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It was only a matter of time... First King Com. Then .CN fell. And now... I present to you LLLL.net :!:

This thread is designed to elicit discussion about LLLL.nets. You're encouraged to post anything you feel is relevant to LLLL.nets in this thread. This includes sales information, new regs, ...

Feb 05, 2008: All quad premium LLLL.nets are registered
 
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164 double letters next to each other left:

Code:
GGBF.NET
GGBR.NET
GGBT.NET
GGCR.NET
GGFN.NET
GGHD.NET
GGHP.NET
GGLH.NET
GGLN.NET
GGML.NET
GGND.NET
GGNP.NET
GGNT.NET
GGPB.NET
GGPE.NET
GGPF.NET
GGPL.NET
GGRD.NET
GGRL.NET
GGRM.NET
GGRP.NET
GGTF.NET
HHFD.NET
HHFL.NET
HHFR.NET
HHFT.NET
HHGR.NET
HHLB.NET
HHLD.NET
HHLE.NET
HHLG.NET
HHMB.NET
HHMF.NET
HHMN.NET
HHNF.NET
HHNG.NET
HHPE.NET
HHPN.NET
HHRB.NET
HHSE.NET
HHTB.NET
LLBH.NET
LLDH.NET
LLHN.NET
LLMH.NET
LLNH.NET
LLRH.NET
FLLG.NET
GHHM.NET
GLLB.NET
GLLN.NET
GNNF.NET
GNNL.NET
GNNM.NET
GNNP.NET
GRRH.NET
HGGE.NET
HGGT.NET
HLLB.NET
HLLF.NET
HLLG.NET
HLLN.NET
HNNM.NET
LDDF.NET
LFFB.NET
LFFE.NET
LFFG.NET
LFFH.NET
LFFM.NET
LFFR.NET
LFFT.NET
LGGE.NET
LGGR.NET
LHHB.NET
LHHD.NET
LHHE.NET
LHHF.NET
LHHG.NET
LHHM.NET
LPPG.NET
LRRG.NET
LRRH.NET
LTTH.NET
MGGF.NET
MGGH.NET
MGGN.NET
MGGT.NET
MLLH.NET
NGGF.NET
NGGH.NET
OHHF.NET
FGLL.NET
FMPP.NET
FMRR.NET
FPGG.NET
FPHH.NET
FRLL.NET
GBHH.NET
GDRR.NET
GHPP.NET
GMFF.NET
GMHH.NET
GMNN.NET
GMRR.NET
GNDD.NET
GNFF.NET
GPFF.NET
GPRR.NET
GTHH.NET
HBTT.NET
HCFF.NET
HCRR.NET
HGDD.NET
HGNN.NET
HGRR.NET
HLNN.NET
HMLL.NET
HMTT.NET
HNRR.NET
HPGG.NET
HSPP.NET
HTFF.NET
HTLL.NET
HTRR.NET
LBGG.NET
LBHH.NET
LDFF.NET
LFDD.NET
LFHH.NET
LFRR.NET
LGFF.NET
LHNN.NET
LMFF.NET
LMHH.NET
LNFF.NET
LNGG.NET
LPFF.NET
LPGG.NET
LRGG.NET
LRHH.NET
LSFF.NET
LTHH.NET
MBHH.NET
MFHH.NET
MGHH.NET
MHGG.NET
MNHH.NET
MPHH.NET
NGFF.NET
NGHH.NET
OFGG.NET
OFHH.NET
OFLL.NET
OGHH.NET
OHLL.NET
OLGG.NET
OMHH.NET
OTHH.NET
PDHH.NET
PFDD.NET
PFLL.NET
PGFF.NET
PHGG.NET
PLHH.NET
 
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jjdomainer said:
Im talking bare minimum monday morning, or whenever they are all gone...or is that when you are already expecting your $40-$50 each for this to be a success?


oh sorry no, I`d say a couple of months just because there will be some people happy to fllip them for just few $$

I would not have spent the time scanning lists in the past 2 days if I just wanted to double my investment.
 
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harkster said:
What are considered 'bad' letters other than QXZ and maybe Y?
hi :) - it may be useful to check VURG's analysis of the remaining unregistered LLLL.com containing "bad" letters as of August 5th 2008 (4 months pre-buyout / 46,000 LLLL.com left) in this NP thread ->
VURG said:
Letter Number Available % of Available
j 3724 18.5%
k 3335 16.5%
q 10576 52.5%
u 3641 18.1%
v 7736 38.4%
w 3285 16.3%
x 5299 26.3%
y 3334 16.5%
z 5678 28.2%

(I wonder how close the remaining "bad letter" LLLL.net breakdown will line up with how the LLLL.com "last to go" ranking stood at that point.)


jjdomainer said:
I feel its safe to at least expect a jump to $10-$12 once the last 3000 premiums are gone...would you say thats a fair bet??
Fair bet, maybe ... though wouldn't say it's a "sure thing" - next week might see a lot of LLLL.net fans just taking a breather ... and if too many people overbought expecting to flip at $12 and really need that money back right away, then they'll be happy enough to get $8 or whatever (33% ROI for holding just a week isn't too bad either when you look at it that way.) It took LLLL.com a couple weeks into November to find a floor at $12, and I was picking up "triple premium" LLLL.com for under $20 for a while ... $30 seemed to be even just a bit on the high side for many LLLL.com until January.

