Parking Platforms are getting ridiculous.

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So I was informed a few days ago by "DomainPower".

"To better serve our advertisers and stakeholders we have decided to move in a bit of a different direction. As of now DomainPower.com has become an invite only platform for larger domains and portfolios. You can review our new requirements at www.domainpower.com."

Basically they say that all portfolios must generate a minimum of $500 a month.
Now am I wrong or is it their job to get your portfolio making $500+ a month?

I had a similar issue with DomainParking. When applying to their service I would up having an email exchange with the Igal guy because DP requirements to be "in the system" were unbelievable. For example, they said my portfolio needs to make a minimum of $100 a day. I told the guy if my portfolio made that then why would I need his platform? He danced around quite a bit because he couldn't tell me how his company could do any better.

Frankly if my portfolio was making the money that these places "require" then who the hell would need them?

Sorry for the rant, but this is just turning into a private club of guys who own portfolios of well over 1,000+ domains and somehow rule the PPC world.

I rotated my portfolio between several PPC Monetization platforms for almost 2 years. With 500 domain names I didn't make more than $.050 (not even hitting the payout threshold).

Very discouraging.

 

[equity78]

Ok I will correct you, because you are wrong. I don't mean that with any disrespect but you asked if you were wrong.

Parking companies are not here to help you, No, They want this:

A clean,tm free portfolio that gets natural type in traffic. Of course you can have traffic from backlinks from former websites.

You cannot generate traffic to your parked page
You cannot click your own ads or ask anyone else

Many have wanted higher levels of traffic and quality to get into their program.
They look at portfolios and for the most part can tell if someone has a good portfolio that will be clean with legit traffic, or if it will be an account that most likely gets any direct navigation traffic.

InternetTraffic.com used to be exclusive, Frank had 240 members before opening up the platform.

Ask Donny in the Voodoo thread about all the problems it is for people like him running a parking company when people apply with names that no rational person can figure out how there is traffic.

We have no idea here what your portfolio is so I am not saying you don't have a legitimate portfolio but parking companies are private entities that can pick and choose their clients.

Have you tried Voodoo or Rook or Namepros owner Bodis ?

 

[Kate]

Now am I wrong or is it their job to get your portfolio making $500+ a month?

It depends on what you bring to the table. If your domains don't have natural, converting traffic, no parking company can help you.
PPC companies cannot make money out of nothing.
No, not any domain can qualify for parking. In fact, most do not qualify.

I rotated my portfolio between several PPC Monetization platforms for almost 2 years. With 500 domain names I didn't make more than $.050 (not even hitting the payout threshold).

$0.50 or the whole lot ?
Do you really mean your whole portfolio made $0.50 in 2 years ? I find it amazing that a portfolio can be so horrible.
What are your best domains ? Just curious.

We have no idea here what your portfolio is so I am not saying you don't have a legitimate portfolio but parking companies are private entities that can pick and choose their clients.

Real world analogy: if you have empty pockets and look like a bum, you don't walk in a bank expecting they will open a checking account for you.

 

[biggie]

So I was informed a few days ago by "DomainPower".

"To better serve our advertisers and stakeholders we have decided to move in a bit of a different direction. As of now DomainPower.com has become an invite only platform for larger domains and portfolios. You can review our new requirements at www.domainpower.com."

Basically they say that all portfolios must generate a minimum of $500 a month.
Now am I wrong or is it their job to get your portfolio making $500+ a month?

I had a similar issue with DomainParking. When applying to their service I would up having an email exchange with the Igal guy because DP requirements to be "in the system" were unbelievable. For example, they said my portfolio needs to make a minimum of $100 a day. I told the guy if my portfolio made that then why would I need his platform? He danced around quite a bit because he couldn't tell me how his company could do any better.

Frankly if my portfolio was making the money that these places "require" then who the hell would need them?

Sorry for the rant, but this is just turning into a private club of guys who own portfolios of well over 1,000+ domains and somehow rule the PPC world.

I rotated my portfolio between several PPC Monetization platforms for almost 2 years. With 500 domain names I didn't make more than $.050 (not even hitting the payout threshold).

