.mobi Mobile Yahoo

[duceman]

All of you Mobi-eers check out Yahoo's new mobile site.

http://mobile.yahoo.com/go

It's pretty cool, it brings the entire internet to your phone.

not one word about Mobi

 

[yoyosean]

that is because microsoft is a partner of .mobi they probably dont want to help out the comp.

 

[fautebol]

All of you Mobi-eers check out Yahoo's new mobile site.

http://mobile.yahoo.com/go

It's pretty cool, it brings the entire internet to your phone.

not one word about Mobi

Thanks for the link.

Yahoo Go! is the first application optimized for the “small screen” of a mobile phone that truly makes it easy and fun to access the Internet. Everything about the Yahoo! Go interface is designed to be both visually stunning and give you what you want with the fewest clicks possible.

....

Unlike prior applications that attempt to force-feed a PC experience to your phone, Yahoo! Go has taken the Internet services you love and optimized them for the mobile experience.

No that far from the concept of .mobi standard, no? (except that it does not work with all phones and that you need to download a program)

 

[Don_OKC]

It has a Mobile Search Default :kickass:

 

[seanboy]

It would be a much easier to type in "yahoo.mobi" Get with it, yahoo

 

[scandiman]

It would be a much easier to type in "yahoo.mobi" Get with it, yahoo

Surprise, surprise, yahoo.mobi does indeed work!

 

[mejcdj]

All of you Mobi-eers check out Yahoo's new mobile site.

http://mobile.yahoo.com/go

It's pretty cool, it brings the entire internet to your phone.

not one word about Mobi

It makes no difference if yahoo or some of the other big boys out there use some long string or redirect for their site because the VAST majority of the interent still won't. Not only that, but There is no way to be sure that these yahoo and other company strings, redirects or downloads will work on EVERY device. .Mobi will.

That is the WHOLE point.

Mejcdj

 

[satsdifference.com]

Why .mobi is useful

The funny thing is that some companies like Google have yet to be awakened to the trend that a forced mobile redirect to a lesser content mobile version on the .com will not allow users with a PDA to access the full version .com site with features and just scrollbars!

They are jipping the user experience!

This is why dotmobi IS uselful.

The ideal way for power to the user experience is for the .com PC version to be consistent with the .com PDA access and medium screens as well.

Let the users have a choice between a mobile version .mobi and still the full blown .com experience with scrollbars!

Its best if the device detect and redirect was done on the .mobi. That way it frees up access for a PDA or medium screen user experience to still have accessible the full features of the .com site on the any mobile device anywhere.

This is an important point I have been raising, please see the thread below:

http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/274724-what-if-i-wanted-access-full.html

Who knows what will manifest, maybe in time they will see this, but just advocating now for the user's power point of view not the forced tech capability point of view. DotMobi believers should be aware of this point..

Happy 2007

Regards,

 

[Don_OKC]

Isn't anyone happy it has mobile web search results?

 

[Broker]

Isn't anyone happy it has mobile web search results?

Not really, it defaults to http://wap.oa.yahoo.com/raw?dp=home


starting to think all of us dot mobi (ers) got scammed.

 

[Don_OKC]

starting to think all of us dot mobi (ers) got scammed.

That's what the internet is all about. :hehe:

 

[fautebol]

Isn't anyone happy it has mobile web search results?

It does better than that...It gives the two different results...And since I totally agree with worldradio's argument, it makes me very happy

 

[mejcdj]

The funny thing is that some companies like Google have yet to be awakened to the trend that a forced mobile redirect to a lesser content mobile version on the .com will not allow users with a PDA to access the full version .com site with features and just scrollbars!

They are jipping the user experience!

This is why dotmobi IS uselful.

The ideal way for power to the user experience is for the .com PC version to be consistent with the .com PDA access and medium screens as well.

Let the users have a choice between a mobile version .mobi and still the full blown .com experience with scrollbars!

