calm down, as we all know, a raster & a vector are 2 different things & that rasters use pixle dots & vectors us mathematical lines/paths, when you use a gradient / filter / etc. it converts to a raster in the rendering process, it's not a vector, it CAN be scaled in the software it was originally made in & sometimes wont loss much quality, however, rasters are NOT fully scalable, this is common knowledge.

Nobody attacked you & nobody said your work was bad or that you didn't have ethics, you took it upon yourself to assume that. All I was doing is explaining that rasters are NOT fully scalable like a 100% vector is & I think we all already know that anyways.

Here's a couple articles about the difference between raster & vector for the CH (No need to take my word for it):

Raster vs Vector | NW-Media
What is the difference between raster and vector data? - eXtension

There are thousands more related articles on the net.

ancitis, you are truly a great designer & that was never in question. So please try to calm down & conduct yourself professionally. Thanks

 

[JacksonProductions]

@ScorpionAgency
Bwahahahaaaa!!
Thats hilarious, I mean look at him hahhaaa!!!!
Man that's brilliant!
Now some suggestions:
----LOGO----
I'll need the Logo in 100% vector, but would like to use the gradient/rasterd one, for the website.
Gradient looks nice, should be a bit more yellowish though..
----FULL CHARACTER----
It's hilarious already!
But if you could redraw the head a bit so it better fits the body and isn't identical to the logo that would be even better.
His thumb is huge, which is funny, but maybe a little to big.. Smae goes for his thoes/feet.
Also in the Logo he's waering a red shirt, in the mascot a yellow. Change this please.
I'm not sure about the "I got jokes &logo" on his shirt. I'll think of something better and let you know!
Keep up the good work.


Other designers can still submit there work, if you think you can do better... prove it!

Thanks!

 

[Erdy]

I agree with ancitis on this one. There is no such thing as loss of quality in ancitis designs or mine. They can be enlarged unlimitedly as they are vector shapes. Having gradients in vectors does not make them any less vector.

Scorpio I don't understand what you are saying. Maybe you are doing something the wrong way or you are using the wrong program or you are not delivering a vector format to the client.

Here is an example:
Below are two boxes at 40 by 40 pixel size. Both have a gradient and a shine effect applied. The box on the left is a vector shape inside illustrator while the box on the right is a rasterized flat image inside illustrator. Of course what you see here is a normal gif image saved from illustrator.

They both appear fine at this size. Now lets enlarge them 20 times:
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9784/46247645.gif

As you can see the vector box still is crystal clear as expected. It scaled perfectly. As for the other shape (rasterized image) of course it doesn't scale well but why would anybody raster a vector shape anyway. It doesn't make any sense.

Result: Vector shapes can have gradients and they will scale up unlimitedly without any loss of quality.

Scorpio I don't believe you would raster a vector shape inside illustrator. This would be too wrong. Either you are using another program that doesn't have the capabilities illustrator has or you are not delivering vector format to the client.

 

[Eric Lyon]

revised concept
Made thumb & toes smaller, made shirt red, changed shirt text, re-sketched & illustrated the head, added more white to the logo.



Feedback appreciated​

---------- Post added at 03:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:38 PM ----------

I agree with ancitis on this one. There is no such thing as loss of quality in ancitis designs or mine. They can be enlarged unlimitedly as they are vector shapes. Having gradients in vectors does not make them any less vector.

Scorpio I don't understand what you are saying. Maybe you are doing something the wrong way or you are using the wrong program or you are not delivering a vector format to the client.

Here is an example:
Below are two boxes at 40 by 40 pixel size. Both have a gradient and a shine effect applied. The box on the left is a vector shape inside illustrator while the box on the right is a rasterized flat image inside illustrator. Of course what you see here is a normal gif image saved from illustrator.

They both appear fine at this size. Now lets enlarge them 20 times:
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9784/46247645.gif

As you can see the vector box still is crystal clear as expected. It scaled perfectly. As for the other shape (rasterized image) of course it doesn't scale well but why would anybody raster a vector shape anyway. It doesn't make any sense.

Result: Vector shapes can have gradients and they will scale up unlimitedly without any loss of quality.

Scorpio I don't believe you would raster a vector shape inside illustrator. This would be too wrong. Either you are using another program that doesn't have the capabilities illustrator has or you are not delivering vector format to the client.