Very discouraging.

:talk:

Hi

actually, the "discriminating" entry standards are to maintain a level of consistency for the pool, therefore a higher return potential for the participants.

it makes the system more efficient to help optimize names that fit criteria, than doing so with those that don't.

sedo has had earning and quantity standard for sedopro for years

domainsponsor still screens applicants

so if you've been around....it's just seen as an evolution of the niche'

but if you treat domains as a business, then don't take rejection in this business, personally.

imo...

 

[ulasbbtr]

Parking is dead unless you own category killer premium domains. Even those premium domains do not bring too much because first ad providers try to grab more and more every year, second parking companies try do in a same manner, then nothing is left for you. That's why domain king Rick trying to lease domains but not park.

 

[biggie]

Parking is dead unless you own category killer premium domains. Even those premium domains do not bring too much because first ad providers try to grab more and more every year, second parking companies try do in a same manner, then nothing is left for you. That's why domain king Rick trying to lease domains but not park.

:talk:

lol

sounds like you musta just found out about leasing names and still are misinformed about parking

 

[ulasbbtr]

This is from Rick's blog. It is as clear as what I wrote for who can read and understand.

"How a Domain Earning 3 CENTS per YEAR is now a 7 Figure Lease.
What do you call a domain that earned 3 cents during the past year on PPC and is now setup for a 7 figure payday? I don't know and my calculator is having a hard time figuring out the increase. Substantial just does not convey the deal that Gordon Martin (DropWizard) made."

 

[Donny]

I'm not exactly sure what happened with DomainPower or why they changed their policies. I'm sure the rumors will float around over the next few days and probably in this thread.

ulasbbtr - If you look at what Rick is saying, you take a domain that makes 3 cents per year, and make it into a 7 figure lease. He's not saying that parking is dead. Rick parks almost all of his domains.

Domain Parking is not an easy busy to run, out of 10 people who apply at Voodoo we approve 3.5 of them. The biggest problem is somebody comes in and sends a bunch of bad traffic, they get caught, and come back applying as somebody else the next day. But for most people this is a business, and we do our best to make sure that we help those customers make the most money possible. Sometimes it's PPC revenue, sometimes it's selling or leasing their domains.

Donny

 

[smurge]

Parking is dead unless you own category killer premium domains. Even those premium domains do not bring too much because first ad providers try to grab more and more every year, second parking companies try do in a same manner, then nothing is left for you. That's why domain king Rick trying to lease domains but not park.

This is false information. I've proven time and time again it's not dead. It's only dead to you because you may not understand how to do it. You do not need category killer domains and this is a lie spread throughout the industry.

 

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Hey guys,

Thanks for the opinions. I am a one man show down here in miami trying to develop one or two domains at a time for either a virtual cash machine, develop and sell or I treat them like virtual real estate and try and hold.

Now granted my thought process in my domain name choosing was unique to an extent. I had thought that perhaps the names could at least pay for their own registrations through parking. And yes I have tried damn near all of them, Bodis, Sedo...

Part of my portfolio can be seen at AdvertisementDomains.com. I have to update the site to reflect the current offerings etc. I have let quite a few go due to either financial means or the name lost it's charm with me.

I know that a parking company technically doesn't make your portfolio money.

Thanks again for your opinions.

 

[Kate]

You say you have 500 domains so the math is easy. The portfolio costs at least 4K in renewal fees every year. So you are in the red unless your parking revenue is at least 4K/year or you make domain sales from time to time.

The point is not to have a big portfolio but to own quality domains.
Quality > quantity.

If parking doesn't work for you, you can try domain sales to end users or development.
But I think you'll need to trim your portfolio real hard and get rid of non-productive domains.

If you have owned 500 domains for 2 years, you may have spent 8K already. Think about it, for that money you could have bought one quality LLL.com instead, that you can flip for a profit.
It's better than maintaining a pile of domains of questionable value :imho:

 

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You say you have 500 domains so the math is easy. The portfolio costs at least 4K in renewal fees every year. So you are in the red unless your parking revenue is at least 4K/year or you make domain sales from time to time.