Its best if the device detect and redirect was done on the .mobi. That way it frees up access for a PDA or medium screen user experience to still have accessible the full features of the .com site on the any mobile device anywhere.

This is an important point I have been raising, please see the thread below:

http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/274724-what-if-i-wanted-access-full.html

Who knows what will manifest, maybe in time they will see this, but just advocating now for the user's power point of view not the forced tech capability point of view. DotMobi believers should be aware of this point..

Happy 2007

Regards,

If i am understanding your post, you are askling why the mobile companies don't install a detect program that will see if the site is a full version or a smaller version and adapt the page accordingly instead of moving towards a mobile standard site?

As far as I know, .com can still be used on the mobile web, its the content and the images on some sites that make it impossible for the mobile devices, its not the phones. The idea is to make it usable for the visitors.

I think, what they are trying to do, is instead of making the 55 million or so sites to change their content and adapt to a smaller screen, they are simply making a new standard tld (mobi) so that if the user wants to visit the web on the phone, they are garanteed a good experience. .com or .mobi. That is the 'power' you are advocating. .mobi is giving them that choice.

Anyone with a .com can follow the same standards. They are not exclusive to the .mobi ext. But, will they? That is why we have .mobi.

Please correct me if I have misinderstood your point.

Mejcdj

 

[satsdifference.com]

Let's discuss this!

Hi Mejcdj, thanks for the reply. I encourage others to understand this carefully as it is very important..

If i am understanding your post, you are askling why the mobile companies don't install a detect program that will see if the site is a full version or a smaller version and adapt the page accordingly instead of moving towards a mobile standard site?

The detect and redirect and be done on the .mobi! (this keeps access to the full .com featured site on the PDA available)

As far as I know, .com can still be used on the mobile web, its the content and the images on some sites that make it impossible for the mobile devices, its not the phones. The idea is to make it usable for the visitors.

I think, what they are trying to do, is instead of making the 55 million or so sites to change their content and adapt to a smaller screen, they are simply making a new standard tld (mobi) so that if the user wants to visit the web on the phone, they are garanteed a good experience. .com or .mobi. That is the 'power' you are advocating. .mobi is giving them that choice.

Yes, .mobi may give mobile device users a choice if the .com DOES NOT do a forced redirect to a mobile version as emerging standard. People on their PDA/mobile device can choose:

1.) .mobi - shortened content with device detect redirect to mobile version

2.) .com - access to the original full blown and full features site that the desktop computer sees (NOT a forced .com mobile redirect)

Anyone with a .com can follow the same standards. They are not exclusive to the .mobi ext. But, will they? That is why we have .mobi.

I am trying to see the coming trend, I agree I don't think we can expect all .com sites to do redirects, rather that is what .mobi is for. The macro point is we need .com to display the original desktop version (with pictures and everything, just having scrollbars ) on the PDA/mobile device as well, not a forced mobile redirect on the .com..

For example, (use your PDA if you can to see):

Currently on google.com by desktop you can access a link to Adwords with a 2 click - click on "advertising programs" then click on "adwords".

But if you use your PDA/mobile device, when I type in Google.com I get a forced redirect to a mobile version that CANNOT do the above access 2click to adwords.

Now imagine if all sites did this forced redirect., If I was in some resort on some beach somewhere I WOULD NOT have access to the 2click adwords or any site's full features .com if there was a forced mobile redirect on the .com. We should be able to see the full original .com featured site as well! The .com on a PDA should be consistent to what we are seeing on the .com desktop computer.

It's not utilized right not because dotMobi is 13 weeks old, but doesn't this make sense as the future global way emerging standard?

.COM = COMputer version full featured site
.MOBI = any mobile device detect redirect shortened content version

Just as .mobi can be accessed by desktop computer,
.com also needs to be accessible in full version by mobile device

This is power to the user's experience perspective and advocacy..

Important to bring this up with people!

Regards, =)

WorldRadio.mobi

 

[gou]

Not really, it defaults to http://wap.oa.yahoo.com/raw?dp=home


starting to think all of us dot mobi (ers) got scammed.