Obviously we are saying the same thing in different words, however I Provide Cdr / Ai / Dpa / Svg / CAD / Eps / Wmf / Pdf & More layered vector formats to insure compatibility with any software a client may have. Whilst i agree if you keep an AI file with Adobe illustrator that the filter will upscale, but as soon as you convert that .ai file to Cdr / Svg / Wmf / Psp / Dpa / CAD etc, your filter becomes imbeded as a solid raster. (I also convert vector layers to a fully layered .Psd raster file for photoshop, but that's a different story)

I guess I assumed others here did cross platform conversions for client compatibility rather than limiting them to Only adobe software's,I apologize for the confusion. I am referring to cross platform conversions of a vector file so that it can retain all 100% lines paths no matter what software the client uses.

As i've been converting cross platform vectors for many years now, I do know that filters become rasters during the conversion.

Note: there are some software's that will render in to adobe .Ai & retain most the values, however, this is not always the case when trying to render from adobe to other odd ball vector software formats

At the end of the day, as long as the way we each do things produces the desired results & software compatibility the client needs, that's all that counts

 

[Erdy]

I see what you mean. You are actually correct about effects like glow, feather or drop shadow. They will not export as vector shapes for instance from illustrator to photoshop. Therefore I recreate them in photoshop. I think psd and ai formats are enough for clients. Those two formats will cover any print or web usage. They will use only the psd anyway. Maybe some clients will give the ai file to another designer for changes.

Good design by the way. I should buy a tablet and practice sketching too. Cheers. Erdinc

 

[Eric Lyon]

I see what you mean. You are actually correct about effects like glow, feather or drop shadow. They will not export as vector shapes for instance from illustrator to photoshop. Therefore I recreate them in photoshop. I think psd and ai formats are enough for clients. Those two formats will cover any print or web usage. They will use only the psd anyway. Maybe some clients will give the ai file to another designer for changes.

Good design by the way. I should buy a tablet and practice sketching too. Cheers. Erdinc

Thanks, & whilst I agree that .Psd & .Ai should be all a client needs simply because the formats have become the industry standard due to the large number of users of Photoshop & illustrator. I can't assume that each CH / client owns Adobe Illustrator or an adobe product that can open a layered .ai file. I've actually found that over 35% of my clients don't own an adobe software at all. Some are pure opensource software users & others refuse to support adobe as a monopoly & stick with the smaller companies to try & help them compete. If I limited myself to adobe only deliveries, I would also lose that 35% of business, which to me is a large enough percentage to drastically effect my bottom line (yearly revenue)

as for getting a graphics tablet, i think you'll fall in love with it after the initial 2-4 weeks adjusting to it. What i did was bought a very cost effective one to learn on before investing in a larger name brand. just to make sure that it was a good fit for me & get used to, it also allowed it to pay for itself & an upgrade. I started with the genius G-pen 340 3"x4" travel size for only $39.99, it was cost effective & didn't put me out of pocket too much in case I decided tablets weren't for me.

Low & behold several years later a tablet has become one of my primary tools used daily & now I don't see how anyone manages without one, for the freehand convenience aspects of course. :cy:

 

[JacksonProductions]

revised concept
Made thumb & toes smaller, made shirt red, changed shirt text, re-sketched & illustrated the head, added more white to the logo.



Feedback appreciated​

Thanks ScorpionAgency for the fast revision!
It looks absolutely hilarious!
Some tinny suggestions:
----LOGO----
You must have miss read, I wanted it to have more yellow/orange color. (not white)
And you seem to have made the glow circle larger, it was better the first time.
Other then that great work!
----FULL CHARACTER----
Exactly what I asked for!
His right shoulder looks strange though, maybe change that a bit.
And don't add text to his shirt. (I'll add it myself if needed )
Also pantsguy's heels are a bit to long. (and I don't think they should touch..)

Congratulations on the work/designing, it's amazing!!
I'm goind to keep the contest open until 8th of october, so others get an honest chance to enter the contest as well.
But as I already said they'll have to do there very best to win from you!!

 

[ancitis]

Ok. Here I go with my try.
Not that finished yet considering you already have your most favourite entry.

Scorp: Don't you think you kinda in an obvious way lead the CH think that you can't easily scale up or down a logo with a gradient color in it without any lose of quality? You could just ask if any of the Cdr / Svg / Wmf / Psp / Dpa / CAD file types will be needed/used later and then just consider if a gradient in this case is available or not.
You're a wise and clever man but this just didn't seem quite right.
Anyway - all good. Cheers.