Politicians Drink Alcohol

[dgridley]

Do we treat people who drink alcohol like criminals? No, politicians drink alcohol..

Ron Paul discusses the war on drugs and his support for medical marijuana.

http://www.fliggo.com/video/9tN26bXa

 

[Keral_Patel]

Humm.... I live in Gujarat, India where Alcohol drinking is a crime.

But yes have heard that people are not treated as criminals in other parts of the world.

 

[.X.]

Alcoholism is an epidemic, and a small percentage of alcoholics, ever maintain a full recovery.

Some will say, Marijuana, is just the beginning of what will lead to hard drug use, Heroin, Crystal Meth and ect.

That is simply not true, people make their own decisions to use hard, "Produced Drugs", such as Heroin, Crystal Meth and ect. people make their own choices in life, and choosing to use sh*t that is made by man, with chemicals known to kill human beings, any one who would use sh*t like that, is a huge idiot.

I believe Marijuana should have been legalized, In "ALL" states, for medical use, at the very least, If it were fully legalized for use by adults, I wouldn't oppose that.

The long term effects of Alcohol, used long term daily, are fierce, and aggressive. Alcohol addiction is one of the hardest addictions to beat, People are killed every year by drunk drivers, I have been affected myself, a long life friend of mine, was driving home, a drunk couple in a pick up truck, ran accross the road, head on into her, she left 3 young children behind, both of the drunks in pickup truck, suffered minor injuries.

I am not saying, driving after smoking Marijuana is ok, But givin the choice, I would rather be driving next to some one who used Marijuana, than some one who just left a bar, and has a blood alcohol; level of 1.0, NO ONE, should ever drink and drive, Nor use Marijuana and drive.

In my opinion, there are prescription drugs, which i know people must take, for health conditions, that are far more dangerous than a person that used Marijuana, and is behind the wheel of a car.

With all that said, i would just like to add, I do not endorse Ron Paul , Nor do i support him, Although his views on this issue, are right on cue, Imo

 

[dgridley]

I have neighbors that take prescription drugs that can (literally) barely sit upright.. one neighbor takes 20 prescription drugs per day!

My grandmother was an alcoholic so I know how that can ravage someone.

I don't believe smoking marijuana necessarily leads to using harder drugs.

 

[James]

Alcoholism is an epidemic, and a small percentage of alcoholics, ever maintain a full recovery.

Some will say, Marijuana, is just the beginning of what will lead to hard drug use, Heroin, Crystal Meth and ect.

That is simply not true, people make their own decisions to use hard, "Produced Drugs", such as Heroin, Crystal Meth and ect. people make their own choices in life, and choosing to use sh*t that is made by man, with chemicals known to kill human beings, any one who would use sh*t like that, is a huge idiot.

I believe Marijuana should have been legalized, In "ALL" states, for medical use, at the very least, If it were fully legalized for use by adults, I wouldn't oppose that.

The long term effects of Alcohol, used long term daily, are fierce, and aggressive. Alcohol addiction is one of the hardest addictions to beat, People are killed every year by drunk drivers, I have been affected myself, a long life friend of mine, was driving home, a drunk couple in a pick up truck, ran accross the road, head on into her, she left 3 young children behind, both of the drunks in pickup truck, suffered minor injuries.

I am not saying, driving after smoking Marijuana is ok, But givin the choice, I would rather be driving next to some one who used Marijuana, than some one who just left a bar, and has a blood alcohol; level of 1.0, NO ONE, should ever drink and drive, Nor use Marijuana and drive.

In my opinion, there are prescription drugs, which i know people must take, for health conditions, that are far more dangerous than a person that used Marijuana, and is behind the wheel of a car.

With all that said, i would just like to add, I do not endorse Ron Paul , Nor do i support him, Although his views on this issue, are right on cue, Imo

I totally agree but i also think that marijuana does let your guard down for stupid things like heavier drugs especially in younger people (teens), marijuana wouldn't be the only reason though, You have aspects like peer pressure etc. I think its about the person being in-control and thinking more before doing something so stupid.

