.mobi One device to keep an eye on, related to .mobi

[skeitel]

Right now or in the coming months, I don't see the sub-par and overpriced Iphone as a real threat for the .mobi concept. Maybe in version 2.0, but not now.
Unlike others, I don't think that the difference is in the technology used, but in the size of the screen and usability of devices. Humans are lazy and they just don't like to force their eyes and scroll too much as they have to do with the Iphone to see a full webpage.

However, have a look at this device
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr63...hp/tech-gadget/intels-prototype-t-swivel-umpc
the size of the screen on this device, its functionality and full keyboard make it much more practical than the Iphone to browse the internet.
If you think it is too big to use as a phone, I can tell you that in the long term, people would carry one of this and use the phone with a bluetooth ear clip as long as they can brag of a real mobile internet experience.

Now say that this device comes to market soon and at a reasonable price...
What do you think?
I would think that if that happens, .mobi would release the limitations and let designers build full-size internet pages within .mobi. t the same time they should start their long awaited massive internet campaign. If not, they risk to become irrelevant, at least in the market where these kind of phones would be adopted first (S Korea, Japan, USA, Europe).
That would mean most .mobi names in English would be worthless overnight.
Now THIS device would be revolutionary, not the Iphone.

Let me know what you think, but please, read this post again if necessary and back up your claims with data or examples, not with wishes.
I like .mobi as much as anybody else but more I'd like to know the real future, even if it would be "painful"

 

[-REECE-]

Right now or in the coming months, I don't see the sub-par and overpriced Iphone as a real threat for the .mobi concept. Maybe in version 2.0, but not now.
Unlike others, I don't think that the difference is in the technology used, but in the size of the screen and usability of devices. Humans are lazy and they just don't like to force their eyes and scroll too much as they have to do with the Iphone to see a full webpage.

However, have a look at this device
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr63...hp/tech-gadget/intels-prototype-t-swivel-umpc
the size of the screen on this device, its functionality and full keyboard make it much more practical than the Iphone to browse the internet.
If you think it is too big to use as a phone, I can tell you that in the long term, people would carry one of this and use the phone with a bluetooth ear clip as long as they can brag of a real mobile internet experience.

Now say that this device comes to market soon and at a reasonable price...
What do you think?
I would think that if that happens, .mobi would release the limitations and let designers build full-size internet pages within .mobi. t the same time they should start their long awaited massive internet campaign. If not, they risk to become irrelevant, at least in the market where these kind of phones would be adopted first (S Korea, Japan, USA, Europe).
That would mean most .mobi names in English would be worthless overnight.
Now THIS device would be revolutionary, not the Iphone.

Let me know what you think, but please, read this post again if necessary and back up your claims with data or examples, not with wishes.
I like .mobi as much as anybody else but more I'd like to know the real future, even if it would be "painful"

I've been warning about comparable devices (www.dynamism.com) for a good 3 months now. They're out there, and IMO, will one day be the device of choice for everyone. That will necessitate considerably longer battery life, inclusion of cellular technology, dramatic reductions in price, coupled with sizes comparable to high end cell phones. IMO, this is definitely less than 10 years away... I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever to see this happen 5+ years down the road.

 

[DomainMayhem.com]

I would think that if that happens, .mobi would release the limitations and let designers build full-size internet pages within .mobi. At the same time they should start their long awaited massive internet campaign. If not, they risk to become irrelevant, at least in the market where these kind of phones would be adopted first (S Korea, Japan, USA, Europe).
That would mean most .mobi names in English would be worthless overnight.
Now THIS device would be revolutionary, not the Iphone.

Maybe they are waiting to see in what way .mobi will need to change to stay relevant before launching the campaign?

 

[skeitel]

I've been warning about comparable devices (www.dynamism.com) for a good 3 months now. this is definitely less than 10 years away... I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever to see this happen 5+ years down the road.

I bet you they'll be here in less than 5 years Reece. We already have the 100 dollar computers. Reducing price, extending battery life...that can be done relatively easily if the market shows that it wants to go in that direction.
I am sure the Nokia people are well aware of this prototype and already working on it...
Thanks for your feedback!

Maybe they are waiting to see in what way .mobi will need to change to stay relevant before launching the campaign?

Wow. That's an interesting piece of lateral thinking that you did! It is a shame that we don't have more information about their future plans...but what you say could somehow make sense.
Some people think that the mltd are a bit of idiots and don't know what they're doing. But I resist to believe that. I think they're quite smart and must know soooo much better than us what they're doing...in fact, if .mobi will be default, I have the impression that they've all decided that already a long time ago.
But I have no proof of what I am saying...
Thanks for feedback!

 

[BrainPower]

yea, these phones.. wow, its like the changes we'd like to make to the iphone are in those gadgets at dynamism.com. Has anyone ever bought a phone through them? The Nokia N95 Looks sweet.

