.mobi Registrar releases pdf for mobile internet

[newdomainer.mobi]

On the back of the Ries report link that I posted here last week, I thought that this release from mTLD would be of interest to some of you guys... simply as a basis for debate or for some thought... Many of the regulars here are cynical as to what mTLD are actually doing with the reg fee cash that keeps flowing into their coffers & this little pdf spells it out well.

This is not an inflammatory post; it is simply a link from the mTLD people.. I hope that you will find this interesting reading.


http://www.mobithinking.com/tenmistakes/?MPU


Please don't sully this thread with arguing about dotmobi this, that or the other... PM me if you have an issue....

Thank you.

Gary

 

[Jeff]

Unbrandable.

no, we cant agree on any of that.

You're now excusing them ... for abandoning the RFP process and other broken promises?

and as a TLD, .mobi has no active competitors..

That's because there is no need for the extension ... why would others foray into something that's entirely unnecessary, and some would argue now obsolete (given the emerging mobile technologies that are - and have been - coming online in the already established .COM space, IMHO)? :blink:

Surely we can agree, then, that the four-lettered, two-syllabled ".mobi" is extremely unnatural, and will be very VERY DIFFICULT to brand effectively (which is likely why both corporations and End users are not adopting to it, even to this day)? :red:
IYHO.

Good discussion, thanks for the input.
-Jeff

 

[mjnels]

its easy to get yourself lost in the details isnt it.


hi,
my name is matt and im a newbie to domains and i didnt lose money on dotmobi and i own and hand registered hundreds of them.

 

[Jeff]

Broken promises!

its easy to get yourself lost in the details isnt it.

I think you've missed the point ... and the details of the originally prescribed RFP's (the ones that were discussed here - and embraced - at length in 2006) - those details have been summarily deleted since from the mTLD website! :o

I trust that this will satisfactorily balance any additional hype - such as posted above and included the Ries report - from the greedy, and still floundering mTLD and "dot Mobey", IMHO. :gl:
Tick. Tock.

See you soon.
-Jeff

 

[mjnels]

wow, they are trying something other than their original plan... how horrible and evil.

 

[coast]

Of course, we're not discussing or comparing any other extensions here today ... but with regard to critical developments of the once highly touted AND VERY IMPORTANT "ecosystem" and RFP process ... how do you feel about mTLD's broken promises and failure to enforce mandated development requirements?

Why are GENERIC "premium" (not ™) domains still languishing ... even after they were supposedly "sold" at one time?!?

Are there specific generic names that you have in mind?

How do I feel about enforcements about mandated development requirements.. well, personally I don't have a problem with the development delays given the fact that all of the pieces of the puzzle take time to fit together. Traditional design tactics don't work for this non-traditional new media, and if you will notice there are a lot of patents being filed today for the kind of technology innovations that will make .mobi sites even better.

I know enforcement is being worked on behind the scenes and those involved are looking toward regulations and enforcement that are reasonable. For example, taking a site down does not afford the developer the opportunity to fix the site if the server is inaccessible.

Many of the original people are not there anymore, and I think it is reasonable to let the team that is in place now have some time to determine the best course of action. I've met several mTLD execs and found them to be down to earth, reasonable people who want to ensure the long term success of the tld and put procedures in place that make sense. They also listen to what portfolio holders have to say. I would like to see improvements to the RFP process as well, and I believe we will see improvements in that area in the coming year.

Honestly, Jeff, have some patience. I'd rather see mtld take a bit more time and make good decisions than benefit us in the long run than have them feel rushed because they are being pressured by investors interested in a quick flip.

 

[newdomainer.mobi]

I seem to have missed out on the fun... or is Jeff is allowed back into the mobi pastures for some light grazing these days?

I would like to suggest that Jeff, respectfully is simply playing devils advocate - the mobile internet is something new... it is being held back by the Telco's because of the upset it will cause to their current business models.

Now, the Ries report was just a home video report from some marketing guy in the US.. not going to affect the world stage... but I have to say that I reckon that many of the points raised will come to pass.
I think that we may yet see born a new media tool as similar to the WWW as magazines are to books - the same but very different.

I would like to accept Jeffs point but only if considered in a far wider context... the vast majority of domains in every single extension are like warehouses full of army surplus... They will never see action!

Most domains are worthless... even if they ought to have value; most (at present) go unused or underused... very few make a decent buck.

Bearing that in mind, dotmobi is bound to be similar..

