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It was only a matter of time... First King Com. Then .CN fell. And now... I present to you LLLL.net

This thread is designed to elicit discussion about LLLL.nets. You're encouraged to post anything you feel is relevant to LLLL.nets in this thread. This includes sales information, new regs, ...

Feb 05, 2008: All quad premium LLLL.nets are registered

 

[bfluid]

Flippers like me get nervous during downtimes so I have focused my attention to other things.

Yeah, I just bought 3 names for development. So that ought to keep me busy.

Only if I can get my hosting to work.

Bfluid is a cPanel noob. It isn't even funny how little I know about it. :D

 

[Basement]

:lol even I used to struggle with cPanel when I started, Try watching a few tutorial videos or use FileZilla as a FTP Client. Now all you got to do is drag-and-drop the files into public_html.

I got my eyes on a triple premium for development but the owner is demanding $1.7K for it. Outrageous?

 

[vlad74]

I got my eyes on a triple premium for development but the owner is demanding $1.7K for it. Outrageous?

did you try to negotiate? maybe you will be able to get it just for high $xx -low $xxx?

 

[bfluid]

:lol even I used to struggle with cPanel when I started, Try watching a few tutorial videos or use FileZilla as a FTP Client. Now all you got to do is drag-and-drop the files into public_html.

I got my eyes on a triple premium for development but the owner is demanding $1.7K for it. Outrageous?

I don't think you understand. I cannot even figure out how to set up a site. :D

 

[bobby9101]

I got my eyes on a triple premium for development but the owner is demanding $1.7K for it. Outrageous?

I've had that happen, bunch of people who have had the domain for 10 years and it has sentimental value + the don't know market prices

 

[Basement]

I got my eyes on a triple premium for development but the owner is demanding $1.7K for it. Outrageous?

did you try to negotiate? maybe you will be able to get it just for high $xx -low $xxx?

Yes, I tried to negotiate and $1.75K is the price he came down to :p
I was prepared to pay $300ish for it and he wanted $2.5K in the beginning. The domain is nothing special, just something I like.

:lol even I used to struggle with cPanel when I started, Try watching a few tutorial videos or use FileZilla as a FTP Client. Now all you got to do is drag-and-drop the files into public_html.

I got my eyes on a triple premium for development but the owner is demanding $1.7K for it. Outrageous?

I don't think you understand. I cannot even figure out how to set up a site. :D

Oh! I didn't know it was that bad. PM me if you need any help.

I got my eyes on a triple premium for development but the owner is demanding $1.7K for it. Outrageous?

I've had that happen, bunch of people who have had the domain for 10 years and it has sentimental value + the don't know market prices

It's been registered in late 2007 and the guy seems to be a domainer from what I can tell.

 

[vlad74]

Yes, I tried to negotiate and $1.75K is the price he came down to :p
I was prepared to pay $300ish for it and he wanted $2.5K in the beginning. The domain is nothing special, just something I like.



Oh! I didn't know it was that bad. PM me if you need any help.



It's been registered in late 2007 and the guy seems to be a domainer from what I can tell.

Do you want to disclose the name of that domain? May be someone of us has something similar in our vaults and can offer it to you even for less than $300?

 

[Basement]

Thanks for offering vlad but the name I have in mind is pretty much niche-specific and there cannot be another name like it. It is totally coined and I just thought for the sake of uniqueness I'd start the project on a 4 letter .net.
I guess, I'll just go in for a regular keywords domain.

Rep added to all who replied.

 

[jooster]

Just picked up KKKL.net, any ideas on fourm value?

 

[rpanella]

Here is some data taken from all LLLL.net that have been taken so far, showing the percentage that each letter appears in each position of the domain. It's interesting to see what letters are more popular or less popular at certain positions. Hopefully this can help some people in determining what domains are best to take. Enjoy

 

[glabnet]

Thanks for nice info rpanella (Can't add rep now )
Bad letter 'Y' on Position 2 better then premium letters 'F' and 'G' and
on Position 4 better then premium letters 'P','G','B','R','H' and 'F'
The best four letters domains:
1. sass
2. asac
3. coca

 

[Basement]

Yeah, I also noticed that and I attribute that to the pronounceability factor that "Y" adds to the domain.
For example, if "Y" comes in the second or fourth place there's a greater chance that the domain is pronounceable than if "Y" comes say in the first place.