Saying that, It doesn't mean i'm againest it, I'd rather people smoking marijuana then smoking ciggerettes, Look at all the people dying from cancer, Have you ever seen a marijuana rated death from something body related?

 

[visoads]

whats wrong with sipping a beer or some wine ? not like its against the law in US? but can't say that for the rest of the world

 

[.X.]

whats wrong with sipping a beer or some wine ? not like its against the law in US? but can't say that for the rest of the world

The main problem is this, people go to bars and pubs to drink, a lot of those of people don't just drink 2 or 3 drinks, they go in, knowing, they are going to get intoxicated, then they jump into their vehicle and drive home, Intoxicated, putting every one on the road around them, in immediate danger, and they do this knowingly, because they were sober, before they went to that bar, and had full intentions of getting intoxicated.

Drinking in moderation is the responable thing to do, unfortuantly, We have a society that believes otherwise, there are many people who drink responable, but there are millions who don't.

The difference between Alcohol and Marijuana, Marijuana has a short life span of intoxication, Alcohol usually takes a night of sleep to break it's intoxication.

I like to drink my beer, don't get me wrong, but i do it in my house, and i NEVER drive, under any circumstance, I will have some one drive me, should a family emergency or ect take place.

 

[kev]

Humm.... I live in Gujarat, India where Alcohol drinking is a crime.

alcohol is banned !?! that must be awful

nothing better than getting drunk with your mates :hehe:

 

[jido]

alcohol is banned !?! that must be awful

nothing better than getting drunk with your mates :hehe:

I never understood the fun in that. Sure it can be funny to see what idiocies drunk people come up with, but you don't need to be drunk to be an ass.

 

[dgridley]

I've never understood getting drunk either.. especially not to the point I've seen some do.

I like a nice glass of good wine once in awhile, but the intention has never been to get drunk. Never cared for beer.

 

[kev]

I never understood the fun in that. Sure it can be funny to see what idiocies drunk people come up with, but you don't need to be drunk to be an ass.

meh, alcohol lightens your mood and makes you have a wild time. never enjoy being sober on a night out :hehe: its probably because of our culture that we see alcohol like this. the health aspect doesnt concern me at all

 

[THCGroup]

Being a Medical Marijuana patient in the state of Colorado, and being an activist for the last 20 years, there are some things I think people don't understand.

It has been proven several times by many government studies (the same govt that says there are studies to keep it illegal for that very same reason), that marijuana is NOT a gateway drug. But, the fact that marijuana is illegal and sold in the same underground market as "hard drugs", often brings people into contact with stuff they wouldn't otherwise be around or in contact with.

Alcohol Prohibition was proven unsuccessful because it moved alcohol to the underground market, where it was sold by people who were also involved in the cocaine and opium dealing in the early 1900's. The people who bought alcohol at the time were then exposed to other "hard drugs" because of this. Therefore Alcohol would be considered a gateway drug if the same methods of labeling were used as today, but since the govt reversed prohibition and started making revenue off of it once again, it is considered socially acceptable.

End marijuana prohibition and let responsible adults do there own recreational activities legally and you will take out the underground market, and no longer be introduced to "harder drugs".

 

[Travis]

I have neighbors that take prescription drugs that can (literally) barely sit upright.. one neighbor takes 20 prescription drugs per day!

My grandmother was an alcoholic so I know how that can ravage someone.

I don't believe smoking marijuana necessarily leads to using harder drugs.

My grandmother is an alcoholic so I never plan to be like that. I do drink a lot, but then again I am in college.

As for marijuana being a gateway drug, it's not. Moving on to other drugs is a choice. The only reason it is considered a gateway drug is because it is the easiest to get ahold of, so of course people will start with it.

I used to smoke my fair share of marijuana. I had to stop when I got arrested for a DWI though.(no I don't drive under the influence anymore) I have also tried other drugs in an attempt to experiment with them. I only did it a few times, so I was fine. It's been quite some time since that though.

