discuss .O Discussion

[Armageddon]

Managed by independent members of the community OpenNIC
Any opinion
Right now are for reg. at Epik.com
I don't know if other registrar ofer for registration .O
Notice also already few of them sold on Namepros
Any idea how to be setup on/for VPN to add content ?
Personal i reg. few among them: Mexic.o, Tatto.o , Cong.o , Audi.o , Radi.o , SanFrancisc.o &
Toky.o - for 2021
Show here your registration & your opinion or any info

Kind regards,
Ovi

 

[jamie white]

It is not Epiks fault if you do not research what you are buying, Thats Domaining 101. Also, you can not add VPN domains to Sedo, Afternic, Dan etc

 

[Rammbo]

But that was after you purchased, Registrars should be fair enough to say that before, isn't it?

Yes, I agree. But for me I did not purchase all of them at once. I made more than one purchase. I should have read the emails after the first purchase.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

They are exactly like .coin, .bit, .geek, etc.....

Yes, although to prevent confusion, want to add that .bit was dropped by OpenNIC due to flagrant misuse of the extension, allegedly, according to this article.

Re doing your own homework, totally agree.

In many ways Epik have better transparency on many things - e.g. their pricing page. When you hover over the little i just before registration. it shows you what the various pricing will be, so you are not tricked into thinking that the domain name renewal is necessarily the same as what you are paying (for .o it is the same).

I would think either there, or somewhere else obvious, having a link to the OpenNIC page with an indication that this is an alternative domain space would be advisable and sufficient.

Bob

 

[web3dev]

It is not Epiks fault if you do not research what you are buying, Thats Domaining 101. Also, you can not add VPN domains to Sedo, Afternic, Dan etc

So it's taken for granted whoever purchases a domain is an expert about domain names? Most end users hardly know about all this stuff.
I am not against alternate domains and support decentralisation. But I should be given the proper information to choose something knowing what it is. If I like I opt, if not I don't.

 

[jamie white]

Yes, I agree. But for me I did not purchase all of them at once. I made more than one purchase. I should have read the emails after the first purchase.

If only more people did that ^^^ Acknowledge there own mistakes. The world be a better place.
Awesome @Rammbo take not put the whole of the fault on Epik. But to take it yourself.

 

[jamie white]

So it's taken for granted whoever purchases a domain is an expert about domain names? Most end users hardly know about all this stuff.
I am not against alternate domains and support decentralisation. But I should be given the proper information to choose something knowing what it is. If I like I opt, if not I don't.

I am saying, if you are a domainer, and have been doing so for 6+ Months. It is common sense to research the TLD if you have never seen it. Instead, you want to rush into something and when it doesn't turn out like you expected, blame the registrar? How much sense does that make? My opinion is, if you DO NOT do research on something YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT, and you purchase it anyway, IT IS YOUR OWN FAULT. as well as those "End-buyers". Do you really think 90% of them are going to pay 1000s of dollars on something they haven't done research on?

 

[jamie white]

@ikhub and i am not saying "You" as in "You - yourself" i mean by domainers or people in general. i wanted to clarify the "You" i was referring

 

[web3dev]

I am saying, if you are a domainer, and have been doing so for 6+ Months. It is common sense to research the TLD if you have never seen it. Instead, you want to rush into something and when it doesn't turn out like you expected, blame the registrar? How much sense does that make? My opinion is, if you DO NOT do research on something YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT, and you purchase it anyway, IT IS YOUR OWN FAULT. as well as those "End-buyers". Do you really think 90% of them are going to pay 1000s of dollars on something they haven't done research on?

So as a domainer I should not trust my registrar anymore and do my own research because the registrar can pass on me an alt domain without informing me?

 

[dirk]

An alt domain is not a domain in the sense that 99.999% of the people know domains. So yeah, it is a registrars duty to inform you or stop selling that stuff all together. They shouldn't even be listing those 'TLDs' when you perform a domain search in the first place.

It's 100% misleading when there are thousands of new extensions.

@Bob Hawkes pointed out some issues with the .o tos. Here's another beauty:

"Use of this TLD is not a given right to any holder, and domain names may be revoked by the mTLD administration team or by a vote of domain holders (henceforth known as “Members”), especially pertaining to violations of our policies (see Section 2)."

Like Bob mentioned, not sure if that's better than ICANN and kinda defeats the purpose of alt domains. they're ment to be 'unstoppable', like .crypto.

 

[dirk]

So these 'fun tlds' are all opennic. If I recall correctly their wholesale pricing to register a domain is... $0.

Anybody knows more about this? Signed up. Their verification link fails me and their website (.o 'registry') moderntld.com isn't loading as well.

Would love to check what registrars are selling this and how they justify a $5 pricetag.

