.tv Question - Need feedback

[smashfactory]

do you think people may tend to shy away from a .tv because they are afraid of developing? i mean- i have some ideas for my tv's, and they include say viewer submitted videos and such- or showing my own- this can be very daunting to someone who is clueless with this whole realm- someone who just wanted to do this because they saw one, but really has no idea what is involved- i know i have not even dabbled in it and it scares me-
but do you think some people think it might be to tough to do- might cost too much to have done?

and, would it help or hurt to have sites started- the only thing there is that it may be "my" idea for the site and not theirs- i do not like to develop if i can help it- but i cant help but wonder if people tend to be scared of a tv-


help me out here- i want to make my tvs as accessable as possible

 

[TheBulldog]

Personally, and this is just me, if you have a name that is self-explanatory and you don't want to dev, then the name should sell itself. If it is a little confusing, then you need to have a dev plan to, at a minimum, explain to a potential buyer.

The biggest problem around here is that there is a camp that automatically says "YOU MUST DEV OR IT IS WORTHLESS". I think that is actually the biggest deterrent. I strongly believe that 80-90% of people here and elsewhere are only resellers. The rest are people with extra cash to throw at developing a small percentage of their sites, but certainly not all of them.

That is why when I ask for an appraisal, I specifically either say what the plan I have in mind is, or I very explicitly state "resale only" to get appraisals that way, and then I roll my eyes when someone tells me I have to dev it or it is worthless. I just don't believe that is true in every case, and making that blanket statement is scaring away potential buyers of dot tv that might actually be looking at some of our current names as an investment.



The better question to ask is to the TV people here. What percentage are they actively and plan to develop as a percentage of the entire TV portfolio they own versus what they have as an investment to resell only. My stance is that if you are deving more then 50-75%, then you are a developer and not a domainer. (Not that that is a bad thing.

As an example, at any one time I own about 25-30 dot tv's. I am actively deving about 3 of them. The rest are for sale, although not until after May 1st when the demand may go up.

As a further example, I own BuyMovies.tv. I asked for an appraisal on that, and I think I even said "Resell only". No offense at all to the person who said it, but one of the first responses was something like "oh not much unless you dev it with a script or something". Frankly, I don't know how "BuyMovies" could be any more self explanatory, and I will certainly get more then reg fee on the resell market. In this case, I went ahead and put a site on it, albeit just an Amazon Affiliate.

While I don't disagree that certain names do need dev, people here need to understand that people 99% of the time are not asking that, they are just looking for resale value. Everytime a potential customer comes in here looking for advice and possibly a better name from one of us, they immediately get scared off by the "dev or die" attitude around here.

This is not meant to be derogatory, more a bit of customer service advice. If all your potential customers feel alienated because they don't feel ok to ask questions, then you are pushing away their potential as well.

 

[smashfactory]

hey showbiz

i am talking enduser here- the common joe may just love my name Belch.tv- wants to make it a comedy type thing- but he thinks-.... how am i gonna do this? i know nothing about how to set up or upload or show videos online!


do you think this deters the common buyer- not other domainers-

 

[.jd.]

Im young, and thought that to myself.. I want to make a living domaing/developing.. I figured I will do what I must do at what ever cost.. You must do, what you must to do be successfull and obtain the goals you want ... So if some one wants a .tv to really be produced hell have to push, but push he must

 

[TheBulldog]

Oh Smash, there I went on a rant......Daughter is teething, I'm on edge.

Ok, yes, to an end user, absolutely. The end user's have NO idea you can get scripts to make a you tube type site. So in that regards, end-end users will be looking for a developed site.

So where are you in the Domaining food-chain?

El-Food Chain-O (Copyright Showbiz type guy 1923)
========
Registrar
-->Domainer or Rube registers domain
Choice A-->Rube develops BriansBeansandMonkeys.com as a rant against Bill Gates.
Choice B-->Domainer puts Porn.com out for appraisal on NamePros.

