NameBio Sales

[domainnews]

Most of the trading data reported by Namebio every day here is automatically generated by the system, not manually filtered by human.


So regarding the authenticity of the data, this is not investment advice, and you need to discern it yourself. These were special reminders from the NameBio website before.

The transactions you see every day are compiled for you by cold, impersonal robots, not employees.
I don't think anyone here would disagree with me, right?

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

Totally disagree there ma’am.
It’s obvious you’re obsession for SI is a little similar to what a crackhead needs when it’s out of junk.
Say it I can’t be wrong. I can’t be wrong. The potus has spoken.

 

[domainnews]

Totally disagree there ma’am.
It’s obvious you’re obsession for SI is a little similar to what a crackhead needs when it’s out of junk.
Say it I can’t be wrong. I can’t be wrong. The potus has spoken.

Hi, don’t get angry, I’m not going to argue with you either. I just want to say that you might not be very familiar with how NameBio operates. If you spend enough time on the forum, you’ll understand that what I’m saying is correct because my points come from professionals, not just random talk.

Also, at the moment I only have 5 .si domains; I just think Trump is so cute.

 

[domainnews]

Totally disagree there ma’am.
It’s obvious you’re obsession for SI is a little similar to what a crackhead needs when it’s out of junk.
Say it I can’t be wrong. I can’t be wrong. The potus has spoken.

one thing I need to remind you of that several month ago this year domain medias here reported that Tech+one English word.ai(2 words combination of ai) is for 100KUSD ，After about 2-3 months later, one word 'Tech/ai' was reported by the news medias here as well, a $100K deal too， I believe you know what I mean.

 

[Michael]

Most of the trading data reported by Namebio every day here is automatically generated by the system, not manually filtered by human.


So regarding the authenticity of the data, this is not investment advice, and you need to discern it yourself. These were special reminders from the NameBio website before.

The transactions you see every day are compiled for you by cold, impersonal robots, not employees.
I don't think anyone here would disagree with me, right?

I would disagree with you. I spend hours every day manually looking around X, forums, and Discord groups for sales I can publish. If I didn't do that, the daily Top Sales would look very different.

I'm not sure why you think you have any special insight into how we operate, I've never seen you in my office.

We've had a disclaimer on our site since day one saying the following (or similar):

Sales data is believed to be correct, though its accuracy is not guaranteed. Please do your own due diligence before investing.

So I'm not sure your point in saying that, like you're adding some value that wasn't already obvious. The industry is not transparent, and I do my best given the circumstances.

If my best wasn't good enough I don't think NameBio would be celebrating its 20th birthday next week, I don't think GoDaddy would pull our data into Domain Academy tools, I don't think Atom would show our comps on their marketplace listings, I don't think investors and brokers all over the world would cite us during negotiations, and I don't think I would have been interviewed by Bloomberg recently.

But maybe "domain news" knows something I don't? Anyway, back to work for me.

 

[Future Sensors]

@domainnews

Your persistent, years-long campaign to discredit NameBio in almost every sales thread is tiresome, and you have been asked many times to stop. If you have concrete evidence that a reported sale is incorrect, please send it to NameBio. They will gladly correct or remove it, since accurate data is in their own interest too.

@Alfa Mod Team
@Echo Mod Team
@Bravo Mod Team

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[URL Stream]

Your persistent, years-long campaign to discredit NameBio in almost every sales thread is tiresome,

And it's remarkable how NB's unscrupulous reporting is almost entirely targeting .ai, while all other data is somehow considered trustworthy.

 

[domainnews]

Thank you for your reply.


First of all, I'm not going to argue with you. Secondly, I just want to explain my point of view and stance, that's all.

Honestly，I don't completely deny your efforts, because before AI trading, I was always using your website. Back then, I couldn't spot many fake transactions. But after your platform started indexing .ai domain transactions, I discovered chaos in the industry—hype and fake transactions were far more frequent than I had imagined.


Secondly, I tested your website many years ago. To test your site, I once conducted a fake auction. I found that in the last second after the beat, your website's system interface immediately fetched the fake auction amount. Of course, others don't know which domain name it is. If you want to know, I can tell you.

Also, I said your website's data interface crawls data automatically and publishes it, and I have some basis for this, because many platform members know well. I've heard others talk about it, and I consulted professionals. The answer I got was that data sent to you is automatically generated and published by the system. So transactions are hard to distinguish from fake. After all, you're not a trading platform, and some transactions even don't know the authenticity of domain name transactions. So, what is the real meaning of your efforts? I know you're doing it for survival. This website can bring you advertising revenue, and that's what you're doing right.


