Only the Wealthier Domainers Go Far

[dezinerite]

I've come to the conclusion that the popular saying: "you need to spend money in order to make money" plays a huge factor in the domaining business - especially now, that most of the great names have been taken years ago.

So it seems that only the wealthier domainers who can afford the premium domains or a pack load of short urls (LLL.com/LLLL.com) will profit big in this industry. Is this a fact?

 

[HuntingMoon]

persistence and creativity can far outweigh money in terms of long-term results. discipline is also a key ingredient, as well as networking skills. domaining is not for everyone.

it takes lots of money to hand-reg btw- once those renewal fees start hitting it can be challenging for a beginning domainer.

never give up.

 

[Ziggery.com]

it takes lots of money to hand-reg btw- once those renewal fees start hitting it can be challenging for a beginning domainer.

I'll have to jump on this bandwagon and say sorry Essociate, you are incorrect in one sense but correct in another. If you hand reg domains, you flip them so that you have no renewal fees OR if you hand reg in the beginning to keep the domains, then you should know ahead of time that you are going to have fees one year later. I have reg'd more than most this year and have just 25% left, of those, I'll flip those within the next 60 days.

As for hand reg fees, if you spend say $7.00 for a hand reg, you are doing that expecting more than $7 in return, so you don't have to spend a ba-jillion dollars to make some decent cash. If in doubt, reg one domain, sell it, reg one more, sell it, reg one more and so on until you have enough put away to reg say 5 at a time, then don't buy anymore until you sell them all. Its all how you start this business will determine how you move on in this business.


Just thought I'd get my 2.5 cents in here

 

[weblord]

what if you "hit" the jackpot using reg fee only as investment? you can never tell but you need to work on most domains found now, but still "money" has a lot of factors to play on it.

 

[HuntingMoon]

I'll have to jump on this bandwagon and say sorry Essociate, you are incorrect in one sense but correct in another. If you hand reg domains, you flip them so that you have no renewal fees OR if you hand reg in the beginning to keep the domains, then you should know ahead of time that you are going to have fees one year later. I have reg'd more than most this year and have just 25% left, of those, I'll flip those within the next 60 days.

As for hand reg fees, if you spend say $7.00 for a hand reg, you are doing that expecting more than $7 in return, so you don't have to spend a ba-jillion dollars to make some decent cash. If in doubt, reg one domain, sell it, reg one more, sell it, reg one more and so on until you have enough put away to reg say 5 at a time, then don't buy anymore until you sell them all. Its all how you start this business will determine how you move on in this business.


Just thought I'd get my 2.5 cents in here

Nice inspirational post :thumbsup

I am used to seeing 4000+ hand-reg portfolios from individuals who are short on reg fees fyi.

 

[Ziggery.com]

Just to add to this, I started off domaining with $50 in my paypal account, have never used a credit card, and now have 150+ domains and flip about 20 a week.

 

[Sull]

New domainers generally want a "get rich quick" scheme (I refer to this as DN Journal Hypomanic Disorder). There never has been one folks.

Most top generics were regged pre-97. You can look at these guys as super lucky to get such a good name for cheap. I prefer to look at them as having amazing determination to renew these domains for 10+ Years. That's not luck. They could have sold it all these years and chose to hold it until now. Some of the domains regged in the late 80s were near-worthless for an entire decade. Do you have it in you to renew your "worthless" domain for 10 years?

Imo, most of the people here wouldn't be all that much better off even if they had gotten into domaining in 1988 instead of 2008. Who wouldn't cave in to a $10,000 offer from CNET for your TV.com way back in the early-mid 90s before any of your friend even knew what an Internet was? You needed more than luck, you needed more than access to the information -- You needed vision.


Nothing's changed... Many domainers walked away with $10-$100k profit from very small investments in LLLL.coms pre-buyout. Vision. That was November 2007, not all that long ago... There will be more opportunities, there always are and always have been. Hindsight's always 20/20 -- it takes real balls to put your hard earned greenbacks on a hunch, but that's what you're going to need to do to hit it big nowadays.

Is it harder nowadays? Imho, no (coming from someone who's been around for "awhile"). It's never been easier to learn about domaining, there's never been so many domain auctions, conferences, blogs, magazines, press coverage,... Back when I started, there wasn't a Namepros and most people surfed the net with Yahoo, AltaVista, and Webcrawler

And you know what? I made more this year (already) than I ever made back then...

If you make a sound investment in domain names today and hold it for 15 years, you'll most likely make out very well for yourself. With risk comes reward... There isn't as much risk involved in buying an LLL.com today as there was in 2004 when I watched them on eBay go for a nickel on the dollar (this actually isn't a metaphor!).

Past gains have been phenomenal... But since the Bust, it's largely been a compounding effect. LLL.coms didn't go from $500 to $10,000 overnight -- they slowly went higher month by month, year by year. I was certain in '04 that paying $500 for QXZ-LLL.coms was insane! Vision. I didn't see it then -- I see it now.

My advice: Read, read, read. Learn as much as you can about this industry. Whether you choose to develop, handreg, or purchase aftermarket domains, pick a niche and stick to it. Nobody can possibly be an expert in all areas of domaining, so pick a niche and become an expert in that niche.

I was doing some WM work for a library a few years back which had the following inspirational poem on the wall:

The more you read, the more you know.
The more you know, the smarter you grow.
The smarter you grow, the stronger your voice,
When speaking your mind or making your choice. (author: Jim Trelease)

I couldn't agree more. Those are words to live by and certainly reflect my domaining journey...

Slow and steady wins the race. It might "take money to make money", but saying "I can't", "I came too late", "It's too hard", ad infinitum certainly isn't doing anything but creating a negative environment that promotes and encourages failure.

Very well said.

 

[HuntingMoon]

Just to add to this, I started off domaining with $50 in my paypal account, have never used a credit card, and now have 150+ domains and flip about 20 a week.

I just looked at your thread with the gaming domains auction it is obvious you have talent at what you do. http://www.namepros.com/domains-for-sale-auctions/463540-40-domains-1-auction-very-low.html

Hope to do some biz with you in the near future.

 

[Ziggery.com]

Thank you for the comment. I don't believe in hanging on to domains if I can sell them and make a profit AND a domainer has to realize that if he's carry dead weight around, he has to get rid of it, even if its at a loss. Sometimes you have to go backwards to go forwards

Btw, we have done biz before, it was a fast transaction, almost like a drive by domaining :P

 

[onewordonly]

You have to find what works for you and where you can see a profit possible. I prefer to make various opportunities with what is on offer now, like ll-l.com & llll.info etc plus I always like two word generic names.

 

[RogueWriter]

Fourteen and Sixteen years ago, I invested $950 for both of my sons in the stock market. For one son, that has netted a return of $7,000. For the other, the stock fell and is now worth $400.

I'm sort of wishing I had had the foresight to invest $950 in domains 14 years ago, that would surely have done a lot better than -$450!!!

 

[gazzip]

Great post Reece, I'd give you some rep but apparently I'm too fond of you to do so :lol:



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