 

[binaryman]

And have a look at this concept scroll phone.
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/on-the-horizon/ancient-scroll-cellphone-concept-273002.php

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/flexible-oled-display-153252.php

 

[-REECE-]

yea, these phones.. wow, its like the changes we'd like to make to the iphone are in those gadgets at dynamism.com. Has anyone ever bought a phone through them? The Nokia N95 Looks sweet.

They're 100% legit, however you're better off trying to find the product you like on ebay, or using a contact in Japan (try seeing if pricejapan.com can get one for you). Dynamism is "the name" in Japanese imports and you pay for it.

 

[garrett200]

I'm thinking that by the time these things become mainstream, .mobi will have already been accepted by the public. And, mTLD HAVE to know about this, and hopefully thinking of ways to make .mobi stay relevant. HOPEFULLY being the operative word...

 

[-REECE-]

I'm thinking that by the time these things become mainstream, .mobi will have already been accepted by the public. And, mTLD HAVE to know about this, and hopefully thinking of ways to make .mobi stay relevant. HOPEFULLY being the operative word...

Taking the N95 as an example... It currently has the same problem as the iPhone -- it's price tag. There's obviously a market for expensive phones -- Vertu (www.vertu.com) has proven that. But this thing needs to be halved in price, at a minimum, IMO before we'll see mainstream adoptance.

Kind of like LCD's and plasmas when they first came to the market... Because so few people are buying them, it takes longer for prices to trickle down. Likewise, as more and more people start to buy them, the price will crash faster and faster as the increased demand allows them to take smaller profit margins while still maintaining profitability. Taking plasma tvs as an example, most of the big manufacturers have only been in the market 4-5 years, tops. And yet today plasma and lcd tvs are everywhere. I don't see cell phones being any different.

Like some have said before, however -- will people be able to get over the screen size issue. If people aren't comfortable browsing the web on a 4 inch screen (as a max), .mobi may be needed forever. Either way, .mobi should have long established itself by the time technology may outdate it, unless our corporate backers fall asleep on us :zzz:

 

[dgridley]

Very cool.. I'd mentioned such a concept in another post earlier.. struck me aftrt I'd seen something similar in the movie Red Planet.. that's something I could definitely see being useful! In 10 years time, I don't think we'll even recognize computing as it is today.

And have a look at this concept scroll phone.
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/on-the-horizon/ancient-scroll-cellphone-concept-273002.php

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/flexible-oled-display-153252.php

 

[garrett200]

2012 happens in 5 years, life as we know it may change forever. I guess that would include computing too.

 

[skeitel]

unless our corporate backers fall asleep on us :zzz:

That's the worrying bit of the equation.

 

[dgridley]

I would bet more on the fact that we'll enjoy normal advances in technology, rather than see an end to it due to anything occurring in 2012 (remember the Y2K scare :zzz: )

On the other hand, I'd thought we'd see some practical applications using sonofusion by now ever since I first heard of it and .. nadda! Maybe yer cell phone batteries will someday be powered by bubbles! (Not to get off topic here)

2012 happens in 5 years, life as we know it may change forever. I guess that would include computing too.

 

[VisionEdger]

tech

Taking the N95 as an example... It currently has the same problem as the iPhone -- it's price tag. There's obviously a market for expensive phones -- Vertu (www.vertu.com) has proven that. But this thing needs to be halved in price, at a minimum, IMO before we'll see mainstream adoptance.

Kind of like LCD's and plasmas when they first came to the market... Because so few people are buying them, it takes longer for prices to trickle down. Likewise, as more and more people start to buy them, the price will crash faster and faster as the increased demand allows them to take smaller profit margins while still maintaining profitability. Taking plasma tvs as an example, most of the big manufacturers have only been in the market 4-5 years, tops. And yet today plasma and lcd tvs are everywhere. I don't see cell phones being any different.

Like some have said before, however -- will people be able to get over the screen size issue. If people aren't comfortable browsing the web on a 4 inch screen (as a max), .mobi may be needed forever. Either way, .mobi should have long established itself by the time technology may outdate it, unless our corporate backers fall asleep on us :zzz:

As reece notably states as an example plasma and lcd tvs took a few years to come down in price. The initial release costs of such products tend to be much higher since the manufacturers must recoup tooling costs etc then as demand grows by educating the public sales take off and the unit price drops.

The same will be for mobile units. The .mobi ext was created to fill a need. Its not some throw away ext that people wont use. Its viable for what its designed for.

I would bet more on the fact that we'll enjoy normal advances in technology, rather than see an end to it due to anything occurring in 2012 (remember the Y2K scare :zzz: )

On the other hand, I'd thought we'd see some practical applications using sonofusion by now ever since I first heard of it and .. nadda! Maybe yer cell phone batteries will someday be powered by bubbles! (Not to get off topic here)

Batteries in the near future will be instant charging. No plug in and wait time. not lithium style. batteries made from hydrogen / methanol. allows also for product design changes to accomodate larger screens keyboards etc.