Not enough exposure on Flippa?

[LoneDeranger]

Hi guys,

I'm using Flippa's listing service now and listed (standard 9$ listing) domains for about 5 times so far. Problem is, it feels like there is not enough exposure. In average, there are 30 views per 7-days auction with BIN price. Considering the fact that flippa suggests tons of listing options for extra cash, I'm thinking that I do something wrong so I opened this discussion in order to understand my mistakes.

Guide questions :
1. Do you use flippa's service at all?
2. If so, which listing type do you use when you are listing domains?
3. Do you think their service worth the 9$ I invest each listing?
4. How do you maximize the views of your listing?

Let us have a fine discussion. Thanks in advance!

 

[LoneDeranger]

Anyone?

 

[rayasa]

With Flippa, you get what you pay for, for a good name. I've listed regular $9 listings on flippa a few times without success. No doubt they do have a good buying crowd that can spend. To leverage that potential, however, you have to spend on upgrades with steep price tags. Only very savvy buyers skim through regular listings trying to find names for a deal price. As for the rest, its out of sight, out of mind.

To answer your third question, I think the $9 listing is only worth if your name already has a guaranteed demand - like a pronounceable premium 4L .com or a dictionary one word .com in a strong niche. And yet, there are always exceptions

 

[Archangel]

Flippa isn't for most domains. A regfee-$20 domain won't do well there. Keep that in mind.

That said: the upgrades are worth it--if your domain warrants it. Just yesterday, I closed a $3,000+ sale from Flippa, from an upgrade. The auction had about 6,000 views,150 watchers, and 119 bids. But if you have a really poor domain, well, it likely won't sell at all.You'll just have to think and decide on whether it warrants an upgrade

 

[LoneDeranger]

With Flippa, you get what you pay for, for a good name. I've listed regular $9 listings on flippa a few times without success. No doubt they do have a good buying crowd that can spend. To leverage that potential, however, you have to spend on upgrades with steep price tags. Only very savvy buyers skim through regular listings trying to find names for a deal price. As for the rest, its out of sight, out of mind.

To answer your third question, I think the $9 listing is only worth if your name already has a guaranteed demand - like a pronounceable premium 4L .com or a dictionary one word .com in a strong niche. And yet, there are always exceptions

I understand. Your words sort of confirmed a theory I was thinking about. Sadly I really can't tell if upgrades are worth for a specific domain I own..

Flippa isn't for most domains. A regfee-$20 domain won't do well there. Keep that in mind.

That said: the upgrades are worth it--if your domain warrants it. Just yesterday, I closed a $3,000+ sale from Flippa, from an upgrade. The auction had about 6,000 views,150 watchers, and 119 bids. But if you have a really poor domain, well, it likely won't sell at all.You'll just have to think and decide on whether it warrants an upgrade

Congrats on the sale ! Marked your words and internalized. Thanks.

 

[FPForum]

I agree with what some of the others have said.. If you're going to sell anything on Flippa it needs to be of some decent quality. Websites and domains don't sell as easily as they used to because there are so many people listing these days. Even some of their upgrades aren't really worth the money (once again, unless you have something good to sell)

I've found that websites for sale (which is the only things they initially sold back in the day) on there get more views than domain auctions too.

 

[mad409]

Try small new startup alternatives, sure you'll need to link and promote but at least you're not getiing lost in the tundra of some of the other sites, much cheaper.

 

[Beezy]

Try small new startup alternatives, sure you'll need to link and promote but at least you're not getiing lost in the tundra of some of the other sites, much cheaper.

Like who?

 

[Beezy]

I used their premium listing once when they offered it for $99 in an email promo and those first few hours on the front page list really contributed to getting more watchers.

But I just did the math in another thread, if your domain sells for less than $3500 you are paying over 20% (10% final price and $349 premium listing fee). So determine if your name is the right fit before going for it.

Also, are you promoting the auction to possible end user and other places?

 

[LoneDeranger]

I used their premium listing once when they offered it for $99 in an email promo and those first few hours on the front page list really contributed to getting more watchers.

But I just did the math in another thread, if your domain sells for less than $3500 you are paying over 20% (10% final price and $349 premium listing fee). So determine if your name is the right fit before going for it.

Also, are you promoting the auction to possible end user and other places?

Actually, I haven't. What do you mean by "other places"?

 

[Beezy]

Actually, I haven't. What do you mean by "other places"?

Anywhere!

I mean, it's an auction...you want interested parties there bidding against each other.

But to be more specific, I am putting up a domain soon that is 3 letters that are a popular acronym fthat computer programmers use, and it would be an impressive domain to own for them. So I'm going to be advertising the auction anywhere computer programmers hang out.

Forums, newsgroups, email lists, asking thought leaders in that space to tweet it out for me, exchanging 1% of profits even for a tweet in some cases with big influencers.

Searching on google. Finding people who own similar websites who might be interested and emailing them.

That's just scratching the surface. Email signatures. Forum signatures. Every view could be another bid.

Get creative.

 

[LoneDeranger]

Anywhere!

I mean, it's an auction...you want interested parties there bidding against each other.

But to be more specific, I am putting up a domain soon that is 3 letters that are a popular acronym fthat computer programmers use, and it would be an impressive domain to own for them. So I'm going to be advertising the auction anywhere computer programmers hang out.

Forums, newsgroups, email lists, asking thought leaders in that space to tweet it out for me, exchanging 1% of profits even for a tweet in some cases with big influencers.

Searching on google. Finding people who own similar websites who might be interested and emailing them.

That's just scratching the surface. Email signatures. Forum signatures. Every view could be another bid.

