.Mobi and LLLL.COM are among the good names pool as per Frank Schilling!

[rickkumar]

This is what Frank Schilling said on his blog:

To put this in perspective, the types of names which constitute my theoretical “best 7-12%” of all names registered include all 2 and 3 character names, nearly all 4 letters, any search-term no matter how far down the long-tail. It includes zip codes and popular screen-names, first/last name combos that are popular/less popular, pretty much anything that means anything to anybody and a second or third person. It includes the best .info’s .us names (even .mobi’s)… All the “good ones” amount to just 7-12% of all names registered. The rest is an ever circulating torrent of backfill which expires and gets replaced by a grand water-like cycle of new garbage.. A never ending boulevard of broken dreams to come.

link:

http://www.sevenmile.com/2008-03/everybody-sells/

 

[Steven]

If my hunch is correct then .web .blog and other new .extensions will come to pass and they will marginalize the .info, .us, .eu, .asia and .mobi namespaces just as those namespaces relegated .ws and .cc to obscurity before them.

Also from the same article

My reflections in a forum:
……….

- first mention of .mobi in positive terms by Frank. Not bad for a guy that “would own a negative number of .mobi names if (he) could”

***FS*** I still do not want to own them.. just illustrating that the best ones: flowers, shopping, health, maps are part of that top tranche of names described in my post.. I probably had a chance to look at (and buy) more than a million names that would fit my top 7-12% criteria over the past decade and have only registered 300k or so ..

From comment section of the article

 

[Aggro]

Desperate domainers call for desperate measures

 

[Jeff]

“best 7-12%”

If my hunch is correct then .web .blog and other new .extensions will come to pass and they will marginalize the .info, .us, .eu, .asia and .mobi namespaces just as those namespaces relegated .ws and .cc to obscurity before them.

Also from the same article

^ Good quote, IMHO. :gl:

.Mobi and LLLL.COM are among the good names pool as per Frank Schilling!

I read the entire blog post ... and came away with a much different perspective of it than, simply, ".Mobi and LLLL.COM are among the good names pool as per Frank Schilling", IMHO.

As I've stated since Day One and repeatedly to anyone that would listen ... with regard to the "dot Mobey", VERY very FEW individuals will make money with a VERY very FEW (as part of that "top tranche", as it's described in the blog post) "dot Mobey" domains, IMHO. This leaves the VAST MAJORITY of - absent an developed and promoted "ecosystem" - of "dot Mobey" domains and ordinary folks / investors with years and YEARS of renewal fees ... ultimately, ending in a massive non-renewal of "dot Mobey" scraps (that we're now all witnessing the beginning of here in '08), IMHO.
How many folks are facing large amounts of renewals ... and just aren't sure of the extension's viability anymore?

Again, as I've mentioned for months ... how many of those "premium"
domains "sold" at Traffic & Sedo to Usual Suspects™ are now developed and being promoted? :red:
How has mTLD enforced this 6-month mandate?
Will this mandate now be abandoned ... just as mTLD abandoned the once promised RFP process? Where are those "premium" proceeds being invested?
Tick Tock. :imho:

Nice blog post, thanks for the post.
-Jeff

 

[rickkumar]

Like any other domain extension, only the top .mobi domains especially the generic dictionary words and top commercial terms will be profitable and also if those were acquired at registration cost imo.

My impression from Frank's post is that he (and many others who were against mobis/LLLL.COM) are probably now having second thoughts and are trying to position themselves to acquire top notch mobi names. These kind of posts are more like a face saving when you change your positions from what you are known for.

 

[mjnels]

^ Good quote, IMHO. :gl:



I read the entire blog post ... and came away with a much different perspective of it than, simply, ".Mobi and LLLL.COM are among the good names pool as per Frank Schilling", IMHO.

