.tv Random Opinion Valuation 2

[equity78]

In the first thread every name listed was a premium .tv. Here are 10 non premium .tv. Again what would you pay for the name.

RedCarpet.tv
Everything.tv
Seoul.tv
KBM.tv
BusinessChannel.tv
Experts.tv
PestControl.tv
Pro.tv
Videos.tv
Snooker.tv

 

[equity78]

No there is no wrong answer its what each person would pay. I think it is a good exercise to know when you are trying to sell how people value certain names, so you know you are not wasting your time. The other thing is that many names that people said they would pay x for they had the opportunity to pay half of x and in some cases 1/3 of x and did not.

No disrespect Local but that is clearly stated in the first line of the thread. WHAT WOULD YOU PAY FOR THE NAME ?

 

[localexperts]

Sure, I could have gone after Experts.TV. But I already have LocalExperts.TV and didn't want to spend money acquiring new domains. But if I had extra cash, I would have paid $10K for that domain.

 

[htmlindex]

RedCarpet.tv - reg fee
Everything.tv - reg fee
Seoul.tv - $10k
KBM.tv - $200
BusinessChannel.tv - $800
Experts.tv - $300
PestControl.tv - $100
Pro.tv - $2k
Videos.tv - $30k
Snooker.tv - $3k

 

[equity78]

Local I know you talked about prospective, but to put things in perspective.

Videos.tv highest offer turned down $80,000
BusinessChannel.tv SOLD FOR $10,000
PestControl.tv sold for $3500
Everything.tv highest offer turned down $1500
Experts.tv sold for over $2500
Snooker.tv SOLD for $5000
RedCarpet.tv has had 5 bids on SEDO
Pro.tv IMO if it is valued between $500 to $2500 THEN 99% of all names I have seen ever posted in the history of this forum are worth 0 Again IMO.
KBM.tv sold for over $400
Seoul.tv sold for $5000

 

[localexperts]

Speculation is subjective.

 

[bigdipper]

So many people from so many lands.

I love the mix of cultural differences. You can see how some people can get rich and some will stay poor just looking at peoples valuations. We are all different, from different places, with different experiences - and with differeing opportunities in front of us.

My own name, Experts.Tv is valued here at prices between $10,000 and $250!!!!!!!

Love it.

Snooker is massive and so ripe for internet tv - but people who never heard of the Crucible in Sheffield won't have the feintest about the suoperstars in this game or the amounts of money spent on this 'sport'. Also one of the fastest growing indoor games in China.

Pestcontrol.tv is so obviously a brilliant name, worth loads, and so easily a business opportunity in itself. I can see it, but thousands really can't. And why should they? They need YOU to see it first and let them know how brilliant it is and how unobservant they were.


If you can see the opportunity - it is there...

...and these prices show that it is possible to get an inexpensive start in a unique industry.

Jimbo, I always enjoy hearing your "perspective" and knowledge on this great extension.

Placing our own value on each of these names really is so much a matter of our own personal goals and "perspective"... which is why we are getting a nice mix of varied opinions. I believe most of the names which have been posted in these 2 threads are beautiful names indeed. It doesn't mean that i can see the value or vision behind each one.

Experts dot tv is a great sounding name that rolls off the tongue and is memorable. No doubt that it's probably worth an awful lot of coin in the proper hands. My immediate reaction to the name was that it seemed a bit "vague" for me. Again - this is just me and to be honest, i am "wet behind the ears" and still trying to learn compared to you and so many others here who have been here AND done it! In the right hands however, i can see how this name could be worth an awful lot of money. This is why i love this place b/c it is threads like this to get me to look at names from a slightly different "perspective."

There are a few though that just don't excite me. Snooker for instance is apparently a very valuable name as those "in the know" and the past sale has shown - there is a market for this game/sport. (which i was ignorant to until now) Funny thing is - i had no idea what "snooker" was until this thread which is why i couldn't really see value.

PestControl is a great name as well. A 2 word name with the perfect keywords that perfectly describe a very valuable service. If i was in the pest control business (or wanted to be - or new someone that did) then the name would probably have much more value to me.

