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new gtlds Mike Mann: “Read my lips gTLDs are D*E*A*D, absolutely no demand!”

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Mike Mann shared on Facebook my article about the bad landrush phase that .Blog domains had last week and also shared his views on the New gTLDs in general:
Read my lips gTLDs are D*E*A*D, absolutely no demand! This was the best out of thousands, along with .web and .app Better luck with other snake oil. .Com stays king. If you also voted for Hillary, rough week. TYVMI.
He also made several other comments about new extensions such as:
How about don’t but them at all, they serve no purpose and cause many problems, and waste a lot of time and money.
Now that everyone knows gTLDs are dead, please Google “Mike Mann gTLDs” and you will see I hit the predictions spot on.
He continued by quoting my article:
Ruggh ruoggh, too many scooby snacks: “So the .blog registry made more than $150,000 from the landrush phase. That doesn’t seem bad but the registry spent $19 million to get rights for the .blog new extension.” Not counting millions per year of overhead. Lesson learned, listen to the mann next time and stick with .Com
He then made more comments like:
“Don't renew your fancy new gtld domains. The experiment is over. No material resale market will take root.”
Mike replied to a comment made by Phil Harris
26 million registered and new sites being launched daily .. X.company being used by Google , Rightside stock just raised to buy status by zachs investment firm .. Awareness growing , secondary 6 figure sales being made , Mike I would say you should watch the movie God is not dead ..
by saying
sure sounds like a bubble

Mike today talked about Google and .soy:
Google spent some energy telling me how ".soy" domain extension was going to be the next big thing a while back, I tried to splain what was up….. Not to discount the fine folks, fancy offices, and great buffet. Googs, gimme a buzz, I’m still a know it all.
Drinking own Koolaid instead of listening to grassroots in the streets
Technically I havent checked the sales numbers but lets take a wild guess, dramatically lower than their expenses…….. like I told them nicely before they invested

Konstantinos Zournas November 14, 2016
http://onlinedomain.com/2016/11/14/...nn-read-lips-gtlds-dead-absolutely-no-demand/
 
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Where do you see me talking about any of that? I know it runs the board. People invest in all kinds of extensions, some do just invest in new gtlds.

But show me something real. You can pick the data points you want to use and let's actually look. Give me something deeper than fluff.

All the data is out there and there is no need to fluff anything. I have spent hours on multiple threads raising various valid points.... I have said over and over again... I'm really not going to go into all again...

I am not here to try and convince anyone of anything... all I know is my reality. My reality will not be the same as your reality. My reality is: I invest in nGTLD's because I have been getting offers on a few of the nGTLD's that I have already invested in...not on all of them but decent offers on some them, offers in the low $xxxx even and I have turned them down. Should I have accepted them...maybe OR maybe I did the right thing by hanging on and playing the long game. Is it a guaranteed investment? Of course not... no such thing.
 
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All the data is out there and there is no need to fluff anything. I have spent hours on multiple threads raising various valid points.... I have said over and over again... I'm really not going to go into all again...

I am not here to try and convince anyone of anything... all I know is my reality. My reality will not be the same as your reality. My reality is: I invest in nGTLD's because I have been getting offers on a few of the nGTLD's that I have already invested in...not on all of them but decent offers on some them, offers in the low $xxxx even and I have turned them down. Should I have accepted them...maybe OR maybe I did the right thing by hanging on and playing the long game. Is it a guaranteed investment? Of course not... no such thing.

So you come with no data whatsoever and talk about offers and not sales. You won't even tell me the data points you like to use, which can be done in a 1 sentence reply.

I know it can't be overall reg numbers right? Because if we use this - https://ntldstats.com/tld

We notice a drop of about 2.1 million in the last 5 weeks or so, with upcoming deletes of almost 1.8 million. But there is demand they say.
 
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So you come with no data whatsoever and talk about offers and not sales.



