discuss Remove domain from marketplaces before listing on NamePros!

[NickB]

Guys and Girls before you submit an auction on Namepros can you have the decency to remove your domain from all other marketplaces......

I see it all the time where there is an auction thread on here and the OP has the name listed everywhere else at the same time.

I am pretty sure some people inflate their Sedo, DAN, Epik, Afternic (etc etc) prices to try and lure in unsuspecting bidders/buyers.......

Do the right thing and remove your name and make the auction exclusive to Namepros.....

Also, If you sell a name on Namepros via make offer or BIN, remove it from all market places after the transaction has been completed....

Not hard to do.......

 

[hawkeye]

Unless there is a rule here on NP that once you 'list' a domain on auction here you 'must' instantly de-list it on all other platforms, this all is a moot subject.

 

[Name Trader]

So if a person intentionally starts an auction and leaves BIN and make offers on other marketplaces what is your view?

I think I just answered that above

 

[NickB]

Unless there is a rule here on NP that once you 'list' a domain on auction here you 'must' instantly de-list it on all other platforms, this all is a moot subject.

How is being ethical in sales a "moot" point?

I'm home now - will check and get back to you....

 

[hawkeye]

How is being ethical in sales a "moot" point?

Better yet, how is it 'unethical' to not de-list from other places?

 

[HotKey]

Uh huh. And there it is too. Common sense requires rules, apparently, else we miss it.

You guys should start a club..

no-commitments.com (it's got a dash, apparently an upswing. Don't forget to tell the buyer he might not win, it's being listed in multiple platforms))

 

[hawkeye]

Uh huh. And there it is too. Common sense requires rules, apparently, else we miss it.

Uhh yeah!, because in the global world, not everyone abides by the same 'common sense'!! That is why places have rules!!

 

[bulkdomainz]

As long as you remove any BIN prices on other sites, honour the auction win on here, and remove the listings from other marketplaces after getting paid here, I don't see a problem!

 

[Name Trader]

Thanks for the input,

Afternic is not my sole focus just mentioned the first marketplace that sprang to mind as it has the option of BIN pricing, the same could be said for Sedo, Dan, Epik, Efty lander etc etc etc

Any sale on any marketplace when a domain is in auction in NP's is a major infraction of NPs rules. And should be dealt with accordingly. Does that make it clearer I wasn't singling out Afternic either. It was the first name that came into my head Haven't you read the rules yet? You should.

 

[NickB]

Pretty clear cut to me........

"The domain must be for sale exclusively on NamePros as a Domain Auction."

@hawkeye are we really going to split hairs here and debate morality?

It's nearly 11pm here in the UK and to late for me to start going that road (not that I have the intellect to pursue it in any case)

So if it is not allowed and my original request was for people to remove their other listings does it not seem like a simple request?

 

[Name Trader]

As long as you remove any BIN prices on other sites, honour the auction win on here, and remove the listings from other marketplaces after getting paid here, I don't see a problem!

The problem with a BIN is it can be activated at any time, like during an auction. Kaput goes the auction. Major problem.

 

[NickB]

Any sale on any marketplace when a domain is in auction in NP's is a major infraction of NPs rules. And should be dealt with accordingly. Does that make it clearer I wasn't singling out Afternic either. It was the first name that came into my head Haven't you read the rules yet?

Just did

My very first post was a request and the thread turned into the monster it is

 

[boker]

Uh huh. And there it is too. Common sense requires rules, apparently, else we miss it.

You guys should start a club..

no-commitments.com (it's got a dash, apparently an upswing. Don't forget to tell the buyer he might not win, it's being listed in multiple platforms))

You are old enough on this forum to know about the rules and issues regarding these stuff. For example, at all major brandable marketplace if you delist names, your account will be in bad standing and can't buy names anymore. So, the choice will be to loose your good standing account with them or to list them like this and risk an infraction point from namepros. If I'm not wrong, couple of years ago one of BB brand ambassadors had an issue like this and the conclusion was that they can't force people to loose their good standing account, but should say something in the description that they will give a percentage if it sells, a fix amount or at least to make them aware. As a result, he didn't sold anymore BB domains here for years and this will be the road for 99% of the sellers.

 

[Name Trader]

Pretty clear cut to me........

"The domain must be for sale exclusively on NamePros as a Domain Auction."

Nope. It shouldn't be listed at BIN anywhere. See my reply above to @bulkdomainz

 

[bulkdomainz]

The problem with a BIN is it can be activated at any time, like during an auction. Kaput goes the auction. Major problem.