Again - it all comes down to our own personal experience, "perspective" and future plans i suppose!

Good stuff!

 

[localexperts]

If i was in the pest control business (or wanted to be - or new someone that did) then the name would probably have much more value to me.!

Exactly BigDipper that is my point.

For Orkin, PestControl.TV is worth 10X what Seoul.TV is worth.

 

[equity78]

Glad you are enjoying in Dipper, that's what the thread is about there is no wrong answer. Everyone has their own strategy and needs to find their niche.

 

[bigdipper]

Local I know you talked about prospective, but to put things in perspective.

Videos.tv highest offer turned down $80,000
BusinessChannel.tv SOLD FOR $10,000
PestControl.tv sold for $3500
Everything.tv highest offer turned down $1500
Experts.tv sold for over $2500
Snooker.tv SOLD for $5000
RedCarpet.tv has had 5 bids on SEDO
Pro.tv IMO if it is valued between $500 to $2500 THEN 99% of all names I have seen ever posted in the history of this forum are worth 0 Again IMO.
KBM.tv sold for over $400
Seoul.tv sold for $5000

Interesting notes here, equity!

The aftermarket (and a bit of luck AND proper timing) is the ultimate indicator of value for all names regardless of how much or how little that each of us may think of them on an individual basis.

In the end I think this just confirms for all of us that a name's "true value" is what someone is willing to pay for it.

 

[localexperts]

In the end I think this just confirms for all of us that a name's "true value" is what someone is willing to pay for it.

Bingo, Economics 101

 

[jeffoverman]

interesting...everyones has many view points...

when i first came on boards, i got toners.tv off sanchay for 400 bucks... people wonder why i got it and 400 is not exactly cheap...but im in the business

local sees value in that name... just like i see value in toners.tv

everyone has different view points on things, if i tried selling toners.tv here i wouldnt get an offer and probably not even 50 bucks.

off to work-have a good one everyone...

 

[equity78]

Well each person will use data and responses to a thread in their own way.

 

[localexperts]

Look at what happened when MyrtleBeach.TV was sold. Now I have a connection to Myrtlebeach. That domain was worth it for me. But it caused a geo firestorm that several people jumped on geo. I have some experience running a service for local professionals. With all the US geos that have been purchased in the past 2 years - not a single launch. Why? Well it is not that easy - as I think some now recognize. But people jumped on the geo bandwagon two years ago just because they saw action in the geo market due to the MyrtleBeach.TV sale. It was a speculative bubble that was a reaction.

 

[jeffoverman]

the fun aspects of domaining, you see value in names, you wonder why it sold at that price, so many view points on things... we probably wont agree on each and every price.

 

[equity78]

Now Local I credited that sale as the beginning of the Geo move, some did not like it, making it like I said you were the first to own a GEO which was not said. But I wrote about Geo before the actual .tv subforum and no one replied, bumped it and updated it with the new pricing on the 50 states.tv again no reply. SO I think that got geo going in the domainer to domainer, I mean I was regging Citystabbreviation during auctions and reselling for $50 the name was 1 minute old. I don't think its been a bubble as people continue to buy and do not seem pressed to sell. Again IMO

 

[localexperts]

I think with US Geos, some of the values have gone down 10-20% from the high. So maybe bubble was the wrong word, since in a bubble it goes up and back down. This is more of a correction. But some geos were purchased at prices higher than they could demand today.

 

[bigdipper]

Look at what happened when MyrtleBeach.TV was sold. Now I have a connection to Myrtlebeach. That domain was worth it for me. But it caused a geo firestorm that several people jumped on geo. I have some experience running a service for local professionals. With all the US geos that have been purchased in the past 2 years - not a single launch. Why? Well it is not that easy - as I think some now recognize. But people jumped on the geo bandwagon two years ago just because they saw action in the geo market due to the MyrtleBeach.TV sale. It was a speculative bubble that was a reaction.