I don't think that's what he's talking about.
Yahoo mobile search distinguishes the difference between "web results" and "mobile web results" which means that .mobi will appear more frequently when the latter results are chosen.
Here are a couple terms that you can play around with:
Cinema times
Businessweek
Boing

 

[mejcdj]

Hi Mejcdj, thanks for the reply. I encourage others to understand this carefully as it is very important..


The detect and redirect and be done on the .mobi! (this keeps access to the full .com featured site on the PDA available)


Yes, .mobi may give mobile device users a choice if the .com DOES NOT do a forced redirect to a mobile version as emerging standard. People on their PDA/mobile device can choose:

1.) .mobi - shortened content with device detect redirect to mobile version

2.) .com - access to the original full blown and full features site that the desktop computer sees (NOT a forced .com mobile redirect)





I am trying to see the coming trend, I agree I don't think we can expect all .com sites to do redirects, rather that is what .mobi is for. The macro point is we need .com to display the original desktop version (with pictures and everything, just having scrollbars ) on the PDA/mobile device as well, not a forced mobile redirect on the .com..

For example, (use your PDA if you can to see):

Currently on google.com by desktop you can access a link to Adwords with a 2 click - click on "advertising programs" then click on "adwords".

But if you use your PDA/mobile device, when I type in Google.com I get a forced redirect to a mobile version that CANNOT do the above access 2click to adwords.

Now imagine if all sites did this forced redirect., If I was in some resort on some beach somewhere I WOULD NOT have access to the 2click adwords or any site's full features .com if there was a forced mobile redirect on the .com. We should be able to see the full original .com featured site as well! The .com on a PDA should be consistent to what we are seeing on the .com desktop computer.

It's not utilized right not because dotMobi is 13 weeks old, but doesn't this make sense as the future global way emerging standard?

.COM = COMputer version full featured site
.MOBI = any mobile device detect redirect shortened content version

Just as .mobi can be accessed by desktop computer,
.com also needs to be accessible in full version by mobile device

This is power to the user's experience perspective and advocacy..

Important to bring this up with people!

Regards, =)

WorldRadio.mobi

So, in your scenario.. if some one goes to jimsjams.mobi on the pda, he should then be given the option to go to the full version of jimsjams.com?
If that is your suggestion, what if I own jimsjams.mobi and you own jimsjams.com? That would not be fair to me since I did the advertising and marketing for my mobi.. and then the surfer is given the opportunity to see you full blown .com.

.COM = COMputer version full featured site
.MOBI = any mobile device detect redirect shortened content version

Just as .mobi can be accessed by desktop computer,
.com also needs to be accessible in full version by mobile device

That can not be done for quite some time, unless all of the owners of .com sites greatly reduce the amount of rich content on their sites. This is up to the individual owner, not the device makers.

If everyone went to a .mobi compliant format, then this would be fine.. but I can bet you plenty, that they all won't . That is why we need .mobi. So that the information can be found without paying $50 for bandwidth to visit one .com site that is not mobi ready.

Mejcdj

 

[yoyosean]

could not agree more

 

[labrocca]

lol.....yeah let's dumb down the internet instead of making devices smarter...jeez you guys just don't get it

 

[yoyosean]

i guess you get it oh please inform us almighty one, i guess samsung, ericsson, nokia, GSM, etc, etc, etc dont get it either perhaps you should sit on the boards of these companies to show them the way : )

 

[labrocca]

When you can tell me exactly what nokia, samsung, ericsson, and all the other backers actually have staked into mobi then maybe I will believe the hype. These companies have been nearly silent about mobi and even mTLD doesn't give us ANY info on the relationship with the backers. mTLD has done a great job of convincing domainers of "potential" and those who missed the bet on com, net, and orgs are now scrambling to get a piece of a new pie. However .mobi is at best a McDonalds apple pie for 99 cents. It might taste good now but as soon as you have to sh1t it out the pain will be unbearable.