Potential Enduser sale of .net....need advice

[Debt.tv]

I have been sending emails to end users for a while now and I just received my first positive response but I need opinions on how to respond back.

PM me for details...don't want to put domain name out in public.

 

[rmg]

It all depends of the domain and... if you are happy with the value get a broker and sell it :tri:

 

[Name Trader]

Respond back with a price, imho.

 

[Erdy]

I agree with stub.

I would respond and,
1) give them a fixed price
2) give a sedo link or godaddy marketplace link
3) mention them a few site names of potential buyers. Some buyers assume they are the only one who might ever approach you for that domain. Once they see there are other potential buyers for the domain they understand the value more. People like the things that other people like.

Give them a fixed price. If they turn you down wait two months and contact them back with a lower price if you need to sell.

Once I offered a domain to a potential buyer for €750 and they wrote back saying they will pay €200. I didn't respond to that. 45 days later they bough the domain for €750.

 

[Debt.tv]

All great advice! Thank you.

I responded with $800 and told him it was fair market value based on previous offers, monthly search volume and domain age. I also told them that the price may be slighty negotiable.

 

[biggie]

I have been sending emails to end users for a while now and I just received my first positive response but I need opinions on how to respond back.

PM me for details...don't want to put domain name out in public.

:talk:


Hi

this is where i have problem with many domainers who send out unsolicited emails (spam) in hopes of getting an end-user sale.


it's like going to pick a fight with someone and you have no "boxing" skills.


before you send out any solicitation, you should already know how much you want and be "anticipating" the various responses if any that will come back.

also, don't offer flexibility before you have received an offer or have given a price range.


don't wait til after, do before

be prepared


imo...

 

[Erdy]

...many domainers who send out unsolicited emails (spam) ...

Unsolicited doesn't mean spam. The majority of email that is send by anybody is unsolicited. If you go to my website you will see an email address on the contact page. You might send me an email. Many people do. What are you supposed to do? Send an email to ask if you can send an email?

Spam has to be unsolicited and bulk. If I visit a website and check out their contact details and send them an email, this is not spam. They are putting their contact details out there to be contacted.

Spammers buy email lists in thousands. They send out emails to email addresses which they have no idea to whom it belongs to. Contacting end users can't be classified as spam.

Let's say I saw you here at namepros and I own the domain biggie.net. I might send you an email about this and it wouldn't be spam because it is targeted and specific and not bulk.

If I send an email to all namepros members and try to sell them something, this would be spam.

 

[biggie]

Unsolicited doesn't mean spam. The majority of email that is send by anybody is unsolicited. If you go to my website you will see an email address on the contact page. You might send me an email. Many people do. What are you supposed to do? Send an email to ask if you can send an email?

Spam has to be unsolicited and bulk. If I visit a website and check out their contact details and send them an email, this is not spam. They are putting their contact details out there to be contacted.

Spammers buy email lists in thousands. They send out emails to email addresses which they have no idea to whom it belongs to. Contacting end users can't be classified as spam.

Let's say I saw you here at namepros and I own the domain biggie.net. I might send you an email about this and it wouldn't be spam because it is targeted and specific and not bulk.

If I send an email to all namepros members and try to sell them something, this would be spam.

don't care how you clean it to rationalize it


it's still spam


especially when you look at the total volume of emails being sent out from each domainer.

you have no idea whether their emails are tailored to a specific industry or just sent out to random entities.


and since you don't know....in that perspective it's spam


imo..

 

[Erdy]

Biggie,
you continue doing your thing and I do mine. I'm not going to start teaching you how to do domaining. You are an old timer.

I agree with Dynadot's spam definition. I find it very good:
http://www.dynadot.com/spam_policy.html

I think contacting end users is a great idea and works well for me. If others want to know about this I wrote a few messages here:
http://www.namepros.com/68798-how-to-find-potential-end-users-77.html

To create my potential end user lists,
I make a search on Google, visit the websites, decide whether they fit the profile and write down their contact details if they do. This is a screenshot of my excel file:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2654/clientsearch.gif

 

[biggie]

Biggie,
you continue doing your thing and I do mine. I'm not going to start teaching you how to do domaining. You are an old timer.

I agree with Dynadot's spam definition. I find it very good:
http://www.dynadot.com/spam_policy.html

I think contacting end users is a great idea and works well for me. If others want to know about this I wrote a few messages here:
http://www.namepros.com/68798-how-to-find-potential-end-users-77.html

To create my potential end user lists,
I make a search on Google, visit the websites, decide whether they fit the profile and write down their contact details if they do. This is a screenshot of my excel file:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2654/clientsearch.gif

thanks for not trying to teach me

and yes, as an old timer, i have much respect for the end-user, so i don't condone this mass spam campaign that you and others engage in.

i prefer to try and acquire good domain names so an end-user can contact me, which gives me all the leverage.


but it's good you can find something to agree with (dynadot), as that will make you feel better about what you do.

sure, you may take more time, search more details, but you are just one of hundreds.


how do you think these end-users feel when they are getting these emails?

one of the first things they think is, you are squatting on a domain trying to get huge sums of cash.

not hating on your success or loving your failures...just giving my opinion.

imo...

 

[Erdy]

how do you think these end-users feel when they are getting these emails?

It depends on the quality and price of the domain you are offering. In my case, I offer domains at a fixed price typically between $495 to $795 and they are highly targeted. I received some good responses.

If other domainers are offering rubbish domains for high prices, of course this is not a good idea and they shouldn't do that. What do you expect me to do? Find all those domainers and smack them?

I can't do that. However I can help others to understand better how this thing works and who they should be contacting and what they should include in their message.

I guess you get some emails too because of your green domains. If you have developed websites some domainers might think you are an end user.

 

[Debt.tv]

I only send 10-20 emails out per domain. I search on google and just like Erdinc, I email them to their contact information and I check domain tools. I knew how much I wanted to ask, I was just wondering how to respond...professional with lots of details or does a short simple response work best? I decided on professional with lots of details...live and learn.\

Thanks everyone,

Eric