Additionally, some Chinese users have previously used your website's paid services but had poor experiences, and they have posted complaints or complaints about you on NamePros.


Finally, you yourself said that most of the domain transactions you listed were screenshots from the X platform. If I wanted to fake them, it would be very easy. Just taking the transaction screenshots as a transaction and then posting it in the community is not rigorous and not worth promoting or emulating.


Recently, I received a transaction of 39,888 euros on a certain platform. The buyer agreed, but in the end, no payment was made, so the transaction wasn't completed. Although everything seems like a normal transaction with many procedures, if I want to fake it, it's easy. I would post it on X to attract domain media screenshots and coverage.


I do hope your platform could be improved more in the future.

 

[domainnews]

BtW，In the past, whenever I talked about .Ai domain sales, my posts were always reported and taken down countless times by people with ulterior motives. I know who these people are—they’re nervous, angry, and panicking.

They don’t dare to discuss things directly, but instead report my posts to cover up the truth. This kind of behavior is really low.

 

[domainnews]

Many of my posts related to Si domain sales reported and taken down

 

[domainnews]

@domainnews

Your persistent, years-long campaign to discredit NameBio in almost every sales thread is tiresome, and you have been asked many times to stop. If you have concrete evidence that a reported sale is incorrect, please send it to NameBio. They will gladly correct or remove it, since accurate data is in their own interest too.

@Alfa Mod Team
@Echo Mod Team
@Bravo Mod Team

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Why can't NameBio, like Sedo, publish domain sales trends once a week?

That way, there would be enough time to check the authenticity of the domain names. Sedo only reports transactions that fully follow the procedure, instead of going to platform X to find transaction data for reporting.

As a platform operator, NameBio has the obligation to report accurately, rather than relying on domain investors to find fake transactions on the market and then expose and crack down on them.


What do you think?

 

[domainnews]

@domainnews

Your persistent, years-long campaign to discredit NameBio in almost every sales thread is tiresome, and you have been asked many times to stop. If you have concrete evidence that a reported sale is incorrect, please send it to NameBio. They will gladly correct or remove it, since accurate data is in their own interest too.

@Alfa Mod Team
@Echo Mod Team
@Bravo Mod Team

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What I'm criticizing isn't NameBio itself, but the fake transactions on NameBio, so don't twist the concept.

Thanks

 

[Michael]

Link?

It's a story about the .si domain explosion, they're still writing it up. I'll post if it gets published.

Thank you for your reply.


First of all, I'm not going to argue with you. Secondly, I just want to explain my point of view and stance, that's all.

Honestly，I don't completely deny your efforts, because before AI trading, I was always using your website. Back then, I couldn't spot many fake transactions. But after your platform started indexing .ai domain transactions, I discovered chaos in the industry—hype and fake transactions were far more frequent than I had imagined.


Secondly, I tested your website many years ago. To test your site, I once conducted a fake auction. I found that in the last second after the beat, your website's system interface immediately fetched the fake auction amount. Of course, others don't know which domain name it is. If you want to know, I can tell you.

Also, I said your website's data interface crawls data automatically and publishes it, and I have some basis for this, because many platform members know well. I've heard others talk about it, and I consulted professionals. The answer I got was that data sent to you is automatically generated and published by the system. So transactions are hard to distinguish from fake. After all, you're not a trading platform, and some transactions even don't know the authenticity of domain name transactions. So, what is the real meaning of your efforts? I know you're doing it for survival. This website can bring you advertising revenue, and that's what you're doing right.


Additionally, some Chinese users have previously used your website's paid services but had poor experiences, and they have posted complaints or complaints about you on NamePros.


Finally, you yourself said that most of the domain transactions you listed were screenshots from the X platform. If I wanted to fake them, it would be very easy. Just taking the transaction screenshots as a transaction and then posting it in the community is not rigorous and not worth promoting or emulating.


Recently, I received a transaction of 39,888 euros on a certain platform. The buyer agreed, but in the end, no payment was made, so the transaction wasn't completed. Although everything seems like a normal transaction with many procedures, if I want to fake it, it's easy. I would post it on X to attract domain media screenshots and coverage.


