NameSilo

Mistakes you made as a newbie

Spaceship Spaceship
Watch

Joseph David

Established Member
Impact
28
As a newbie in the domaining world. What mistakes have you made in regards to name registration or closing a deal or any other mistake you made generally. Let others learn from you.

The experts can also share some info, it will be appreciated.


- As for me I registered some crappy names. I hate seeing them in my portfolio.:shifty::shifty:
 
Last edited:
5
•••
The views expressed on this page by users and staff are their own, not those of NamePros.
Yes, there could be exceptions, but I've found it's best to study and learn what gives domains value. It's not an exact science at all and it takes some time to grasp, but it saves a lot of money in the end.
 
1
•••
Biggest mistake as a newbie I made was not planning from the start to develop domains into stand alone websites. I think that actually applies to 99% of domainers as well.


You develop all your domain into website? Is that not an extra cost? And how is it better than just selling domain?
 
Last edited:
1
•••
Why do you contact some pros here that are looking for people to do outbound for them.

Be wary of that thought. Domainers holding Decent domains do not need people to do outbound for them
 
1
•••
At first I didn't, then I started to and instead of selling just the domain name I would contact end users and ask about affiliate options for their products with the option also to just buy the site, it increased the end users interest considerably leading to many more sales. Often the sites were not even published but rather the prospective end user was given access to the developed site to view it - something many really appreciated and often that built up business confidence between us.

I have taken several years off from serious domaining and just returning now, the names in my signature will be the ones I shall likely develop next. (About 10 years ago I developed JesusChri.st but made the mistake of using the NKJ Bible - which of course brought a C&D flying through the ether. Mind you I did get it up to an alexa ranking of circa. 250,000 within 2 months of publishing the site, but having spent a month working on it I was put off doing it again, this time though I will plan on spending 3-6 months on each before offering them to an end user.)

Domainers should in my opinion look more seriously at developing their domains into sites, after all when we register domains we invariably view them as the possible sites they could become. As to cost, well that is relatively low in monetary terms but can be expensive in time consumption - but this reduces as you get competent using the design package. Also of course with affiliate programs you can soon get a steady flow of income which more than offsets renewal and hosting costs.

Hope this helps and encourages you.


This may be my next approach.

Where do you get affiliate program that suits the domain and also how much on average do you sell your websites
 
1
•••
A great idea for a discussion - thank you @Joseph David . I would echo, and made, many of the mistakes already mentioned in this thread. Registered too many at the beginning, let a portfolio get too large for me (what is right size depends on person and circumstances), acquire almost great (or second best some would say) domain names, too many domains that were very similar, acquire domains in areas I thought I understood but really did not at a deep enough level, and expand into too many niches (so yes, made both mistakes there - at first too narrow, then too broad). I have let go domain names I should have held, and kept some I should have let go. Priced too low. Turned down an offer I should have accepted. I could go on, but you get the idea, I made a few mistakes! :xf.eek:

I think mistakes are part of life, and while any of us can learn many things from reading, listening to others, etc., in a way, we all learn from our mistakes. At least, I hope we do. Reflecting periodically is really important in domain investing.

Here is what I find helpful in trying to avoid too many mistakes.
  • Define who you are as a domainer before you start. Like is your goal to sell $$$$$ domains to big companies and make this your business, or you see this as a side gig and never want to lose money on this. Or simply a hobbyist finding this fun.
  • Sleep on every acquisition decision. The vast majority of mistakes, had I waited longer, I probably would not have got them.
  • Try to talk yourself out of every acquisition. I learned this on NamePros long ago, but forget from who. It is great advice to try to convince yourself that a domain name is not good, before investing in it.
  • Limit yourself. I find it helpful to set limits - like only spend in domain names what you make from domain names, or set some other limit like one new acquisition per week or something.
  • What are you proud of? I don't mean as a person, but that is good too :xf.smile:, I mean if I asked you what are the 10 domain names that are in your portfolio that you feel are highest quality, you should know the answer, and why, and be treating those names with the respect they deserve in terms of getting a good price for them. The converse works with your worst 10.
  • Emotions, emotions, emotions. In conventional investing emotions are what often separates successful investors. The same is true here. Don't feel you absolutely must have any particular domain name I recently listened to an interview with a person who we would regard as one of the more successful investors. Tons of great sales. He disclosed he never bids in auctions, cause too easy to get swept up and pay too much.
Best wishes to everyone, thanks for all the great responses, and thanks again for starting the thread.