 

[rpanella]

Thanks for nice info rpanella (Can't add rep now )
Bad letter 'Y' on Position 2 better then premium letters 'F' and 'G' and
on Position 4 better then premium letters 'P','G','B','R','H' and 'F'
The best four letters domains:
1. sass
2. asac
3. coca

Yep, it makes sense why Y is more common than even some premium letters in the last position, because many pronounceables/CVCV sound good with a Y at the end.

 

[glabnet]

Expired, refunded for period 26.03 09:00 -22:00 GMT

Domains Pattern Quality Rank Google
LUOT.net CVVC PPPB LLLL 21,000,000 Grabbed by me :D
KLDE.net CCCV PPPB LLLL 528000
LGYP.net CCVC PPPB LLLL 232000
KISQ.net CVCC PPBW LLLL 168000
KFEE.net CCVV PPPB LLXX 128000 Ov/mo: 255, Wt/day: 38 Also grabbed by me
WKDW.net CCCC PBBB XLLX 122000
KGSO.net CCCV PPPB LLLL 118000
LISW.net CVCC PPPB LLLL 101000
KFWB.net CCCC PPBB LLLL 93300
KGRR.net CCCC PPPB LLXX 92600
KKEZ.net CCVC PBBW XXLL 91300
DCPK.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 82800
KFRG.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 78000
KGON.net CCVC PPPB LLLL 74700
KFNT.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 74200
FWSH.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 71100
DZKI.net CCCV PPBW LLLL 66100
KGSR.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 63500
KGPT.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 61000
KGMB.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 59800
KLKN.net CCCC PPBB XLXL 57400
KFDK.net CCCC PPBB XLLX 51800
ZCAL.net CCVC PPPW LLLL 50300
KHEY.net CCVV PPBB LLLL 50000
NPUS.net CCVC PPPB LLLL 47500
PRUZ.net CCVC PPBW LLLL 45500
LGWW.net CCCC PPBB LLXX 41200
BEVL.net CVCC PPPB LLLL 39700
NWAT.net CCVC PPPB LLLL 39500
LBEQ.net CCVC PPPW LLLL 38900
OEFU.net VVCV PPPB LLLL 38800
KFIN.net CCVC PPPB LLLL 37500
LHOW.net CCVC PPPB LLLL 36900
KFQD.net CCCC PPBW LLLL 36300
KFFM.net CCCC PPPB LXXL 35700
KKDF.net CCCC PPBB XXLL 33200
LBIX.net CCVC PPPW LLLL 32900
KLAQ.net CCVC PPBW LLLL 32500
WKUK.net CCVC BBBB LXLX 30800
KFBB.net CCCC PPPB LLXX 30600
KLZR.net CCCC PPBW LLLL 30400
KHRT.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 29500
KFRE.net CCCV PPPB LLLL 29300
LGWT.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 29200
LJVM.net CCCC PPBB LLLL 29100
KHCW.net CCCC PPBB LLLL 29000
KKHT.net CCCC PPBB XXLL 28100
KHSL.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 28000
KIJZ.net CVCC PBBW LLLL 24900
NGEY.net CCVV PPPB LLLL 23600
KJEE.net CCVV PPBB LLXX 22400
KKBZ.net CCCC PBBW XXLL 21700
KFFB.net CCCC PPPB LXXL 21500
LBBK.net CCCC PPPB LXXL 21200
KGZV.net CCCC PBBW LLLL 20800
KGGO.net CCCV PPPB LXXL 20700
KIBZ.net CVCC PPBW LLLL 20100
LKVY.net CCCV PBBB LLLL 19700
KDGN.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 19100
PAKV.net CVCC PPBB LLLL 18800
KKOH.net CCVC PPBB XXLL 17700
KEZK.net CVCC PBBW XLLX 17600
KFIZ.net CCVC PPBW LLLL 16800
KJCK.net CCCC PBBB XLLX 16700
KGRG.net CCCC PPPB LXLX 16100
VBTT.net CCCC PPPB LLXX 16000
GLXW.net CCCC PPBW LLLL 16000
QRCD.net CCCC PPPW LLLL 15200
KGOT.net CCVC PPPB LLLL 15200
KFTI.net CCCV PPPB LLLL 15200
DXSS.net CCCC PPPW LLXX 14800
CETX.net CVCC PPPW LLLL 14800
LJAL.net CCVC PPPB XLLX 14700
KGOE.net CCVV PPPB LLLL 14700
KFRU.net CCCV PPBB LLLL 14300
KIOV.net CVVC PPBB LLLL 14000
KKBQ.net CCCC PBBW XXLL 13900
KLNB.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 13800
TSBY.net CCCV PPPB LLLL 13500
KJRA.net CCCV PPBB LLLL 13500
KHPO.net CCCV PPPB LLLL 13500
KLVI.net CCCV PPBB LLLL 13300
KLUU.net CCVV PBBB LLXX 13200
KKYX.net CCVC BBBW XXLL 13200
LLVJ.net CCCC PPBB XXLL 13000