The point is not to have a big portfolio but to own quality domains.
Quality > quantity.

If parking doesn't work for you, you can try domain sales to end users or development.
But I think you'll need to trim your portfolio real hard and get rid of non-productive domains.

If you have owned 500 domains for 2 years, you may have spent 8K already. Think about it, for that money you could have bought one quality LLL.com instead, that you can flip for a profit.
It's better than maintaining a pile of domains of questionable value :imho:

Hey sdsinc,

You have an amazing perception for the obvious. To be honest it has whittled down to about 400 now as I have thinned out a few. Some by choice, some not.

Yes I am well aware of the costs. And below is a quote from one of my replies:

"Thanks for the opinions. I am a one man show down here in miami trying to develop one or two domains at a time for either a virtual cash machine, develop and sell or I treat them like virtual real estate and try and hold."

As far as quantity versus quality. I hand picked every domain with great thought in mind as to whether to develop, hold or sell. So as far as the big picture is concerned I really don't care about the parking thing.

My point was that some of these PPC services are a bit ridiculous with so called requirements. As I said, if my portfolio was making $100+ a day at Sedo or Bodis, why would I even need DomainPower or DomainParking? I can live very comfortably on $3k a month and could even afford a hot girlfriend :lala:. I am living off of pennies right now. :hehe:

I would imagine the biggest problem I have is that I am NOT a TRUE WEB DESIGN GUY. I am a multimedia specialist and music producer who develops domains on the side. I really need to partner up with either money and or a true web genius to do what needs to be done.

Thanks for your opinion and input. :blink:

Best wishes.

 

[biggie]

As far as quantity versus quality. I hand picked every domain with great thought in mind as to whether to develop, hold or sell. So as far as the big picture is concerned I really don't care about the parking thing.

:talk:

while you were "hand-picking" every domain with great thought and pondering the big picture....parking was not a concern?

if that is true, then how can you really have a point to point out.....

My point was that some of these PPC services are a bit ridiculous with so called requirements. As I said, if my portfolio was making $100+ a day at Sedo or Bodis, why would I even need DomainPower or DomainParking? I can live very comfortably on $3k a month and could even afford a hot girlfriend :lala:. I am living off of pennies right now. :hehe:

,

part of your "great thought" process initially, should have included "parking" in the "big picture".

then your vision may have manifested itself thru proper acquisitions.

if you want an income from parking, then you have to buy names that are "currently" earning revenue from a "mainstream" provider.

as a domain that averages only $1.00 a month, pays it's maintenance (renewal fee) every year.,

so point is, without including ppc in the plan initially, then you can't fault ppc as you execute your agenda.

but i guess if there are folks who say ppc is dead, then it's difficult to know how to plan properly.

imo...

 

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:talk:

while you were "hand-picking" every domain with great thought and pondering the big picture....parking was not a concern?

if that is true, then how can you really have a point to point out.....

part of your "great thought" process initially, should have included "parking" in the "big picture".

then your vision may have manifested itself thru proper acquisitions.

if you want an income from parking, then you have to buy names that are "currently" earning revenue from a "mainstream" provider.

as a domain that averages only $1.00 a month, pays it's maintenance (renewal fee) every year.,

so point is, without including ppc in the plan initially, then you can't fault ppc as you execute your agenda.

but i guess if there are folks who say ppc is dead, then it's difficult to know how to plan properly.

imo...

Hey Biggie,

I, like most people when starting out, had no idea about the whole ppc situation. Just started buying a few names here and there.

And my "great thought" process didn't include parking. It included what "would be or could be" the future of a domain name that I liked and wanted to develop.

The parking thing came up after I had amassed a few hundred and started feeling the renewal pains whilst they waited development.

And I can fault PPC because it "wasn't" part of my agenda. How much do your domains need to make in parking revenue to please you? Believe me if my portfolio made $10.00 a domain to cover the reg's I'd be happy.

As I said, if my domains were making $100 a day parked as required by these ppc companies who can't promise I could make more with them... who needs them?

Is it me or do you guys not actually read everything written. I thought I was pretty clear in my post.

