Michael Moore Message

[monRa]

I get an message form Michael Moore as i'm sucribed in his list:

Friends,

There is much to be said and done about the manmade annihilation of New Orleans, caused NOT by a hurricane but by the very specific decisions made by the Bush administration in the past four and a half years. Do not listen to anyone who says we can discuss all this later. No, we can't. Our country is in an immediate state of vulnerability. More hurricanes, wars, and other disasters are on the way, and a lazy bunch of self-satisfied lunatics are still running the show.

So, in the next few days, I will write to you about what must be done about Bush and Co.

But today I want you to join with me in bypassing the colossally inept and incompetent Bush administration and get help DIRECTLY to the people of the New Orleans area -- right now.

A lot of you have written me to ask what you can do. Many don't know who to trust. Many want to do more than write a check. You are right to think that writing checks to relief agencies will not get water and aid to people in the next 48 hours. Checks will be needed later and can be written later.

I have a way, though, for each and every one of us to do something today that can affect people's lives TODAY.

For the past few days I've been working with a group that, I guarantee you, will get direct aid to the people who need it most.

Cindy Sheehan, the brave woman who dared to challenge Mr. Bush at his summer home, has now sent her Camp Casey from in front of Bush's ranch to the outskirts of New Orleans. The Veterans for Peace have taken all the equipment and staff of volunteers and set up camp in Covington, Louisiana, on the shores of Lake Pontchartrain. They are accepting materials and personally distributing them to those in need.

This is where we come in. We need to ship supplies to them immediately. Today they need the following:

Paper plates, paper towels, toilet paper, baby diapers, baby wipes, baby formula, Pedialyte, baby items in general, powder, lotion, handy wipes, sterile gloves, electrolytes, LARGE cans of veggies, school supplies, and anything else to lift people's spirits.

You can ship these items by following the instructions on VFPRoadTrips.org. Or you can deliver them there in person. The roads to Covington are open. Here's how to get there. You can drop them off or you can stay and participate (if you stay, you'll be camping so bring your own tent and gear and mosquito spray).

If you can't ship these items or go there in person, then go to VFPRoadTrips.org and make an immediate donation through PayPal. Camp Casey-Covington will have immediate access to this cash and can buy the items themselves from stores that are open in Louisiana (all donations to Veterans for Peace, are tax deductible).

Each day I will post up-to-the minute information as to what is needed and the progress Camp Casey is making. Please visit MichaelMoore.com often and do what you can to help.

Many other groups are also doing good work. MoveOn.org has set up a system for people to offer rooms in their homes to the survivors.

There is no time to waste. People are suffering and dying. Each of us can do something. There is no other alternative.

Thank you in advance for your help. Tomorrow, we will take care of the other work we need to do about the ideologically hamstrung incompetents in charge.

Yours,
Michael Moore
[email protected]
MichaelMoore.com

THis guys is the best, i'm waiting his new movie!

 

[stscac]

Think about it, this guy works in the entertainment industry. His films are not documentaries, they are entertainment.

Think about what he said:

There is much to be said and done about the manmade annihilation of New Orleans, caused NOT by a hurricane but by the very specific decisions made by the Bush administration in the past four and a half years. Do not listen to anyone who says we can discuss all this later. No, we can't. Our country is in an immediate state of vulnerability. More hurricanes, wars, and other disasters are on the way, and a lazy bunch of self-satisfied lunatics are still running the show.

I'm confused. Manmade hurricane? Looks like he is building the plot for his next movie. If the northeast got a blizzard with the same windgusts and destruction, he would not have said anything.

For the past few days I've been working with a group that, I guarantee you, will get direct aid to the people who need it most.

Yeah, that's you; Not the people who really need it in New Orleans.

He is playing some of the worst politics over the worst natural disaster in years. Michael Moore, stop playing politics and start caring about something else than your stupid agenda.

People, please, don't support this loon.

-Steve

 

[movingconcierge]

Come on, folks...MM is not saying the hurricane was manmade...

MM is saying that what the hurricane did to NO was preventable and those preventions were known in advance by FEMA and others and they did not prepare for it. That is the manmade disaster he is talking about.

With regard to his movies, think of it in these terms: When you were in school, did you like the teacher who read from a book in a monotone voice and gave you predictability, OR did you like that teacher who was ENTERTAINING, but still brought you relevant and factual information? I know which I liked...

Further, if MM had put out untruths about the president or others and was libel, don't you think he would have been sued to clear their names? Don't you think the legal army of the company that released the movie would have cleared those legal hurdles before it was released? Of course.

With MM as it is with GW, Dick, and the rest of the "posse," you won't get it. And it is totally outlined in "Don't Think of an Elephant" why you won't get it...

You either love MM, or hate MM...I love MM.