A lot of the good geo's are very rich these days... many are too rich for me and as you've alluded to, i'm not sure i would have a clue where to start unless i knew the area well and had a rock solid game plan and desire to develop.

This is why i've tried to focus on valuable keyword product/service/sport and/or make sense brandables that might work with the extension - and stay away from the geo's.

Someone once told me it is often good to "zig" when everyone else is "zagging"... (or something like that... lol)

 

[localexperts]

Well each person will use data and responses to a thread in their own way.

It bears repeating.

A couple years ago, I bought AllWedding.com. AllWedding.com was shopped for six months on many popular forums. No takers. I bought it. Since I purchased it annual revenue has gone up 6X and we have generated 15X the original purchase price. Why? Because I knew the wedding market. So that domain was worth it to me.

If 99% of the people had purchased AllWedding.com, the company would have been shut down - because the original business model is dead without the new business model.

Wedding is a great market. But I know 100s of wedding companies that have failed because they don't take off. I know one wedding company with category killer DOT COMs and it makes very little money and isn't a player in the space.

 

[joned]

This is a fascinating thread for a newcomer to read

Just wanted to thank everyone who has shared their thinking - very educational!

Cheers, Jon

 

[jeffoverman]

george i see you edit your first post... please explain why seoul.tv is worth 2 dollars?

having re read the thread just now, last night i quickly reviewed things..everyone has there thoughts onto things... but the things that catch my eye are the following questions or ponder some thought:

1. pestcontrol.tv will sell more then seoul.tv is that correct? so that being said pestcontrol.tv will sell for 900k or more? 90k offer so far x 10=900k. pest control i am sure is a big business, but this geo is prime name and best of all reg fee. or videos i see its worth 0? imo there is no way pestcontrol will sell above seoul.tv, videos.tv and possible pro.tv. 2 word term. i admit pest companies may want your name down the road but the name i sold you is more generic and offers more options. i would rather have that generic name and general idea vs 2 letter. imo. john and bob are the top of the group when it comes to .tv and john paticular. so if he had thought your name wasnt that much, that was his right, just like this is my right to post this and why you changed your numbers?

sites sell in any market.. this week a site making 2-3 dollars a day on a seasonal traffic i would say even sold for im guessing 4 years revenue if not 6 years out. your site would sell, just depends on perspective


george, point being-everyone has there own view points on things. thats what i said in my posts as i quickly wrote that out and my blackberry is still acting up. re read this thread and its peoples thoughts into values. there isnt anyone right into this. just like my post-imo seoul.tv is worth 50 times over pestcontrol if not more. traffic designed sites sell in whatever the market has to offer.

so again thats my view point, you have yours, everyone has theres. but above are my view points having read the thread in not a rush. if someone said toners.tv is worth 50 bucks to me- fine. no worries to me. when pz.tv just was won in an auction-sure couple people got me heated up when the value was worth zero but in 5 min of saying he is nuts to myself, i love the name and has value in my eyes in fact an undervalued asset in bad times imo.

oh the geo market. now some of the things, i agree with. i dont know if the market had changed due to geo .tv holdings by you and people upset before i came on board i believe but i do agree that geo .tv usa names and owners are asking high end prices. prices need to be correct in this market. plus as noted before-its unproven here really besides a news station owning one developed .tv site. now i am beginning to see the uk europe friends are surly ahead of the curve on geo .tv sites and being accepted by consumers. its like .com over there. usa market is way behind on that area and .tv generally. uk underpriced due to factors vs some overpriced geo owners here in the usa and thinking 250k sale will be reached soon. i only have a small geo name here, im still bullish usa market and .tv.

so just my thoughts folks, i re read this post and had to state my thoughts into things.

everyone has the great names, there has been a lot of nda sales and .tv is going do just fine.

RedCarpet.TV - $0
Everything.TV - $0
Seoul.TV - $2
KBM.TV - $0
BusinessChannel.TV - $1000
Experts.TV - $10,000
PestControl.TV - $3,000
Pro.TV - $1000
Videos.TV - $0
Snooker.TV - $0