Bob


Thanks Bob
 
1
•••
As a newbie in the domaining world. What mistakes have you made in regards to name registration or closing a deal or any other mistake you made generally. Let others learn from you.

The experts can also share some info, it will be appreciated.


- As for me I registered some crappy names. I hate seeing them in my portfolio.:shifty::shifty:
Buying names that appealed to me as opposed to what companies might want or need.

Also stocking up on too many personal project domain names.
 
Last edited:
1
•••
Registering anything for more than one year as a newbie I had names i never even noticed i was registering for 5 years not paying attention just clicking fast.
 
1
•••
As a newbie in the domaining world. What mistakes have you made in regards to name registration or closing a deal or any other mistake you made generally. Let others learn from you.

The experts can also share some info, it will be appreciated.


- As for me I registered some crappy names. I hate seeing them in my portfolio.:shifty::shifty:
For me, Being rigid in negotiations.
 
1
•••
I started Domaining early this year. Immediately i dive into the ocean of hand registering names that i feel it will sell (even though they're still in my portfolio) until my friend called me out and advised me to desist from that. Thought me how to use the ED filter and i move on from there.

Although i still Brainstorm some good names that have never been registered but i send it to Squadhelp or Brandbucket as a new creative names. If they accept it. Fine, if they don't.. I knew maybe its not good for there respective markets.
 
1
•••
When you Win you may lose and when you lose you may win .
Still making mistakes all the time . dont be to focused on price .
 
1
•••
Getting into domaining in the first place. :xf.wink::-P
 
1
•••
1
•••
Registering 50 bad names in one day

This is one of the mistakes I wish I had made sooner. I didn't know about Godaddy's 5 day grace period. Now, I'm not afraid to buy 100 domains in one day. I can get my money back within 4 days for the ones that turn out to be absolutely crappy.
 
1
•••
Very interesting perspective. I'd like to read your thoughts on the business model of hugedomains.com that has over 300k domains in their inventory.

Ok A fair question from somebody new to domaining.

Their several major differences to take note of when comparing a very large player with a history of maintaining a large inventory. And equally the sales to support that model.

Perhaps the first thought you need to install in your mind by comparison is try to see yourself as lets say an enthusiast in an area of interest We also have to identify the majority of NP members as also purely enthusiasts, Yes we have our share of big players (several thousands of domains) But these players have built up a knowledge base usually over many years, likewise they have achieved a sales income to support that model.

Now lets come back to that enthusiasts model. So you strive to learn about domaining (and be successful) What measures do you have in place to assure yourself that you have achieved a level of knowledge to move forward. Yes of course you want to rival the big players, with number of sales under your belt. But your just stepping-out. Now with most Sales models we have controls and regulations then when you have achieved the basics We have the Market itself acting as regulator to your Unchecked enthusiasm. No Such controls in this world of domaining (except the market) So you go ahead and RENT those unlimited amount of assets (Yes domains are purely rented assets) You indeed had the financing in place for that first year of enthusiasm. Now lets hit the reality button - What knowledge have you built your thousands of purchases on. What skills have you acquired to operate and manage that inventory. The big players however have that history, skill, and management level

I could go on and on. Trust me domaining is not a Numbers game - particularly at your (and many other members) level. And even after 20 years I include myself these days
 
Last edited:
1
•••
Registering incorrect English words like "Softwares" "Nutritions" and more.

English is not my native language so it was a bit confusing for me.
 
1
•••
What do you mean by that?

I replied to the other person that not all of the 3 word .com's are worthless.
And I meant exactly that.

But I don't need yours.
 
Last edited:
1
•••
My most painful mistake was that I sold a name on auction and completed pushing, before checking on my email where someone had placed a higher price as a starter bid on the same domain.
 
Last edited:
1
•••
After a few more years, I've also figured out that most real estate agents are very cheap when it comes to their own marketing. We live and learn......