Here's a perfect example DebitLine.com (one of my domains) received 6000 hits in roughly a months time... not 1 cent in conversions or clicks. So is it me or is it the "relevant content" that these PPC companies are posting on the pages?

I have names... they're not one world cat killers, but I have names. But then again as I said, I chose these names with specific things in mind.

If I had hundreds, thousands or millions to throw away on "acquisitions" and that was my "vision" it would be done. But I don't, so my acquisitions are "proper" for me.

Which leads me to a question for you. I checked out your web site of "Hand Picked" domains you offer... what was the thought process behind aircraftcleaners.com or alligator.info?

Thanks for your opinion.

 

[biggie]

Hey Biggie,

How much do your domains need to make in parking revenue to please you?

:talk:

if you have flip the switch to me, then let it be, it's cool i can take the heat



if every name makes enough on it's own, to pay renewal fee, then that pleases me.

why, because that means those are names i never have to sell.
which gives me leverage when an offer is presented

Which leads me to a question for you. I checked out your web site of "Hand Picked" domains you offer... what was the thought process behind aircraftcleaners.com or alligator.info?

Thanks for your opinion.

:talk:

Thanks for checking the site, needs updating but...

if you search 'hand picked premium domain names' in google, we are on 1st page and my 'mini-site' > domainsupermart com ranks just below that.

still, to answer your question...

i put myself in a position to speculate with acquistions, because i started purchasing a revenue stream early.


currently, i use five different ppc services and receive payments from each every month.

from sedo alone, i've earned five figures from ppc and six figures in sales.

aircraftcleaners was purchased during/prior to the airline passenger rights thingy and i still have alligator, because of obvious reasons.

but it's not the few names you can pick out to question, it's about the 'big picture" and whether the plan is working or not.

imo...

 

[rngrdanny22]

Here's a perfect example DebitLine.com (one of my domains) received 6000 hits in roughly a months time... not 1 cent in conversions or clicks. So is it me or is it the "relevant content" that these PPC companies are posting on the pages?

Where are you getting your stats?

I find it hard to believe that with 6,000 visits per month, you haven't gotten at least one click.

Some parking companies list visits by internet bots along with actual visitors. These stats are useless for determining traffic for parking (IMO).

You should be more concerned with visits and unique visitors, not "hits".

 

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Hey Danny

I had used the Above.com platform that rotated the portfolio through quite a few PPC services. It was just pathetic.

To Biggie:
Is that 5 figures for the year in parking or monthly? (I can understand 6 figures in sales)

Anyways, as I said, I did and still do have a specific vision in mind regarding my domain choices. My Big Picture is to be comfortable in life.

One plan is Advertisement Domains (rank #1 on Google as well as Bing). Sell and or lease specific type of marketable domains. I offer 15% commissions.

Once again, the PPC situation is not my concern. I was merely commenting on how ridiculous some of these companies have gotten in regards to requirements. I am stuggling to keep up my reg's but I am. The PPC world would make it easier if it produced income. In my case it does not. But if my portfolio was producing $100+ a day wherever they were parked, I wouldn't need the services that require $100 + a day. I would be suffice.

I am sure that I would be a most happy camper if I could get a nice 7 figure payday from one of the domains... then at least I could actually get some office space, create some jobs and get some web gurus to work building my vision.

Thanks again for your opinions.

 

[NameAgency]

I started in domain parking only a few months ago.
I think there's a general confusion about it. I deal with both worlds: parking and sales. And I use two different buying strategies. Domains that I buy for parking are not nice domains, in general, and I do not take into account if they could have good typein. I only buy it once I've checked its backlinks.

And it's not that bad. Here's a capture from Voodoo. THe 80% of the income is only from 10 domains. I think I can achieve $100 a day in 6 months adding more domains.

 

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Hey Primer,

Thanks for sharing.

I DO NOT buy existing domains. Can't afford to.

I would have been happy if I seen numbers like yours in the ppc world though. At least the regs would be covered. I take it those numbers are based on all your parked domains? Not knowing how many though is deceiving. If it were 3 domains great, 3000 not too good.

Thanks for posting.

 

[DU]

Parking might not be dead but I wish it was