 

[stscac]

With regard to his movies, think of it in these terms: When you were in school, did you like the teacher who read from a book in a monotone voice and gave you predictability, OR did you like that teacher who was ENTERTAINING, but still brought you relevant and factual information? I know which I liked...

Factual information. Which part of entertainment don't you understand? What was the last "documentary" in the movie theatres produced and directed by Michael Moore? That's right... I rest my case, movie theatres are sources of entertainment, not factual information (otherwise What Women Want would have been incredible

Further, if MM had put out untruths about the president or others and was libel, don't you think he would have been sued to clear their names? Don't you think the legal army of the company that released the movie would have cleared those legal hurdles before it was released? Of course.

Think about Microsoft for two seconds. Everyone in the world has talked trash about Microsoft, but what to they do about it: Disregard it like it never happened. They have enough power, but don't need to waste it on time-wasting, fat donut magicians like Michael Moore.

With MM as it is with GW, Dick, and the rest of the "posse," you won't get it. And it is totally outlined in "Don't Think of an Elephant" why you won't get it...

You either love MM, or hate MM...I love MM.

I'll give you the fact that he is really creative. I've gone to the theatre to see his movies. Purely as a souce of entertainment. He was recently at the Rye Airfield in Rye, New Hampshire (Rye Airfield is a skatepark 25 minutes from my house) on part of the "Slacker Uprising Tour". Essentially what he was doing was trying to rally slackers and pot-smoking teens to vote democrat. Wow!

Sad what people will fall for in this country, shows stupidity...

-Steve

 

[movingconcierge]

Stupidity! That right there shows your ignorance. It's not stupid <edit>, it's a difference of opinion. If you were mature enough to process that, you wouldn't have to go for the lowbrow insult. ****....er sorry, steve.

 

[-db-]

I've added a "Heated Topic" tag to this thread. The temperature sensors were starting to rise a little bit, and a faint hint of smoke could be seen from over in the Domain Sales section.

Enjoy yourselves - try not to hurt each other.

 

[Lyte]

-db-, you crack me up.

Regarding MM...

The fact that he blames what's happened on Bush (and so far no one else) just proves the guy's a left wing wacko! Where's the blame for Clinton... the current and previous govenors of LO... the current and previous mayors of NO... the current and previous residence of NO... etc...etc...etc...

Come on now... tell me you see what's right in front of your eyes!?

 

[Mark]

No Comment

 

[ThreeD]

Your post shows how democrats cannot take any debate without bringing down playing or some type of bad language.

Come on guys, I don't want to defend anyone here..but why use the phrase "shows stupidity" in the first place? I'm not sure if Steve was aiming at mc, but what it comes down to is a matter of different opinions.

I'm not a big MM fan myself, nor have I seen his movie. I just wish we'd all get along :tu:

Oh and Lyte - I'm with ya, db's post gave me a good laugh

 

[Gene]

-db-, you crack me up.

Regarding MM...

The fact that he blames what's happened on Bush (and so far no one else) just proves the guy's a left wing wacko! Where's the blame for Clinton... the current and previous govenors of LO... the current and previous mayors of NO... the current and previous residence of NO... etc...etc...etc...

Come on now... tell me you see what's right in front of your eyes!?

EXACTLY. If MM's true intention was to help the people of N.O., there would be no reason to bring politics into it. None. Just help the people and put your rage aside. No pointing fingers, no mentioning names, no hostile words. That all does nothing to help the people. The reality is MM is and has been on a self-serving quest to do damage to the administration because of his political views. I support his right to do so, but NOT to entwine his politics with a call for help to the people in need. The words "Bush administration" should never appear in a genuine plea for help. That's a separate issue.

 

[stscac]

If you were mature enough to process that, you wouldn't have to go for the lowbrow insult. ****....er sorry, steve.

Hmmmm, sounds like a Kerry Contradiction....

I'm not sure if Steve was aiming at mc...

And by the way, I am in no way aiming at other NP members (especially movingconcierge due to this discussion), even if we do have a difference in opinion. I'm sorry proud that I have a diffent opinion than you (no, actually I'm not sorry at all as you can see).

Your post shows how democrats cannot take any debate without bringing down playing or some type of bad language

Very true, Bill. As you can see, my posts have aimed at no other than Michael Moore, but I get aimed at and called a d*ck.

Hmmm, is that a democratic way of life? Oh, and by the way I am independent, so I could swing either way, but now I really don't feel like it...

EXACTLY. If MM's true intention was to help the people of N.O., there would be no reason to bring politics into it. None. Just help the people and put your rage aside. No pointing fingers, no mentioning names, no hostile words. That all does nothing to help the people. The reality is MM is and has been on a self-serving quest to do damage to the administration because of his political views. I support his right to do so, but NOT to entwine his politics with a call for help to the people in need.