As I've stated since Day One and repeatedly to anyone that would listen ... with regard to the "dot Mobey", VERY very FEW individuals will make money with a VERY very FEW (as part of that "top tranche", as it's described in the blog post) "dot Mobey" domains, IMHO. This leaves the VAST MAJORITY of - absent an developed and promoted "ecosystem" - of "dot Mobey" domains and ordinary folks / investors with years and YEARS of renewal fees ... ultimately, ending in a massive non-renewal of "dot Mobey" scraps (that we're now all witnessing the beginning of here in '08), IMHO.
How many folks are facing large amounts of renewals ... and just aren't sure of the extension's viability anymore?

Again, as I've mentioned for months ... how many of those "premium"
domains "sold" at Traffic & Sedo to Usual Suspects™ are now developed and being promoted? :red:
How has mTLD enforced this 6-month mandate?
Will this mandate now be abandoned ... just as mTLD abandoned the once promised RFP process? Where are those "premium" proceeds being invested?
Tick Tock. :imho:

Nice blog post, thanks for the post.
-Jeff

whooooooooooooo cares.

glad to be one of the very very few!


i echo this CAVEAT EMPTOR.... but also dont listen to those that are biased as heck... think for yourself..... i repeat: do not run with the pack.

 

[Jeff]

whooooooooooooo cares.

All those now considering the COST of renewals ... for their "dot Mobeys", IMHO.

Like any other domain extension, only the top .mobi domains especially the generic dictionary words and top commercial terms will be profitable and also if those were acquired at registration cost imo.

^ That's a more accurate perspective ("only the top .mobi domains") on the entire referenced blog post ... than, ".Mobi and LLLL.COM are among the good names pool as per Frank Schilling!" IMHO. Perhaps our #1 Staff™ can replace the thread title for you, upon request? :gl:

I enjoy reading FS's posts ... great input and advice, IMHO. There is very little here to get excited about (much less, attempt to add credibility to the extension as a whole ... ) insofar as the "dot Mobey" and its current state of affairs! :imho:
How has mTLD enforced this 6-month mandate?

Just my two sense, and Caveat Emptor friends!
-Jeff

 

[mjnels]

All those now considering the COST of renewals ... for their "dot Mobeys", IMHO.

next you'll tell us the sky is blue eh...

the people that lose their ass are as much a part of the process as the people who profit... it is wishful thinking otherwise.. this is dough maining.

i have been advocating independent thought since .mobi was released... you never wanna side with the 100% positive hype OR the 100% negative hype. :ghost:

 

[rickkumar]

Well, we all know that Frank has made some quite derogatory remarks about mobi names in the past......Question is "Why this 180 degree turn around?" What has changed or may be he is positioning himself to acquire some


In addition, don't you think a personality like Frank calling nearly all LLLL.COM domains good is a big news?

The LLLL.COM prices at drop venues have risen quite a bit in last week or so especially namejet/snap etc. Now I am wondering if big guys have chnaged their positions and decided to go after the LLLL drops before small time domainers can sweep them all?

I don't know I see positions changing among some, and it does appear that people change positions based on what they think is going to benefit them.

 

[hugegrowth]

I think FS going from .mobi is a worthless extension going nowhere, to this latest blog post where some .mobi's make up the 7-12% best names, is at least a bit of a turn-around, and I noticed it right away when I read his post yesterday. Nothing against FS, but he is closer to the market than most and all the .mobi sales must be having an impact - the bottom hasn't dropped out of .mobi almost two years in.

As for .mobi's dropping and renewal fees, lots of crappy .com, .net, .info, .biz and so on get regged in batches and dropped after one year, why should .mobi be any different. The quality will get held. No domain extension is all gold.

 

[Jeff]

the people that lose their ass are as much a part of the process as the people who profit... it is wishful thinking otherwise.. this is dough maining.

I humbly feel that I've been of assistance ... in helping to limit those that, as you put it, "lose their ass" (in investing - and continuing to renew - in the "dot Mobey" and its once promised developments (via the RFP process and "premium" "development requirements"))! :imho:
How has mTLD enforced this 6-month development mandate? IYHO.

I don't know I see positions changing among some, and it does appear that people change positions based on what they think is going to benefit them.