I do hope your platform could be improved more in the future.

Believe it or not, I have quite a bit of experience reviewing sales reports. I'm pretty good at figuring out which ones are fake, along with help from contacts we have at various marketplaces. It's rare for someone to try to report a fake sale, but it does happen. I've caught several that were published on DNJournal or other blogs. Nobody is perfect, probably some slip through. Most people are ethical enough not to do that.

Here's an interesting story about one that even fooled the SEC:
https://domainnamewire.com/2024/08/...10-million-but-it-later-sold-for-1-5-million/

I didn't say most were from screenshots, I said a good amount of the Top Sales section are. There are maybe 20-30 a day, sometimes as many as 40; but we collect 2-3k records per day, often more.

Several marketplaces report directly to us, only verified transactions. For the ones we track ourselves, they're mostly expired auctions, not public sellers, so there's very little point in gaming them. We even used bid data from public auctions to prove a shill bidding ring at NameJet that resulted in bans and refunds.

I'm sorry to hear that you were silly enough to run an auction with fake bids to see if we would publish the result. Obviously we would, there's no way for us to know someone was placing fake bids. So you did something unethical and probably illegal just to confirm what even a toddler could have guessed. What a waste. Sure, please DM me with the name and proof you "won" it so I can remove it.

There was a story not long ago about someone from France tainting a temperature reading at a weather station using a battery-powered hair dryer, to win a bet on Polymarket. I guess you can't trust any weather data now too?

The real meaning of my efforts? To track sales so people can understand domain valuations and the market in general. A few fraudulent auctions and fake screenshots in a sea of millions of records doesn't change that. I go way out of my way to keep the data as clean as possible. I can't say it's perfect, but I can say with 100% certainty that it is significantly better than nothing.

What's the real meaning of your efforts? I think that's the more confounding question.

I'm not sure what China has to do with anything. Probably you talked to one of the many who tried to steal data and were banned for it. Unlike frontier AI companies and others, we don't block users from China completely. During the CHIPs boom of 2015/2016 we even had our entire site translated into Chinese (screenshot from Archive.org below) to make all the new investors from China feel welcome.

Why can't NameBio, like Sedo, publish domain sales trends once a week?

That way, there would be enough time to check the authenticity of the domain names. Sedo only reports transactions that fully follow the procedure, instead of going to platform X to find transaction data for reporting.

As a platform operator, NameBio has the obligation to report accurately, rather than relying on domain investors to find fake transactions on the market and then expose and crack down on them.


What do you think?

Not sure what you're talking about. We have a Trends page, but it's better than weekly, it updates in real-time. Yes, we do have an obligation to report accurately, to the best of our ability and within the confines of an industry that lacks transparency. And anybody who knows me or is familiar with NameBio knows I take that very seriously. If I didn't, we wouldn't be such a trusted resource.

What I'm criticizing isn't NameBio itself, but the fake transactions on NameBio, so don't twist the concept.

Thanks

You sound like Mike Mann and his .xyz crusade. It seems like you call sales fake based on vibes or an agenda. That's why I've ignored your posts for the past few years, and will do so moving forward as well. My time is better spent actually trying to contribute to the industry.

 

[domainnews]

This is complete nonsense. Someone actually said that Mike Mann, his .xyz, and I. This is the biggest lie I've heard in the 21st century.

There’s no doubt that some domain speculation is related to your platform. You don’t need to argue, and you don’t need to ask me how I know.

As for others, I don’t know, but I definitely don’t trust your platform.

 

[domainnews]

@Mike Mann

 

[domainnews]

I not only doubt AI sales, but also doubt these sales—at least 15 of them, all on the same day, with the same prices, from the same platform.

Also, the batch .ai transactions were reported on the same day, on the same platform, at the same price, which is $105,000. The transaction screenshots came from Platform X, unearthed by these “clever domain news reporters”.

where is your professional? and? Are these domain deals also ones you picked out too?

You're not really ignoring my past posts; you're afraid to face my soul-searching questions because I've asked one question at least five times, and you keep avoiding the answer.

I really can't understand why a platform like this still needs to exist if it can't ensure that the data it publishes is true and reliable. This isn't fear-mongering, and there's no need to use fancy words to make excuses for itself.

 

[domainnews]

Stop tapeting thread with nonsence.
It would be much helpfull from you if you spent time and analyze why sell obscure names like:

yrhhwd.com
gxyyshgw.com

And share your research with us. Otherwise is no point read your inputs.