So, as we know that Jeff has only a few dotmobi names, I'd like to pose a question for him; -

In the last 2 - 3 years can he tell us how many domains he has regged himself?
How many names has he purchased in the past 2- 3 years on the after market?
How many names has he developed or paid to have developed?
How many of those names are bringing in the bacon?

Maybe some answers to these questions will give us some indication of how much of an impact jeffs work has on the lives of internet users; I may well be humbled by his answers, I may be suitably impressed by his works.... & indeed I may be given cause to listen more to what he has to say...

However, failing that; all we are left with are the ramblings of one man & his dog named "Ego".

Opinions only count when they are the opinions of those we respect... Jeff has the persona of Charlie from Charlies Angels; we don't know who he is but we are led to believe he is a 'somebody' - we understand that he seems to know a lot about the industry & we feel that we should extend him some respect for that... but until we know who he is (even if that's not name, rank & number) we cannot continue to be an audience for his conspiracy theories re; mTLD et al...

I hope I am understood for asking poignant questions rather than trying any character asassination (which is not my aim)... I want to come away from this feeling that I know more about Jeff, what / who he is... I want to respect the guy; he has posted tirelessly about the whole dotmobi thing... so he is clearly very passionate about it..

So Jeff, how about it... ? If you want to PM me that's cool.... if you want me to swear to some degree of confidentiality; that's cool too.. but you post as someone with knowledge, with certainty & with a lot of authority on the subject.. which may be premature as I certainly haven't a clue where the mobilenet is headed over the next 5 years & beyond..

A reply would be appreciated... discretion assured!

Gary

 

[acc]

This thread was started by the OP to introduce the community to a fine example of the serious effort that the dotMobi group is putting forth every day to build the extension and contribute to the development of the mobile web.

Coast - It is not us name investors that are anxious and pressuring - it is a just very few selected perennial naysayers with NO evident stake in the extension that jump on every mention of .mobi to reregurgitate their hand-wringing and slanderous postings about mTLD. It is a shame.

And you are right - drops happen every day with names from EVERY EXTENSION.

No matter how many times it is explained that initial RFP process (for just four names) was just one of SEVERAL possible methods of distributing the 5000+ premium names held back by mTLD - some people just don't get it or REFUSE to acknowledge it.

mTLD is a registry with a plan. It will adapt as needed and enforce and adjust policies as it sees fit taking many factors into consideration. And the funds garnered through backers, registration fees, premium auctions, and other offerings are being used to build out the extension and support developers. It is not "greed" to sell your product into the marketplace. It is business. It is not "hype" to issue press releases and advertise your products and services. It is business.

Gary - Since the beginning it ... for some it has gone far beyond playing devil's advocate as you politely suggest. Those naysayers who either can't or refuse to recognize or acknowledge the major effort being put forth by dotMobi are either ignorant or lacking in business acumen. IMHO. What else could explain their persistence, insistence, and resistance to everything dotMobi? The constant parroting that .mobi is somehow "unbrandable" is evidence of a lack of knowledge of branding or marketing. Let me pre-empt the canned response ... That also is not character assasination - it is an observation and my IMHO.

What other extension registry in the world has shown ANY semblence of this type of commitment? NONE!. The developer tools keep coming and keep getting better. The reachout to the .mobi name investors and mobile developers keeps growing. New workshops have just been announced for New York, San Francisco, and London. We are only less than two years into this and .Mobi is progressing nicely. The slew of good news keeps coming.

.

 

[newdomainer.mobi]

This thread was started by the OP to introduce the community to a fine example of the serious effort that the dotMobi group is putting forth every day to build the extension and contribute to the development of the mobile web.

Coast - It is not us name investors that are anxious and pressuring - it is a just very few selected perennial naysayers with NO evident stake in the extension that jump on every mention of .mobi to reregurgitate their hand-wringing and slanderous postings about mTLD. It is a shame.

And you are right - drops happen every day with names from EVERY EXTENSION.

No matter how many times it is explained that initial RFP process (for just four names) was just one of SEVERAL possible methods of distributing the 5000+ premium names held back by mTLD - some people just don't get it or REFUSE to acknowledge it.

mTLD is a registry with a plan. It will adapt as needed and enforce and adjust policies as it sees fit taking many factors into consideration. And the funds garnered through backers, registration fees, premium auctions, and other offerings are being used to build out the extension and support developers. It is not "greed" to sell your product into the marketplace. It is business. It is not "hype" to issue press releases and advertise your products and services. It is business.