-->Rube has 25 visitors a month to his forum and is happy for 2.5 years
-->Domainer mulls replies ranging from "That sucks, you better dev" to "WOAH, that is the best name ever"

-->Domainer puts name for sale on Sedo, Afternic, and the Make offer section at namepros and DNF with a low ball starting price of $12.50

-->Name sells nowhere, and Domainer lowers price to $4.50
---->Bids finally start coming in and domain sells at site auction for $74 after sitting dormant for 2 years and 5 months to DomainReseller.
----->Domainer is happy with ROI
------>Rube gets bored and goes looking for new name
------->Rube sees porn.com relisted on Sedo and puts in initial bid of $500.
--------->DomainReseller panics at having gotten an offer and posts a thread in Apraisals section asking what the should sell for.
----------->Domain reseller gets tired of seeing "low $xx" and asks Rube for $2500.
------------->Rube takes loan from mom and buys domain. Makes fan site to Alicia Keys, and starts making $5000 a month in clicks.
--------------->Rube learns more by looking around and lists porn.com at some other site and sells it for $5 million.


So, does that help?

 

[MillersCrossing]

do you think people may tend to shy away from a .tv because they are afraid of developing? i mean- i have some ideas for my tv's, and they include say viewer submitted videos and such- or showing my own- this can be very daunting to someone who is clueless with this whole realm- someone who just wanted to do this because they saw one, but really has no idea what is involved- i know i have not even dabbled in it and it scares me-

Smash,

your words "it scares me" is very refreshing to read........very honest, not many would come onto a forum and admit so publicly.

That fear needs to be addressed though. There are many levels of .TV out there as far as "development" is concerned.

There are sites like Atypicals' Launched.TV, which is a .TV directory and which does not require more development skills than a .com. Then there is my own Allthings.TV which s a blog on WEB 2.0. It will be a blogging site and a vlogging site, but embedding a video into a website requires minimal "TV" skills.....

Moving on up, you have the social networking sites, of which I will be developing in the near future. This is where the .TV brand is truly meaningful. The good news is that you have choices.......there are enough turnkey companies out there that will handle everything from design of the site to the hosting, converting uploaded video to flash and even monitering the content of the uploaded videos.....

In my opinion, the next level up are the TV channels....the sites that go out into the world and film footage regarding the issues it has chosen to broadcast.......this does indeed require videographer skills, editing skills as well as everything else already mentioned........

I am developing a site on this level aswell and I share that same "fear" - I have never held a video camera in my hands since the day Iwas born......buying it this week i will be facing up to my fears....and saying to myself - if you dont give it a shot, you will always ask yourself what might have been......could I have built a successful business that will allow me to retire in style or have I let that fear get the upper hand....??

Go for it Smash.......whether other people face up to their fear will be of absolutely no relevance once you have chosen to face up to your own.......


Another point to mention is that you are not on your own as far as being able to develop a site is concerned.....

Take You Tube - less than one tenth of 1% of viewers actually upload videos to the site!!!

I did some research and found an article on it and then made some of my own observations - the statistics are pretty shocking.......http://www.allthings.tv/articles/49...PORT/Page1.html

 

[meeks]

Allthings I agree 100%
Fear is natural in any realm and this business is no different from any other business out there, All entrepreneurs have some sort of fear when starting a project of any kind....will it work...will people like the idea...etc etc.

Just go for it and keep going for it until you find it!

 

[smashfactory]

i really hope channelme makes it E A S Y- i think that would help soooo much and people would be ready to jump into a project like this!

 

[DomainBuyerBroker]

Buy now, develop later

Once you own the "land", no one can take that away from you (unless TM) so you can develop later.

That may mean a parking lot (ppc), a fun house (fun videos), a skyscraper (huge developed site), etc.

 

[kubativity]

Dont worry.. video streaming will become as easy as email very very soon!