NOOB question about pagerank domains. Your help is appreciated.

[hosterbuddy]

Hey every one,

I searched through the threads for a while before posting this but couldn't find anything that answered my question.

If I buy a PR5 domain name and it is pushed over to me and then I push it over to some one else, does the PR5 status go away in the process or does it stay with the domain.

I have a client who is looking to buy a hand full of PR domain names and I have found some for cheap.

An answer to this question and any elaboration on how PR is conserved and lost would be greatly appreciated.



Thanks,
Mark McCoy

 

[mrjohn]

Wow, PageRank is a contentious topic. Let's cover what it is and isn't, first . . .

1. PageRank isn't the end-all of domaining. Not by a long shot.

2. PageRank is purely a tally of the value of all the inbounds links a page receives. And nothing more.

3. PageRank doesn't measure anything besides links divided by the total # of links on those pages linking to you.

4. PageRank can be easily faked.

5. The fakes can be easily detected. Just check in Yahoo site explorer for the number of inlinks from other sites. If it seems like a really low number for a high PR, then that's a clue.

I'd suspect a general poll of domainers would end with them badly beating up the value of PageRank. PageRank does not mean real traffic. In theory, a site could have a PR of 9 and see only a tricle of visitors. PR is not proportional to traffic, and it is not proportional to sales. It is only proportional to inbound links (well, actually it's a Markov number, which is like a Fibonacci number made a really ugly and extremely dumb baby with an L-system).

Except for link farmers and noobs, there aren't a ton of people who are deeply married to PR.

My best advice would be to look for high CPC domains in Google Adwords.

https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

As to preservation . . .

I've been researching PR for a couple years, and I am now convinced that it only cares about valid, inbound links. I did a drop catch of a site linked from a couple political site pages in December. The site was completely deleted, but those inlinks were still alive. I picked it up and the next PR update it went right back to PR3.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

PR domains are usually fool's gold.

But no, the PR won't be reset with a change in ownership.

 

[enlytend]

5. The fakes can be easily detected. Just check in Yahoo site explorer for the number of inlinks from other sites. If it seems like a really low number for a high PR, then that's a clue.

If the number is low, take a look at the sites - it *could* be legit, because all it takes is one really good link passing all of a page's link juice. My site used to have a PR5 home page thanks to being the only live link on a PR6 software resource page (of which I was the editor) on a high profile site.

Toolbar pagerank WILL degrade if and when backlinks disappear.

PR domains are usually fool's gold.

Ditto that.

 

[mrjohn]

Toolbar pagerank WILL degrade if and when backlinks disappear.

+1

I like to wait out deletes. If, after three months, the links are still live, it's a fair bet the original authors are asleep at the wheel and those links will be there as long as the site is registered. You lose domains this way, but the ones you get are more dependable to keep their PR.

 

[John Baron]

mrjohn ...very nice explaining ! Rep + !

 

[mhdoc]

Toolbar pagerank WILL degrade if and when backlinks disappear.

It works the other way too. I had one I bought with PR a couple years ago and it went up one in the latest update.