You want sales figures? - You know where to find sales figures, not like you don't know how to use the same tools that we all use. The data exists out there, I have no need or desire to go find it for you and put together a compelling case to entertain you. It's midnight and I would much rather hit the sack than spend any time sifting thru data just to make a point to you.
 
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All the data is out there and there is no need to fluff anything. I have spent hours on multiple threads raising various valid points.... I have said over and over again... I'm really not going to go into all again...

I am not here to try and convince anyone of anything... all I know is my reality. My reality will not be the same as your reality. My reality is: I invest in nGTLD's because I have been getting offers on a few of the nGTLD's that I have already invested in...not on all of them but decent offers on some them, offers in the low $xxxx even and I have turned them down. Should I have accepted them...maybe OR maybe I did the right thing by hanging on and playing the long game. Is it a guaranteed investment? Of course not... no such thing.


I did invest in new tlds
when the .top was $1 USD

as I thought "everybody wants a top domain ;) "

I still own a few of them - and I plan to hold on-
most of them I dropped when the price was $6.80 USD to renew


the one I still got are really very good
- if .top should establish-

But that's just a few like 2 dozen or so

I do get inquiries for
travelinsurance.top
but hey its much to early to sell that for a few hundered USD


so though I own these
I don't think it wise to invest into nTLDS
when you can get a decent .com or .de
 
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It is really hard to sell nG. I just came back from the Switzerland. Spend there 9 days in a row accommodating client's mind. A whole team of her was involved. She like this, no more something like this, maybe this.
At the end, during the dinner, she bring out the nGTLD .Wine . I was surprised! Anyhow, my time /involvement (xk) and (3.9k -vat) for DN.Wine brings me a nice profit.
 
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This month's reported new TLD sales on namebio (so far):
Total: 14

com.golf 560 USD 2017-05-20 Sedo -- sorry, what is this? comgolf.com is for sale for $3,888
diy.garden 880 USD 2017-05-19 Sedo
delhi.club 551 USD 2017-05-19 Sedo
latest.style 100 USD 2017-05-19 Flippa -- lateststyle.com is for sale for $4,599
v-r.casino 198 USD 2017-05-18 Flippa
auto.run 809 USD 2017-05-17 NameJet / TLDPros.com
brexit.news 1,050 USD 2017-05-16 Sedo
lgbtq.store 200 USD 2017-05-15 Flippa -- lgbtqstore.com is available to register (y)
phone.shopping 109 USD 2017-05-13 Sedo
web.fund 150 USD 2017-05-11 Sedo
idee.shop 2,000 USD 2017-05-10 Sedo
key.digital 2,500 USD 2017-05-04 Sedo

cyber.cafe 750 USD 2017-05-06 Sedo
mens.club 5,000 USD 2017-05-03 Sedo

4 four figure sales.
While there have been 82 four figure .com sales on Sedo alone.

This is what some people apparently think is worthy of investment:
com.golf
lgbtq.store
phone.shopping
brexit.news
 
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The NTLDStats chart over the last couple years reminds me of the tech bubble of the late 90s which popped in spring of 2000. Wikipedia reports the Nasdaq dropped more than 75% from its peak over the ensuing two and a half years. Has the new TLD bubble already peaked? How far till we hit bottom? 20 million registrations? 10 million? Or less than that? How many registries go under? What happens to pricing of remaining extensions to support a dwindling registration base? If end users have their websites wiped out by a registry going belly up, will they relaunch on another new TLD ? Will new TLD holders shift their domain acquisitions to .COM rather than risky nTLDs? We are already seeing experienced domainers with nTLD holdings announce they are dropping most of their new TLDs. Am I the only one who has not bought even one new TLD?
 
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Rick Schwartz and Mike Mann are right about new gTLDs and .com.

Some of you don't know this, but Frank Schilling owns over 400,000 .com domain names. That's more .com domain names than Rick and Mike own combined, plus Michael Berkens old domain portfolio too.

Mark Thorpe
 
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