Marijuana really needs to be legalized. It does so much. It can give a cancer patient the drive to eat, and it can cure headaches or other minor sicknesses. Aside from that, it's far less harmfull than alcohol and cigarettes because it only has temporary negative effects.

 

[.X.]

Being a Medical Marijuana patient in the state of Colorado, and being an activist for the last 20 years, there are some things I think people don't understand.

It has been proven several times by many government studies (the same govt that says there are studies to keep it illegal for that very same reason), that marijuana is NOT a gateway drug. But, the fact that marijuana is illegal and sold in the same underground market as "hard drugs", often brings people into contact with stuff they wouldn't otherwise be around or in contact with.

Alcohol Prohibition was proven unsuccessful because it moved alcohol to the underground market, where it was sold by people who were also involved in the cocaine and opium dealing in the early 1900's. The people who bought alcohol at the time were then exposed to other "hard drugs" because of this. Therefore Alcohol would be considered a gateway drug if the same methods of labeling were used as today, but since the govt reversed prohibition and started making revenue off of it once again, it is considered socially acceptable.

End marijuana prohibition and let responsible adults do there own recreational activities legally and you will take out the underground market, and no longer be introduced to "harder drugs".

Excellent Post! and great points made, Bert :tu:

 

[James]

alcohol is banned !?! that must be awful

nothing better than getting drunk with your mates :hehe:

So is porn and gambling.


Good post bertwrld :]

 

[KingDon]

Once a month me and my gang of friends all get together for a night of bar hopping courtesy of one of my clients who has a limo service. We all have a great time and hit about 7 places during the evening.

I like to get drunk with people, they can't hide their inner self when they've had a little to much to drink. It's nice to hear what people really have to say, and after a few beers it all comes out. Then I know who I'm dealing with, the happy drunk or the angry drunk; guess which one gets weeded out of the group?

 

[jido]

Not to say it is not great to see people lower their guard sometimes. I do not believe that alcohol is the best way; depending on your upbringing it may help though.

In my experience you start loosening up before you are drunk. In other words when having alcohol you don't need to get all drunk and stupid/irresponsible/violent etc to enjoy the social aspects of it. Just my opinion.

 

[WolfMother]

Good post

This is why i'm for Ron Paul. He speaks the truth and is not afraid to confront issues that are sensitive to other politicians because it doesn't appease their agenda and "interests".

Even though it is a plant, marijuana is a classified DRUG because of THC. So is alcohol, so are cigarettes, and so are the 5 million legal pharmaceuticals the drug lobby pushes so hard. I had a friend die from an overdose of oxycontin, the opiate derivative to heroin. This drug was prescribed to him through his psychiatrist, and he eventually couldn't live without it, built a tolerance, and then ended up killing himself from it. It is despicable what kind of drugs are allowed to be legal that are so harmful.

I think the main reason for the strong lobby to not legalize pot is the inability to capitalize on it. If it became legal, a huge portion of users will grow it and that does not permit the government to profit. Alcohol, cigarette, and big pharmaceutical companies must pay an immense amount to the gov't through taxes, promotions, and lobbies. I'm not sure exactly what goes on, but why else would an organic substance which has a proven medical track, a less destructive nature than other legal drugs, and a relatively quick sobering period be made illegal?

I do not think pot is absolutely harmless. It is something that is traditionally smoked, and nothing smoked is 'good' for your body. It has the tendency to make you lazy and possibly stupid. It can distort reality for many people, and it's effects vary from person to person so I do not think you should drive or be responsible for anything that will endanger someone while you are high. This goes for any substance that will effect your judgment.

The war on drugs is an issue i find very disturbing as it is another massive waste of money in my opinion. They are taking my tax dollars and using them to fund commercials saying that smoking pot will make you run over little girls at a drive through, and fund terrorism. What an outrage, i would be tempted to slap the person responsible for that.

I'm glad we have a lot of level headed individuals here, you will all hopefully make a difference in the world with your free thought.

 

[dgridley]

My feeling is the war on drugs is one that was lost long ago and it seems we're just pumping alot of money into a deep hole.. dunno the solution but something needs to be done and I think legalization is the way to go IMO.