Right on, Gene. You've got a great point and I support it 100%. As you can see in my first post in this thread, this is the point that I am trying to get across.

Well, anyway, I'm willing to debate, but instead of posting hateful messages, think about what you're going to say for maybe just 1 second.

By the way, I am not immature, I tend to be opinionated - in which there is nothing wrong with that...

Cheers!

-Steve

 

[ThreeD]

And by the way, I am in no way aiming at other NP members (especially movingconcierge due to this discussion), even if we do have a difference in opinion. I'm sorry proud that I have a diffent opinion than you (no, actually I'm not sorry at all as you can see).

I'm glad you're not sorry for having a different opinion because we're all entitled to have our own opinion I haven't stated my opinion on this topic as is, and I'll keep it that way. I'll do like all4 and take the easy way out of this -> *no comment* :hehe:

 

[stscac]

I haven't stated my opinion on this topic as is, and I'll keep it that way. I'll do like all4 and take the easy way out of this -> *no comment* :hehe:

That's fine. I go to college in New Hampshire and I am surrounded by Bush-haters, etc.

I'm used to it. I'm not that vocal in person.

-Steve

 

[monRa]

Hey, Michael Moore is th ebest, have you seen Bowling for Columbine, Fahreneit 9/11, have you read Stupid White? You haven't heard him at the ned of the movie fahreneit when he was telling not to vote Bush ;(

 

[HHDomains]

Think about it, this guy works in the entertainment industry. His films are not documentaries, they are entertainment.

2003 Academy Award, Best Documentary, Bowling for Columbine.

Seems people in higher positions disagree with you.

I'm confused. Manmade hurricane?

Yes, you are confused. Perhaps you should read it again so you can understand. Where does it say man made hurricane? Anywhere?
It says man made disaster. As in a disaster caused by the levee breaking quite possibly a direct result of budget cuts made by the Bush administration.

Playing politics on a major natural disaster like this is just not right.

Considering that more than half of your elected officials have been playing politics with this I would think you should be a whole lot more concerned with that then with what Michael Moore thinks or says.

What was the last "documentary" in the movie theatres produced and directed by Michael Moore?

See response one. That should clear things up for you. Oh, and by the way, most documentaries are made in hollywood, just like the entertainment movies.

They have enough power, but don't need to waste it on time-wasting, fat donut magicians like Michael Moore.

You conservatives sure seem to spend a lot of time talking about Moore for people who don't have time for him. Truth hurts doesn't it.

Your post shows how democrats cannot take any debate without bringing down playing or some type of bad language.

Way to generalize. That would be like me saying that all conservatives are a bunch of right wing, hypocritical, religious idiots after listening to the Pat Robertson show.

The fact that he blames what's happened on Bush (and so far no one else) just proves the guy's a left wing wacko!

He blames the Bush administration. And why shouldn't he? Bush has no problem taking the credit for anything good that happens in the country. He says nothing bad is going to happen "on his watch". Well this mess did happen on his watch and he should have the balls to take responsibility.


The fact of the matter is that the government failed at every level in the early days of this disaster. Right from the Mayor's office, through the Governor's office through the oval office. There is plenty of blame to go around.

The only problem with what Moore is saying is that he is not holding all of the right people accountable.

 

[ThreeD]

The fact of the matter is that the government failed at every level in the early days of this disaster. Right from the Mayor's office, through the Governor's office through the oval office. There is plenty of blame to go around.

I agree with you completely on that statement! I said it myself last night, a massive failure on all levels. For some reason I think people will only learn from this for so long until it goes into the history books. When the next disaster strikes we'll see new failures with new excuses. It's always been that way, it will always be that way.

 

[.X.]

M. Moore is the biggest fruit cake of our modern era,Not only does he not beleive in anything thing in his own country,He sends Liberal polital messages in every statment he makes.Never seems to matter the circumstances,Hurricane or whatever,His intentions are to deliver a strong liberal message and i see nothing of compassion in any of statments he has ever written,As all have the same agenda.Total idiot friut cake MM is imo.

 

[HHDomains]

Moore is a fruitcake because you don't agree with him?
I have seen a ton of conservatives out there who take every oportunity to spew the Republican talking points and base everything on a political agenda.

Are they fruitcakes too?

 

[Lyte]

The words "Bush administration" should never appear in a genuine plea for help. That's a separate issue.

EXACTLY!

Every word that comes out of his mouth reeks with agenda! At first I thought he was a guy with genuine desire to help others but the more I hear this bozo the more I realize he's all about himself and the wacko left.

It's disgusting watching his self glorification on the coat tails of Bush and this tragedy!

 

[Lyte]

Are they fruitcakes too?

Yes!