Again, you and I are reading the same entire blog post now ... and not coming to the exact same conclusions / perspectives, IMHO. I think, in part, it's because you're looking for some good news with respect to the "dot Mobey" and its developments and promotions ... in the current absence of any real, credible, and truly newsworthy information from mTLD, in my view.
Just an observation.
-Jeff

 

[rickkumar]

Jeff......you my friend are just wrong in your conclusion imo

I am feeling that FS is slowly changing his positions, we will find it out in future if thats true.

 

[mjnels]

How has mTLD enforced this 6-month development mandate? IYHO.

to tell you the truth i dont think they will anywhere near the deadlines.... i wish them the best and hope many of them do get developed... you gotta admit, making some of the best generics have what they refer to as mandatory development requirements will likely result in more developed sites than if they didnt put these "requirements" on the best names..... even if they never enforce them.

 

[hugegrowth]

it's because you're looking for some good news with respect to the "dot Mobey" and its developments and promotions ... in the current absence of any real, credible, and truly newsworthy information from mTLD, in my view.
Just an observation.
-Jeff

It isn't hard to find good news for .mobi, hundreds of fortune 500 company mobile sites on .mobi, local travel/tourism sites on .mobi, consistent sales for hundreds and/or thousands of dollars at auctions. .mobi is on it's way to becoming the publicly perceived extension for a mobile website IMO. If it's .mobi then it's a mobile site - easy.

 

[Jeff]

Jeff......you my friend are just wrong in your conclusion imo

I think I hit the Hammer. Head. Nail. :imho:
But, I think it's perfectly fair and professional to agree to disagree, as well! :imho:

How has mTLD enforced this 6-month development mandate? IYHO.

to tell you the truth i dont think they will anywhere near the deadlines.... i wish them the best and hope many of them do get developed... you gotta admit, making some of the best generics have what they refer to as mandatory development requirements will likely result in more developed sites than if they didnt put these "requirements" on the best names..... even if they never enforce them.

What do you mean ... "even if they never enforce them"?!?!

Thanks for the assist.
-Jeff

 

[hugegrowth]

Don't think it matters if they enforce mobile standards or development on .mobi domains. That's what people and businesses will use them for anyway. It was a hard thing to police from the get go, but at least made people think about mobile development. I know I built some pages with their tools. Mobile parking on Sedo meets the requirements, so not like it's hard to meet the minimum standards anyway.

 

[Jeff]

I don't understand ...

Don't think it matters if they enforce mobile standards or development on .mobi domains. That's what people and businesses will use them for anyway. It was a hard thing to police from the get go, but at least made people think about mobile development. I know I built some pages with their tools. Mobile parking on Sedo meets the requirements, so not like it's hard to meet the minimum standards anyway.

The Sedo & Traffic auctions and "sales" of "premium" domains INCLUDED - and very publicly!! - this mTLD mandate for development requirements (and not parking on Sedo, either) within 6 months!

What do you mean by, "but at least made people think about mobile development"?!?! :o
IYHO.

-Jeff

 

[mjnels]

What do you mean ... "even if they never enforce them"?!?!

i mean its completely possible... and you know exactly what i mean because youve been saying the same thing.

 

[Steven]

The Sedo & Traffic auctions and "sales" of "premium" domains INCLUDED - and very publicly!! - this mTLD mandate for development requirements (and not parking on Sedo, either) within 6 months!

What do you mean by, "but at least made people think about mobile development"?!?! :o
IYHO.

-Jeff

I remember you mentioning something about April 1st, 2008 when there will be first batch of released/auctioned premiums developed.
It's only in like 9 days. We'll see what happens...

 

[Jeff]

I remember you mentioning something about April 1st, 2008 when there will be first batch of released/auctioned premiums developed.
It's only in like 9 days. We'll see what happens...

Righto. :blink:

Tick. Tock. Tick Tock. :red:

Relevant - but perhaps less passionate - thread here in the #1 Namepros .MOBI Forum™, as well! :gl:
Link: http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/448224-frank-schilling-and-mobi.html

Happy Easter ... and, please, be careful of "dot Mobey" April Fool's Day '08, friends! :o
-Jeff