Get creative.

That's a great idea, thanks!

 

[Beezy]

That's a great idea, thanks!

2 things:
1. don't be spammy.
2. take a look around the community you are going to promote in to get a vibe and respect their rules. if you do this, they will be much more open to helping you and may even suggest end users. But your goal is to build up allies, not turn people off.
Oh, a third thing - sell the dream.

 

[Sukhvir-Singh]

Hello Friend,

Here are my answers:

1. Do you use flippa's service at all?
Yes I do.
2. If so, which listing type do you use when you are listing domains?

• Mostly normal listing ($9). Thats too from appraising 15 domains a week and I list mostly 1 worthy domain per week.
• The other best option is

Homepage ($49) OR
Newsletter for website/app and domain buyers, sent to over 150,000 of our Flippa users. ($149)

• or for more great results - Apply both.These above are the most effective among all.

Best is Showcase listing (Top three) if your domain is highly demanding.

3. Do you think their service worth the 9$ I invest each listing?

That again depends upon the Quality of domain name. Everyone loves his domains but need to applause by public that is important.
What I do in $9 listing that I will place always NO RESERVE but with some value that I think my domain will such value. Like $199 NO RESERVE.
Whats the benefit in this tact- If your auction ends without BID your can relist it for FREE.
In both ways its WIN-WIN situation. If one put the BID you sell it and if not re-list it.

4. How do you maximize the views of your listing?

• Through my - Facebook groups having domainers, resellers, niches related.

• Through my twitter profile that have 5K+ real followers that mostly have domain projected people.

• Through forums, niche related websites or forums.

Hope this helps you and everyone!

 

[HeyNow]

Hi guys,

I'm using Flippa's listing service now and listed (standard 9$ listing) domains for about 5 times so far. Problem is, it feels like there is not enough exposure. In average, there are 30 views per 7-days auction with BIN price. Considering the fact that flippa suggests tons of listing options for extra cash, I'm thinking that I do something wrong so I opened this discussion in order to understand my mistakes.

Guide questions :
1. Do you use flippa's service at all?
2. If so, which listing type do you use when you are listing domains?
3. Do you think their service worth the 9$ I invest each listing?
4. How do you maximize the views of your listing?

Let us have a fine discussion. Thanks in advance!

1) No, not at all. Never would.
2) ------
3) No, not worth it.
4) By starting my own "For Sale" pages for my domains. Fewer views, but each view is a quality view.

And one more note: If my names don't sell with my method, I'm not out an additional $9 or more.

 

[Archangel]

The best thing would be to look for potential endusers first, on your own. Like stated above, you're really paying about 20% if you choose to use a $349 upgrade. But many places charge that or close. GoDaddy can take a staggering 30% for their premium services while companies like Brandroot or Brandbucket could wind up with 40%. I think SEDO is 15% these days... can't recall.

(The 40% is applicable if your domain sells somewhat cheap. If you sell a $1000 domain on BR, agreeing to pay $100 for a designer, they'll take 40% out.Ouch.)

But if you can't at the least sell it to an enduser on your own steam, it wouldn't hurt to pay Flippa a bit (or a lot) to put something on an upgrade. 20% is still pretty steep so watch out.

ON the other hand, they offer a free escrow. So paying a flat 20% for their services really isn't terrible.

 

[LoneDeranger]

The best thing would be to look for potential endusers first, on your own. Like stated above, you're really paying about 20% if you choose to use a $349 upgrade. But many places charge that or close. GoDaddy can take a staggering 30% for their premium services while companies like Brandroot or Brandbucket could wind up with 40%. I think SEDO is 15% these days... can't recall.

(The 40% is applicable if your domain sells somewhat cheap. If you sell a $1000 domain on BR, agreeing to pay $100 for a designer, they'll take 40% out.Ouch.)

But if you can't at the least sell it to an enduser on your own steam, it wouldn't hurt to pay Flippa a bit (or a lot) to put something on an upgrade. 20% is still pretty steep so watch out.

ON the other hand, they offer a free escrow. So paying a flat 20% for their services really isn't terrible.

Thank you for the comment. Can you tell how much an escrow service will charge?

 

[biggie]

when one doesn't know if they are getting value for the $9, and they don't know if the $9 hand-reg has value, then who benefits? it makes no sense.

in that situation, only flippa and godaddy, are making cents

try learning how to sell without paying a fee to list, second.

first, learn what to buy.

imo....

 

[LoneDeranger]

when one doesn't know if they are getting value for the $9, and they don't know if the $9 hand-reg has value, then who benefits? it makes no sense.

in that situation, only flippa and godaddy, are making cents

try learning how to sell without paying a fee to list, second.

first, learn what to buy.

imo....

Haha i love your comments!
So brutal, so merciless, so MAD!

Thanks for the reply, I think there is a point in what you are saying.. BUT I was only talking about the exposure aspect, not the worth in total. I mean, its possible for a good domain to have no views, right?

 

[Beezy]

Haha i love your comments!
So brutal, so merciless, so MAD!

Thanks for the reply, I think there is a point in what you are saying.. BUT I was only talking about the exposure aspect, not the worth in total. I mean, its possible for a good domain to have no views, right?

It's LIKELY for a $9 listing fee domain to have no views on there. Most people aren't just randomly browsing the thousands of domains on flippa. It's becoming a saturated market very quickly.

The $9 won't get you exposure. It will get you an auction which is a format that, if the name is good, can drive up prices by creating competition.

(I've only listed maybe 2 domains on there for $9 and they both got 4-5 watchers naturally).