Why don't you allow others to discuss fake .ai sales? What exactly are you nervous about?

Since you found the .com domain trading suspicious, instead of actively seeking the truth, why are you're blaming others here?

 

[renown.now]

Why don't you allow others to discuss fake .ai sales? What exactly are you nervous about?

Since you found the .com domain trading suspicious, instead of actively seeking the truth, why are you're blaming others here?

prove it

 

[domainnews]

prove it

I’m not obligated to explain or prove anything to you; you just need to read the key points in my post carefully.

 

[Michael]

This is complete nonsense. Someone actually said that Mike Mann, his .xyz, and I. This is the biggest lie I've heard in the 21st century.

There’s no doubt that some domain speculation is related to your platform. You don’t need to argue, and you don’t need to ask me how I know.

As for others, I don’t know, but I definitely don’t trust your platform.

For someone who doesn't trust or use our site, you certainly talk about it a lot. I don't need to ask you how you know, because you don't know. You just have an opinion, which is fine. But if you state opinions as fact with zero evidence no intelligent person is going to take you seriously. Which doesn't seem to be a concern you have.

I not only doubt AI sales, but also doubt these sales—at least 15 of them, all on the same day, with the same prices, from the same platform.

Also, the batch .ai transactions were reported on the same day, on the same platform, at the same price, which is $105,000. The transaction screenshots came from Platform X, unearthed by these “clever domain news reporters”.

where is your professional? and? Are these domain deals also ones you picked out too?

You're not really ignoring my past posts; you're afraid to face my soul-searching questions because I've asked one question at least five times, and you keep avoiding the answer.

I really can't understand why a platform like this still needs to exist if it can't ensure that the data it publishes is true and reliable. This isn't fear-mongering, and there's no need to use fancy words to make excuses for itself.

We track what happened. We can't verify they actually went through in many cases. I don't try to hide that fact, and most people know and understand it. But like I said, I do go way out of my way to keep the data clean.

For example, take the Namecheap sales in your screenshot. We re-check every auction after several weeks have passed, because Namecheap updates their auction page to say it was Cancelled if it didn't go through. If any of those were changed to Cancelled status they would have been removed. Here's the first one you "doubt":

https://www.namecheap.com/market/sale/9FrCveeUtwsDPDyobyLLo9/bob.us.com/

See how it says "Sold" and not "Cancelled"? What do you think that means? Can I understand or explain why someone would pay four figures for a .us.com, or why so many on the same day? Not really.

You could ask Namecheap about that. There were 19 that ended that day on Namecheap, 18 were in the four-figure range, and 6 were at prices other than 1,010, which you neglected to mention because it hurts your case.

Maybe someone put a proxy of 1k for a bunch of them and got beat? Maybe a bunch were registered on the same day, expired, and thus were auctioned on the same day? Your screenshot isn't proof of anything, although it is totally reasonable to look at that list and think that something seems strange.

Transactions getting reported on the same day is fairly common, that doesn't mean they happened on the same day. For example, Sedo sends us a weekly report, but it doesn't say the date of each sale, so they all get entered with the current date. Same for NameJet / SnapNames and their monthly report. Or when the former CEO of Namecheap reports a batch of .ai sales from his own portfolio.

That's not proof of anything, other than that I'd rather have the sales be seen if they were recent, rather than spending hours trying to guess exact dates from WHOIS or NS history just so the sales could be buried and nobody would be aware of them.

How would you like us to verify sales? Hack the marketplaces to see if transactions went through? I do everything in my (limited) power to keep the data clean. If you think we shouldn't exist just because we can't 100% verify every single transaction then you're extremely dramatic and shortsighted.

How else do you think people are going to value domains if we didn't exist? They'll still have to base things off auctions and publicly reported sales, and they'll see the same things we would have.

Well, less actually, because many sales are reported directly to us that wouldn't be reported to individuals, and people also probably won't go back to double check every auction they see either.

I’m not obligated to explain or prove anything to you; you just need to read the key points in my post carefully.

Not unless you want people to take you seriously. If you do, you should either stop stating opinions as facts, or come bearing proof. Something the "FaKE sAlEs!!1! rawr" crew never seems to do.

I'm still eagerly awaiting your DM about your fake auction by the way. Or did we already clean it up automatically and you didn't realize? Or was it just another one of your “stories”?