The BINS need to be removed before you start an auction here to prevent any BIN whilst the name is in auction here. Not fair to take a name from an auction winner.

 

[Name Trader]

The BINS need to be removed before you start an auction here to prevent any BIN whilst the name is in auction here. Not fair to take a name from an auction winner.

Correct

 

[Bob Hawkes]

I don't see this as specifically a NamePros issue but totally agree with @NickB point that if you have a name in auction anywhere the name should not be listed with a BIN anywhere else. There should be zero possibility that the name could be purchased outside the auction in the middle of the auction. I am amazed that some long term domain investors do not agree with the OP view on this. Does this ever get done by accident? Sure, and life happens. But no one should deliberately leave a name at a BIN on a major marketplace while listing it in auction here or anywhere else.

If the name is listed elsewhere, but as Make Offer, there is probably not a problem as long as the auction has priority (i.e. if you get an offer respond that you can not accept or counter, and once it is clear that the name will sell by auction it should be taken down from Make Offer too).

On the separate point about listings, I don't think that we can insist that an owner track down every last old listing someone that does not own the domain name has up somewhere. It is an issue that the marketplaces need to do a better job of validating ownership and delisting when names change registrar or owner.

Bob

 

[boker]

I don't see this as specifically a NamePros issue but totally agree with @NickB point that if you have a name in auction anywhere the name should not be listed with a BIN anywhere else. There should be zero possibility that the name could be purchased outside the auction in the middle of the auction. I am amazed that some long term domain investors do not agree with the OP view on this. Does this ever get done by accident? Sure, and life happens. But no one should deliberately leave a name at a BIN on a major marketplace while listing it in auction here or anywhere else.

If the name is listed elsewhere, but as Make Offer, there is probably not a problem as long as the auction has priority (i.e. if you get an offer respond that you can not accept or counter, and once it is clear that the name will sell by auction it should be taken down from Make Offer too).

On the separate point about listings, I don't think that we can insist that an owner track down every last old listing someone that does not own the domain name has up somewhere. It is an issue that the marketplaces need to do a better job of validating ownership and delisting when names change registrar or owner.

Bob

I agree that theoretically sounds good, but I have a few years listing domains everywhere and maybe you can put your ideas to work. So, we have BB, BP, SH as dominating the brandable markeplaces, with over 100k domains listed between them. If you are trying to delist some domains, your account will be in bad standing and you will be cut from most facilities, including buying listed names. If you check namepros marketplace, the auction is predominated by brandables names. So, can you find a solution so that the seller will not loose his good standing account and that the buyers will have exclusive rights to the auction? In the perfect world, nobody will sell listed domains anymore(killing namepros brandable marketplace) or you sell one time and loose your account in good standing. We had these stuff for years, so maybe you can make everybody happy with a great idea.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Do not the (main) brandable marketplaces require exclusivity so that listing in an auction here is contrary to ToS? I had never thought about that before, and like you say daily we see such listed domain names. Do they have an exclusion that allows it? Just asking (I use Sedo, DAN, Afternic and various registrar marketplaces, my response was listed in terms of them).

"When you become a seller, you are electing to make your domain names available exclusively on our Marketplace, and will remove any listings for your domain names elsewhere."​

 

[boker]

Do not the (main) brandable marketplaces require exclusivity so that listing in an auction here is contrary to ToS? I had never thought about that before, and like you say daily we see such listed domain names. Do they have an exclusion that allow it? Just asking (I use Sedo, DAN, Afternic and various registrar marketplaces, my response was listed in terms of them).

"When you become a seller, you are electing to make your domain names available exclusively on our Marketplace, and will remove any listings for your domain names elsewhere."​

End user marketplace exclusivity, you can still sell them to resellers, as long as they remain listed.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

End user marketplace exclusivity, you can still sell them to resellers, as long as they remain listed.

Thanks. Does it say that somewhere in writing (I could not find it in a quick look at their ToS), or is it just an understanding? Perhaps it is the definition of what listing means. I mean transfers to another seller are allowed, but what about putting the name up for auction in a place anyone could see, like here?

Are they really fine with the possibility that a domain name sells on their marketplace on Tuesday, the same day the name is in auction here, and the buyer looks on Wednesday and see the name they paid $$$$ for went for $$, or worse the person here for whatever reason refuses to keep it listed at the brandable place so that either the auction here or the sale there one must fail.

Bob