LFVW.net CCCC PPBB LLLL 12700
KKIQ.net CCVC PBBW XXLL 12400
NTZS.net CCCC PPPW LLLL 12200
KLTB.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 11800
KILJ.net CVCC PPBB LLLL 11700
KKGB.net CCCC PPBB XXLL 11600
KJMM.net CCCC PPBB LLXX 11600
VVTR.net CCCC PPBB XXLL 11400
DCXZ.net CCCC PPWW LLLL 11300
VNVD.net CCCC PPBB XLXL 11200
KFLR.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 11100
KKRW.net CCCC PBBB XXLL 11000
KHLS.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 10900
KGCB.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 10700
WMXS.net CCCC PPBW LLLL 10600
KLKI.net CCCV PPBB XLXL 10600
KGLO.net CCCV PPPB LLLL 10600
KHMX.net CCCC PPBW LLLL 10500
SXTI.net CCCV PPPW LLLL 10400
KEZR.net CVCC PPBW LLLL 9370
KLRR.net CCCC PPPB LLXX 9250
CIOJ.net CVVC PPPB LLLL 9250
AWTH.net VCCC PPPB LLLL 9130
AXFN.net VCCC PPPW LLLL 8970
KKLR.net CCCC PPBB XXLL 8950
ZRMX.net CCCC PPWW LLLL 8680
JCUI.net CCVV PPBB LLLL 8550
ZIOH.net CVVC PPPW LLLL 8450
KFSX.net CCCC PPBW LLLL 8330
KGFW.net CCCC PPBB LLLL 8250
KFYO.net CCVV PPBB LLLL 8240
KKRQ.net CCCC PBBW XXLL 8160
WKZL.net CCCC PBBW LLLL 8110
LHUH.net CCVC PPPB LXLX 8000
CFQM.net CCCC PPPW LLLL 7880
WQRS.net CCCC PPBW LLLL 7790
WQYZ.net CCVC BBWW LLLL 7780
MUZN.net CVCC PPBW LLLL 7770
KKCY.net CCCV PBBB XXLL 7750
KGLG.net CCCC PPPB LXLX 7300
AXQD.net VCCC PPWW LLLL 7190
ZXIA.net CCVV PPWW LLLL 7060
KFAV.net CCVC PPBB LLLL 7040
KKRV.net CCCC PBBB XXLL 6980
LKDE.net CCCV PPPB LLLL 6890
KFFX.net CCCC PPBW LXXL 6680
BKGH.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 6570
KGWB.net CCCC PPBB LLLL 6520
KGKI.net CCCV PPBB XLXL 6510
XFHY.net CCCV PPBW LLLL 6480
KJWL.net CCCC PBBB LLLL 6470
LBPV.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 6300
KEZJ.net CVCC PBBW LLLL 6290
UCPK.net VCCC PPBB LLLL 6200
KGNZ.net CCCC PPBW LLLL 6100
LFMQ.net CCCC PPPW LLLL 5960
DUMR.net CVCC PPPB LLLL 5610
KKOJ.net CCVC PBBB XXLL 5560
LGRV.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 5540
RJKS.net CCCC PPBB LLLL 5520
KJZI.net CCCV PBBW LLLL 5420
LMVI.net CCCV PPPB LLLL 5340
LMAU.net CCVV PPPB LLLL 5260
KJLI.net CCCV PPBB LLLL 5250
DSCQ.net CCCC PPPW LLLL 5250
BNJZ.net CCCC PPBW LLLL 5190
KKQY.net CCCV BBBW XXLL 5090
LHEV.net CCVC PPPB LLLL 5000
LDEY.net CCVV PPPB LLLL 4970
KGTW.net CCCC PPBB LLLL 4890
KKYR.net CCVC PBBB XXLL 4860
KLVW.net CCCC PBBB LLLL 4820
KKPZ.net CCCC PBBW XXLL 4800
FDVM.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 4790
KIXR.net CVCC PPBW LLLL 4770
LCXL.net CCCC PPPW XLLX 4590
AQCF.net VCCC PPPW LLLL 4520
QWZJ.net CCCC BBWW LLLL 4510
YLKL.net VCCC PPBB LXLX 4500
DNLK.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 4130
ZRQA.net CCCV PPWW LLLL 4040
YAMQ.net VVCC PPBW LLLL 4030
YMTF.net VCCC PPPB LLLL 4020
JOXT.net CVCC PPBW LLLL 3900
UTGL.net VCCC PPPB LLLL 3890
DQLS.net CCCC PPPW LLLL 3860
NJDY.net CCCV PPBB LLLL 3810
KFEX.net CCVC PPBW LLLL 3730
KHSQ.net CCCC PPBW LLLL 3680
ZOYZ.net CVVC PBWW XLLX 3520
KLPU.net CCCV PPBB LLLL 3510
CWOI.net CCVV PPPB LLLL 3440
YEKN.net VVCC PPBB LLLL 3430
KJMI.net CCCV PPBB LLLL 3410
KHPQ.net CCCC PPBW LLLL 3230
QUJJ.net CVCC BBBW LLXX 3130
LDRJ.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 3100
ZMRL.net CCCC PPPW LLLL 2960
WYWC.net CVCC PBBB XLXL 2850
KHFO.net CCCV PPPB LLLL 2850
TQQC.net CCCC PPWW LXXL 2790
ODBX.net VCCC PPPW LLLL 2780
FSUX.net CCVC PPBW LLLL 2720
MKGV.net CCCC PPBB LLLL 2540
LFIW.net CCVC PPPB LLLL 2510
LKJW.net CCCC PBBB LLLL 2500
NTZH.net CCCC PPPW LLLL 2270
KJMQ.net CCCC PBBW LLLL 2260
FBVK.net CCCC PPBB LLLL 1790
SJYN.net CCVC PPBB LLLL 1710
RSNK.net CCCC PPPB LLLL 863

