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NGTLD can stand for Next Gen TLD

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  1. NameLlama

    NameLlama Upgraded Member Gold Account

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    Or NTLDs can stand for NaturalTLD, since they"re natural language, rather than unnatural .Com
    Since they are no longer New phenomenon, they are not to be called New.
    So they shouldn't call these NewTLDs now. Instead call these NaturalTLDs; NextGenTLDs.
     
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  2. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO ICA Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I am pretty sure the vast majority of the general public doesn't even know what "TLD" or "GTLD" stands for, so anything is possible.

    I don't think the terminology is really what is holding them back, but I agree with the core premise that they are no longer "new" though.

    Brad
     
  3. EbookLover

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    I like "Next gen" better than "natural".

    Next Gen sounds better for trying to sell them to end users who don't have a clue, really. Next Gen sounds more of a positive marketing term than "New Generic".

    Not sure it matters a whole lot, though. Not at this point in time. But it is my belief that some of these ngtlds will start being more mainstream at some point. Many will probably go belly up, too.

    .company? .accountant? Those are silly IMHO. Too long. What's next? .business2business? .gastroenterologistappointments? :xf.rolleyes:

    I would just buy a premium .COM for my business over these long-arse TLDs
     
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  4. garptrader

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    For those bashing legacy extensions, next gen makes more sense. I have a six-year old Amazon tablet which I still use for reading books but it's functionality is limited compared to the newer and larger tablets I bought in the last couple years. I would never refer to my six-year old tablet as new. Well, I would not even forever to my two-year old tablet as new. Perhaps the less than six-month old tablet might qualify.
     
  5. garptrader

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    I believe there should be some distinction made between generic extensions such as .xyz that are not even words and those which logically make sense after the word which precedes it (.club) perhaps another category should exist for extensions such as .top which do not make sense at the end of a phrase (top 10 college football team or top 20 business schools)

    Despite dropping many, I still have .net and .tv domains in my portfolio. But the report of a five figure .org sale or a five figure .CO sale is irrelevant to my portfolio. Likewise since many Ntld investors do not hold registry reserved . Top domains they should not be lumping sales of those domains into their reporting.
     
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  6. Bob Hawkes

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    I like Next Generation that @EbookLover suggested but I doubt that ICANN would ever change the official name for new gTLDs. It is almost always bad to use new in a name - in Canada one of our major political parties is called the New Democratic Party. They renamed to that in 1961, so the new is feeling a little old!

    I agree with @bmugford that most don't know what TLD stands for let alone ngTLD. In many ways, we can informally refer to them as we want in any case, so if we want to informally refer to them as Next Generation (whatever you want for TLD meaning) just like me can either refer to the country abbreviation or the word me.

    While I tend to agree with @garptrader that a distinction between generic and word specific makes sense, I know from once having tried to do lists, it is really hard in some cases to distinguish. Still the idea has merit since for the generic ones the match does not matter (same as .com we don't really look at match of word and .com) while for others the most important thing is the match across the dot.

    Re whether an extension makes sense with order, I don't agree that it is as simple as .top do not make sense at end of phrase. That is true that for nouns the .top at end is reversed from normal order. But for example I see that GoTo.top recently sold (NB listed). For that the order is perfect. I sold a verb followed by a .top where the order made sense, and there are many other sales with sensible order, as well as sales of reversed ones. In any case I disagree with distinction on order as that would be hopeless to try to decide universally in my opinion.

    Bob
     
  7. garptrader

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    The idea of Miami.condos sounded pretty neat until I looked at the renewal rates. For an end user no big deal.
     
  8. Internet.Domains

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    Let's not move ahead of ourselves, the word "premium" in relation to domains should be defined before the NewG's are renamed.
     
  9. Bob Hawkes

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    Now that is impossible. I think that the simplest is to ban the use of the word! :xf.wink:

    Or to define it as any domain name being sold for more than standard registration cost, which would make it all for sale (almost).

    I really think we should go to a world where no renewals are premium, cause otherwise it is too confusing. Take the big price once only, using lease or payments to spread out if you like, but registries don't confuse the system that some have premium renewals and some do not.

    Bob
     
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    New bTLD stands for blockchain Top-Level Domain
     
  11. lolwarrior

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    Not bad idea to call then NextGen :) But I think most settled name so far is new gTLDs (new general top level domains), which is pretty technical for most end users, so it would be pretty cool imo if we could call them just NextGen!
     