 

[dirk]

@Mod Team Alfa @Mod Team Bravo

Eversince at least one registrar started offering opennic 'tlds' I've read about multiple people getting suckered in.

Will Namepros continue to allow these names being offered alongside the real deal? Where do we draw the line? We have rules for IDN domains, how about alt TLDs?

 

[Grilled]

[December 2nd, 2010]

https://www.techjunkie.com/how-to-get-free-opennic-domain-names/

These are the TLDs currently available through OpenNIC for free registration:

• .bbs
• .free
• .fur
• .geek
• .gopher
• .indy
• .ing
• .null
• .oss
• .micro
• .parody

If you want to see one of these in action, I registered one myself: http://rich.geek. If you have OpenNIC’s DNS servers loaded in, that site will work.

The domain [rich.geek] that the author [nik] stated he registered [quoted above], appears to be available for reg at epik; assuming it wasn't renewed?

Not sure if it was already mentioned, but what year did .o launch? I don't see it mentioned in the above mentioned 2010 TechJunkie article.

 

[jamie white]

https://registrar.epik.com/prices/registration/alt

Alt TLDs are designed to run across networks that support the Anonymize.com DNS resolver. The Anomyize.com DNS resolver can be accessed in three ways:

• 1. The free Anonymize.com VPN
• 2. The free Anonymize.com Secure DNS resolver
• 3. Through partner APIs

For more information about Alt TLDs, or to partner with us, contact us at [email protected] and we will be happy to advise.

That is Epiks price list for the VPNs. It CLEARLY states what they are.

 

[alcy]

What is not viable? be more specific

well if you disagree that it is not viable, then you can also add why you think its viable in your response, no?

 

[cipcip]

To have all these opennic domains work, install for Chrome or Firefox the addon for free from https://blockchain-dns.info/

Afterwards, you can type in your address bar for example: nx.bit/ and you will show the domain. The Anonymize stuff is just advertisement form Epik to buy that feature as well. I have received the same email from Epik when registering my .geek

Do not forget to add a trailing slash or http:// in front, or else Google Chrome will search google.

 

[Paul]

Really now do you know where other can be register ?

You can most likely register .o domains for free by simply emailing the TLD operator, as with most OpenNIC TLDs. It's a bit of a pain; you won't even be able to change your nameservers via a website. Everything has to be handled manually by the one person who runs the TLD. I assume Epik is essentially charging a convenience fee.

I believe .o is run by Jonah Aragon. The easiest way to reach them is probably the OpenNIC IRC channel. Jonah also pops into the OpenNIC Discord server from time to time, though I haven't seen him in a while.

 

[Grilled]

[January 2015]

@good_weird http://reg.for.free is down while a replacement server is being set up.

— OpenNIC (@OpenNIC) January 20, 2015

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[December 2016]

Re: [opennic-discuss] Important: reg.for.free, and thus .geek and .indy signups unavailable

https://lists.opennicproject.org/sympa/arc/discuss/2016-12/msg00232.html

 

[Paul]

[January 2015]

@good_weird http://reg.for.free is down while a replacement server is being set up.

— OpenNIC (@OpenNIC) January 20, 2015

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[December 2016]

Re: [opennic-discuss] Important: reg.for.free, and thus .geek and .indy signups unavailable

https://lists.opennicproject.org/sympa/arc/discuss/2016-12/msg00232.html

There's never really been a consistent, streamlined way to register or manage OpenNIC domains. Historically, it has essentially be run by enthusiasts, albeit in a relatively formal manner. I've always thought it was a cool project, but I think most participants never really expected it to see widespread use. It's cool to see mainstream registrars and investors taking an interest; just keep in mind that the usual caveats for such projects apply. Sometimes they take off--like Bitcoin did. Usually they don't.

Investing aside, OpenNIC is a cool project. Regardless of you opinions on alternative TLDs, it's worth reading more about them.

 

[biggie]

this reminds me of the old "new.net" extension that was hyped by Registerfly.com

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New.net

imo...

 

[dirk]

Investing aside, OpenNIC is a cool project. Regardless of you opinions on alternative TLDs, it's worth reading more about them.

I agree. Seems to be more of a hobbyist/geek thing . The tech is nice.

The question is though, should these 'domains' be allowed to be advertised over here as being domains? or should they have their own category or be categorised as services?

It's not like it's a new thing. opennic has been around for over a decade if I'm not mistaken.

Like you said, regardless of how you feel about them, I see people falling for the newly started hype here on NP and especially new members/domainers are vulnerable to this. I think as a community we have the obligation to be as transparent as possible about this.

Someone mentioned earlier he regged 29? 39? Domains without realizing what they are. Even at $2,99 a pop that's a fair amount of money wasted.