Gary - Since the beginning it ... for some it has gone far beyond playing devil's advocate as you politely suggest. Those naysayers who either can't or refuse to recognize or acknowledge the major effort being put forth by dotMobi are either ignorant or lacking in business acumen. IMHO. What else could explain their persistence, insistence, and resistance to everything dotMobi? The constant parroting that .mobi is somehow "unbrandable" is evidence of a lack of knowledge of branding or marketing. Let me pre-empt the canned response ... That also is not character assasination - it is an observation and my IMHO.

What other extension registry in the world has shown ANY semblence of this type of commitment? NONE!. The developer tools keep coming and keep getting better. The reachout to the .mobi name investors and mobile developers keeps growing. New workshops have just been announced for New York, San Francisco, and London. We are only less than two years into this and .Mobi is progressing nicely. The slew of good news keeps coming.

.

I agree with you all the way to the bank!

with regards to the naysayers - they help to keep us focused; with regards to one vocal chap... I'd like to hear from him to see what he really knows & what he has to say (of substance).... he certainly offers a sounding board at times... Devils Advocate / Character asassination etc.. are just polite ways of saying what we think from time to time but joking aside, I wish he would discuss the matters more openly; people you disagree with don't need to be enemies, I have some great disagreements with my friends at times!

 

[coast]

Acc, I've been on this forum long enough to know what certain former staff members are likely to post here. I answered for the simple reason that many of our NP colleagues have started wandering in to the .mobi section here, and I occasionally have a desire to set the record straight as I know it. The individual in question purchased some names that do not have a wide mass appeal, either on purpose to prove a point or because he overestimated the desire of others to have those names. Only he knows for sure.

My purpose in posting is for those just tuning in to get the other side of the picture as I know it.

 

[mediaadvantages]

Jeff.....enough of the abandoning the RFP process. Stop making false statements. You have continued to LIE about things you obviously don't know. Don't you know God doesn't like LIARS! You will now be on Santas naughty list this year for LYING. You have mentioned 5x in this thread alone that mTLD has abandoned the RFP process. They have not abandoned this process. In fact a RFP was submitted almost 6 weeks ago and was approved soon after for a premium domain. I don't care to tell you what the name is at this time because it is none of your business.

If you are so worried about the RFP process and want a name so bad then spend the time to write a proposal instead of posting false statements in threads.

Have a great day! :santa:

 

[Jasdon]

Jeff - why don't you put your energy into something useful like chasing kiddy fiddlers?

You should not be dispensing any sort of investment advice, IMHO.

And no one likes you.

 

[cobo]

Maybe a poll is in order.
For example, a simple "Should Jeff be banned from the mobi section, Yes or No", would probably do.
It would be interesting to see the stats on that! IMHO!!!
If someone were to post such a thread, I know how I would vote!
With such insistent negative posting, perhaps he is being paid as a dis-info agent!

 

[newdomainer.mobi]

Jeff - why don't you put your energy into something useful like chasing kiddy fiddlers?

You should not be dispensing any sort of investment advice, IMHO.

And no one likes you.

Thin Ice Jasdon, thin ice!

He's off the streets when he's on the forums... it's better that way!

As for Santa? Jeff is far too much of a cynic to believe in silly things like Santa.... or God... I know I am

 

[Jasdon]

Thin Ice Jasdon, thin ice!

He's off the streets when he's on the forums... it's better that way!

As for Santa? Jeff is far too much of a cynic to believe in silly things like Santa.... or God... I know I am

I wasn't suggesting he is one - I could've said 'saving the polar bear'.

Besides, he may not be off the streets when he's on the forum - maybe he's posting using the #1 Namepros.mobi IHHO!

 

[newdomainer.mobi]

I wasn't suggesting he is one - I could've said 'saving the polar bear'.

Besides, he may not be off the streets when he's on the forum - maybe he's posting using the #1 Namepros.mobi IHHO!

Saving the Polar bear? :bah: Have you seen a Polar bear, I don't believe that there really are Polar Bears.... they just exist in the wild imaginations of those so called 'biologists' that have bought into this 'bio-diversity' crap... shoot 'em, eat 'em that's what it's all about.... none of this newbie stuff!

I'd advise any new investor to stick with beef & milk cattle... these Polar bears will never catch on, waste of money IMHO... when they become extinct they'll be lots of 'bio' investors licking their wounds... they'll just get dropped like the Dodo; not even renewal fees could save them IMHO

God's even abandoned the RFP process, it's all about the ecosystem... IMHO

Have a nice Day! Friend.