What do you mean by this cause am currently working on a real estate domain. Do you mind sharing more light o this?[/QUOTE]
It obviously doesn't apply to every real estate group, but in my experience the vast majority of the agents that I've spoken with in regards to domains seem to be operating on a minimal marketing budget. Now, that being said, I have had some success in selling real estate domains, but I've had other verticals perform much better.
 
1
•••
Though I still consider my domain knowledge equivalent to a newbie, now I have a small portfolio of around 110 domains which doesn't make me feel bad. Some are good, some average, some below average. But the majority of them are saleable but when no one knows.

As a complete newbie, I wasted around $200 on hand reg. on my 2nd day of domaining. But luckily somehow I recovered that amount from this lot. I was surprised when I made a sale of .exchange extension. This was the 3rd name I registered & returned 50% of the amount I spent on the whole lot. Then I sold those names at wholesale price & reinvested in better names after reading this forum for the next 4-5 months. Repeated this again & again. All these 110+ are acquired from domains income only. No fresh capital. Now payment for one small retail sale of $200 is pending, expected to get credited today. Will get more names.

But still, a lot to learn!

Few points -
*Spend at least 3months learning on this forum before investing in your first domain

* stay away from hand reg for 1st year.

* Read & make notes for future reference.

*When you start hand registering names, don't register it immediately. Write the list & look at it at least 4-5 times within 2 or 3 days. If you still feel them worthy, go for it.

Your last point is totally on point! Sums it all up for newbies
 
1
•••
My biggest beginner's error was thinking that names I found to be funny or clever would have market value. This was not ever the case.

Like I recently registered TextAnEx.com:xf.frown: I hope my ex buys it!:xf.grin:
 
1
•••
10 years ago...
1. registered .com domain with 3 hyphens.
2. register .bz domain (as google treats it like .CO, worldwide targeted) but the site didn't show up worldwide.
3. registered .org domain for commercial use. Though it was highly ranked in google search results, not many leads were converted to sales.
 
1
•••
See this article,
I want to share my experience, about a few years ago,

My mistake
01. At that time, as a beginner, I saw a short domain name,
I don't know what an IDN domain name is. I saw a short domain name and I think it is very valuable.
I spent about $1,000 on the purchase. When I bought it on impulse, I found it was rubbish, no one asked for it, and the domain name I purchased finally seemed to have expired

02.
Through brokers, negotiate with people, help people buy good domain names,
Contact the domain name buyer to complete the transaction at a reasonable price,
However, the buyer changed his mind and eventually handed over the domain name to his own hands, causing losses.

Don’t buy domain names that are worthless and don’t understand

However, after continuous learning and experimentation, and some good luck, I finally made a little money in the domain name field :xf.smile:
 
1
•••
Though I still consider my domain knowledge equivalent to a newbie, now I have a small portfolio of around 110 domains which doesn't make me feel bad. Some are good, some average, some below average. But the majority of them are saleable but when no one knows.

As a complete newbie, I wasted around $200 on hand reg. on my 2nd day of domaining. But luckily somehow I recovered that amount from this lot. I was surprised when I made a sale of .exchange extension. This was the 3rd name I registered & returned 50% of the amount I spent on the whole lot. Then I sold those names at wholesale price & reinvested in better names after reading this forum for the next 4-5 months. Repeated this again & again. All these 110+ are acquired from domains income only. No fresh capital. Now payment for one small retail sale of $200 is pending, expected to get credited today. Will get more names.

But still, a lot to learn!

Few points -
*Spend at least 3months learning on this forum before investing in your first domain

* stay away from hand reg for 1st year.

* Read & make notes for future reference.

*When you start hand registering names, don't register it immediately. Write the list & look at it at least 4-5 times within 2 or 3 days. If you still feel them worthy, go for it.
Important points..thanx
 
1
•••
Hand reg too many after first sale from afternic and again hand reg with many .net hufff

but now i focus on auction and maybe .com anyway
 
1
•••
Hand registered domains thinking that are really valuable. In fact, they were worthless. But still managed to sell them. So, an advice, there is a buyer for everything but you need to find it.
 
1
•••
  • The sidebar remains visible by scrolling at a speed relative to the page’s height.
Back