So wouldn't want to overestimate the near-term jump for premium LLLL.net - and people's definition of "premium" as in "worth more than reg fee" may be somewhat elastic when for every single "some flipper fluffing an all-premium LLLL.net but for some reason willing to let it go for just $12" aftermarket buy, LLLL.net fans can still look for 2 decent if not entirely "good letter" LLLL.net at reg fee probably many many months yet to come -

Tough for me to predict - too many factors involved (and I don't have a long history of post-buyout experience to draw on either). Maybe someone else can give you a better idea of what to expect - my best guess is the proverbial "50/50" chance - either it will or it won't jump to $12. I'd say $8 is a much safer bet for the very near term, $10 quite likely, but I wouldn't bet the farm on seeing $12 right away.
 
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filter said:
Tough for me to predict - too many factors involved (and I don't have a long history of post-buyout experience to draw on either). Maybe someone else can give you a better idea of what to expect - my best guess is the proverbial "50/50" chance - either it will or it won't jump to $12. I'd say $8 is a much safer bet for the very near term, $10 quite likely, but I wouldn't bet the farm on seeing $12 right away.


Thank you for that response....I hope not too many are willing to sell for $10 but it is definitely still a guessing game as of right now :/
 
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I`d like to say that after regging just 4 of them (to test the Registrar) at Estdoamains at $4.99 each , I regged about 250 at Godaddy since it`s better value for money.
GoDaddy does not charge for the DNS managment while Est Domains does ($0.49 for each name) so with the coupon you reg them at $6 at Godaddy and does not charge extra fees on PayPal purchases. Without the DNS managment you can`t even list them on SEDO or park them , missing out opportunities of selling them to endusers or getting some parking revenue.


So really, just to save what? $0.40 for each one? I would go safer with GoDaddy knowing that when I have to sell any, buyer will prefer sellers with names at GoDaddy (especially if you sell them on eBay) , in the long run the benefits are more.

jjdomainer said:
Thank you for that response....I hope not too many are willing to sell for $10 but it is definitely still a guessing game as of right now :/

Do you really think people waste their time for that little money?

I`m sure on eBay these will pick up sooner than here just like happened for the LLLL.com

But yes, there will be the first couple of months for the flippers to get out with their peanuts.
 
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I took all ggXX.net from your list..
thanks

rpanella said:
164 double letters next to each other left:

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GGBF.NET
GGBR.NET
GGBT.NET
GGCR.NET
GGFN.NET
GGHD.NET
GGHP.NET
GGLH.NET
GGLN.NET
GGML.NET
GGND.NET
GGNP.NET
GGNT.NET
GGPB.NET
GGPE.NET
GGPF.NET
GGPL.NET
GGRD.NET
GGRL.NET
GGRM.NET
GGRP.NET
GGTF.NET
HHFD.NET
HHFL.NET
HHFR.NET
HHFT.NET
HHGR.NET
HHLB.NET
HHLD.NET
HHLE.NET
HHLG.NET
HHMB.NET
HHMF.NET
HHMN.NET
HHNF.NET
HHNG.NET
HHPE.NET
HHPN.NET
HHRB.NET
HHSE.NET
HHTB.NET
LLBH.NET
LLDH.NET
LLHN.NET
LLMH.NET
LLNH.NET
LLRH.NET
FLLG.NET
GHHM.NET
GLLB.NET
GLLN.NET
GNNF.NET
GNNL.NET
GNNM.NET
GNNP.NET
GRRH.NET
HGGE.NET
HGGT.NET
HLLB.NET
HLLF.NET
HLLG.NET
HLLN.NET
HNNM.NET
LDDF.NET
LFFB.NET
LFFE.NET
LFFG.NET
LFFH.NET
LFFM.NET
LFFR.NET
LFFT.NET
LGGE.NET
LGGR.NET
LHHB.NET
LHHD.NET
LHHE.NET
LHHF.NET
LHHG.NET
LHHM.NET
LPPG.NET
LRRG.NET
LRRH.NET
LTTH.NET
MGGF.NET
MGGH.NET
MGGN.NET
MGGT.NET
MLLH.NET
NGGF.NET
NGGH.NET
OHHF.NET
FGLL.NET
FMPP.NET
FMRR.NET
FPGG.NET
FPHH.NET
FRLL.NET
GBHH.NET
GDRR.NET
GHPP.NET
GMFF.NET
GMHH.NET
GMNN.NET
GMRR.NET
GNDD.NET
GNFF.NET
GPFF.NET
GPRR.NET
GTHH.NET
HBTT.NET
HCFF.NET
HCRR.NET
HGDD.NET
HGNN.NET
HGRR.NET
HLNN.NET
HMLL.NET
HMTT.NET
HNRR.NET
HPGG.NET
HSPP.NET
HTFF.NET
HTLL.NET
HTRR.NET
LBGG.NET
LBHH.NET
LDFF.NET
LFDD.NET
LFHH.NET
LFRR.NET
LGFF.NET
LHNN.NET
LMFF.NET
LMHH.NET
LNFF.NET
LNGG.NET
LPFF.NET
LPGG.NET
LRGG.NET
LRHH.NET
LSFF.NET
LTHH.NET
MBHH.NET
MFHH.NET
MGHH.NET
MHGG.NET
MNHH.NET
MPHH.NET
NGFF.NET
NGHH.NET
OFGG.NET
OFHH.NET
OFLL.NET
OGHH.NET
OHLL.NET
OLGG.NET
OMHH.NET
OTHH.NET
PDHH.NET
PFDD.NET
PFLL.NET
PGFF.NET
PHGG.NET
PLHH.NET
 