 

[vlad74]

George, is it also technically possible to add if these names are pronounceable or not?

 

[glabnet]

George, is it also technically possible to add if these names are pronounceable or not?

Only by hand after testing with TextAloud or any similar program (Babylon,...)

 

[vlad74]

Only by hand after testing with TextAloud or any similar program (Babylon,...)

 

[Shenron]

Some % of pronounceability could be added imho.
Something like this:

VCVC
CVCV

Are typically more pronounceable, off course depends on letters, thus the %

Asap gets 100%
Aqop gets 50%
Cola gets 100%
Qyxi gets let's say 70%

Then we have repeating letters:

LOLL gets 95%
Kkex gets 90%
Goog gets 90%

Then h

Lhen can get 80%

And we have many many other good examples

Names like rtzx get 0%

I guess we can develop some idea around this and bug glabnet to script it.

 

[Alex]

Names like rtzx get 0%

No, it can be pronounced like eR Tee Zet iX. :sold:

Just as an IMHO, pronouncability has a lot more to do with branding. Branding has to do with .com (mainly).

However on another note (and I know I may write the same things again), I see the only hope of LLLL.net investors is more players joining the game. People here even express this desire and take this into calculation maybe as the first source of potential buyer.

I still think there is no real market for LLLL.net's and there is a false one that does not fill in any real need, in fact a market is artificially created. But do feel free to not agree with me.

 

[Basement]

That's exactly what I too used to think about LLLL.net's till I analyzed the whole thing a little more closely.

I totally agree with you about the brandability offered by only .com's but the same old arguments of an end-user's budget come to the surface again.

It is certainly not a artificial market, in fact it is as real as it's .com counterpart :p
Maybe, anti-premium and low-quality 4L.net's don't have a future but the higher-end names surely have a bright future ahead.