  12. MrAcidic

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    there is always a "next gen" so at least it will never go out of fashion :xf.smile: and would stay relevant.....
     
  13. kriss05

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    I like "Natural TLDs" idea. It was circulated already in media, including Rick Schwartz's blog.
     
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    Next generation TLD sounds very good as they are indeed the result of progresss
    Natural TLD too as they are indeed descriptiveee
    Both formulations are great "alternatives" in question regarding for which the "N" could stand.

    But in comparison to the old gener(ation)ic TLD .com they are still the new gener(ation)ic TLDs in my viewww


    However, I actually prefer to just say TLD because that's always trueee

    And if I speak about the TLD
    .top I say the world's #1 new TLD or the world's top TLD.
     
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  15. Bob Hawkes

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    Of course ICANN use Next Gen wording for something else (encouraging domain interest and use in developing regions such as Africa), so there is no chance that the official wording will change to that in this case.
     
  16. Fancy.domains

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    There are so many extensions now, so in a few years I guess we will just call them by their official names: gTLDs, ccTLDs and maybe sTLDs (Sponsored top-level domain).

    As there are so many extensions, maybe .com, .net .org etc will be called “classic gTLDs” or similar, instead of the other way around.
     
  17. johnnie018

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    How are they next gen?. The technology is not different to extensions from 1985.

    The term next-gen means a major upgrade and these new tlds certainly aren't that.

    Imagine trying to explain to someone why .net is old-gen and .web is next-gen? The actual different is one is new the other isn't, that is why Icann calls them new gtlds and nothing more than that.

    Stop trying to put this new tld crap on a pedestal!
     
  18. NameLlama

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    OK
    Nincompoops' GarbageTLDs to make johnnie happy
     
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  19. HotKey

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    "next-gen domains" gets my vote. Not sure how it will catch for those in the industry, still would prefer to use new gTLDs or new G's or whatnot myself for places like on NP. But for some flavour to your site or landers, I think potential buyers would connect with the term a lot better.
     
  20. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent VIP

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    I must say that I like the sound of next generation a lot as well, and of course no matter what the official name is, we can use that expression in marketing them if we choose to do so.

    On one hand what you call something does not matter, but in another it does. I remember hearing at a conference once someone who had unsuccessfully submitted multiple funding requests for an educational innovation. Then he came up with a clever acronym and used that and was successful in a huge foundation grant and adoption at many other places. Sometimes what you call something matters. I guess that last statement is obvious to those whose business is domain names! :xf.wink:

    Bob
     
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  21. garptrader

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    What is so special about .xyz to make it next gen? How is it better than .net or .info?

    Or take a more descriptive extension like .club. Which sounds better as a brand?
    Miami.tv or Miami.club
    Soccer.tv. or Soccer.club
    RealEstate.tv or RealEstate.club
     
  22. Bob Hawkes

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    I agree, you make a good point. We have the problem that applying any label to more than 500 GA new gTLDs is difficult.

    I think the only possible answer would be that .net and .info are both English language words in a globe that increasingly has business growth in regions with other languages. Also, it could be argued that it is more generic and possibly better than.info as useful for reference sites but not restricted to reference sites.

    I think the place that the alternative legacy and the new gTLDs both went seriously astray was not requiring some degree of application of the meaning of the extension to those that use it.

    Re your other lists, I find that both look great. If I have a club in Miami of course that makes sense, where if I have a local TV station the other. I see both as totally great, for the right application. One might argue that club has more potential end users but TV has higher value potential end user, perhaps. It is certainly arguable, but I might make the case that both of them, for the right end users, might be more appropriate than the .com or .xyz since the extension tells the end user what the business is all about.

    Bob
     
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  23. NameLlama

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    People go to register their .com, and they see it is taken or selling for $40,000. Oh no, the .net is taken too. Now that we have still to add billions of people who will become wealthier to start companies and websites, saturation will increase. So now we add .xyz, .online, and others as a 'major upgrade' to the system to add more options for everyone.
    TLDs that are niche words like .rodeo are not helpful or impressive, but these ones, .xyz .site and .online, are upgrades, it seems..
     
  24. johnnie018

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    How about calling them "Supreme Golden Names of the New World"? and we can call .com, "Broken Down Names of Yesteryear", because, ya know, that how it is going with these next-generation names exploding onto tv screens and billboards while .com becomes a forgotten and sad relic of the past.
     

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