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Domains starting with A, B, C, D, E, I, S, T - All Gone

Next to Go - N
 
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italiandragon said:
I`d like to say that after regging just 4 of them (to test the Registrar) at Estdoamains at $4.99 each , I regged about 250 at Godaddy since it`s better value for money.
GoDaddy does not charge for the DNS managment while Est Domains does ($0.49 for each name) so with the coupon you reg them at $6 at Godaddy and does not charge extra fees on PayPal purchases. Without the DNS managment you can`t even list them on SEDO or park them , missing out opportunities of selling them to endusers or getting some parking revenue.


So really, just to save what? $0.40 for each one? I would go safer with GoDaddy knowing that when I have to sell any, buyer will prefer sellers with names at GoDaddy (especially if you sell them on eBay) , in the long run the benefits are more.



Do you really think people waste their time for that little money?

I`m sure on eBay these will pick up sooner than here just like happened for the LLLL.com

But yes, there will be the first couple of months for the flippers to get out with their peanuts.
u can change nameservers without any problems. DNS management means creating seperate A, MX, records for ur domains which is not really required if u just wanna park
 
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How many pre left :) )
 
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madman12 said:
I am using some of my parking profits for them. Nice of park to pay every two weeks makes it easier to do this when you know in 4 days you get paid again

Gotta love parked. Half day of parking and one is already getting clicks lol

mdpg.net 1 3 $640.00 300.00% $0.21 $0.64

g-
 
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I agree very much with what filter said above.

What people have to remember is that this is not a complete LLLL.net buyout, but only a premium letter buyout. As far as I know almost all the LLLL.com quad premiums were gone about 2 years before the complete LLLL.com buyout last November. Based on this and the sheer amount of total LLLL.net left, it is likely it will be at least another year more likely 2 before all LLLL.nets are gone.

So you can't really compare this buyout with the recent LLLL.com buyout. Crappy letter domains bought at the end of the .com buyout are going for anywhere around 40-50 now, meaning a 600%-700% return in 3 months which is amazing. With these premium .nets, we won't see that kind of jump that quick as long as the 220k remaining llll.nets are out there, because why would someone pay 50 bucks for a quad premium when they can still buy triple premium + U or Y for reg fee?

I do think these are a wise investment long term, and have bought 2500+ myself in the last couple days, so I'm not trying to bash them, but I think those hoping to flip in a just a few weeks for 3x reg fee might be disappointed (though it would be nice if I'm wrong about this ;) ). You may be able to make a couple bucks on each short term but I would suggest holding them for awhile if you can afford to. I think they will pay off much bigger in the long run.
 
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BladeMaster said:
Domains starting with A, B, C, D, E, I, S, T - All Gone

Next to Go - N

I grabbed some of the Exxx and was going to grab more. Oh well... The one good thing about E is that its as close to a LLL as you will get with a LLLL (That and I).

g-
 
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champ_rock said:
u can change nameservers without any problems. DNS management means creating seperate A, MX, records for ur domains which is not really required if u just wanna park


REALLY???

Oh.....I feel so dumb....at whiz.in there was the same thing and I bought DNS managment for my LLL.in last year :'(

There....I do mistakes too (this one is because of lack of English knowledge I guess )
 
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italiandragon said:
REALLY???

Oh.....I feel so dumb....at whiz.in there was the same thing and I bought DNS managment for my LLL.in last year :'(

There....I do mistakes too (this one is because of lack of English knowledge I guess )
lol.. i have been using estdomains for a lot of time .they are decent enough and their prices are quite good for domains that u just plan to hoard up. may be u can transfer when they are abt to expire but that also saves u decent amount if u save a few cents each
 
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italiandragon said:
[...]

Do you really think people waste their time for that little money?
Yes. It's a buyout phenomenon. From personal experience: with L-L-L.com - I wasn't a big believer, but wanted to grab a couple "just in case" ... I had $250 I was planning to use on other things in the coming week, but figured I could just buy a bunch at reg-fee and then sell most of them later for $10 or whatever. As luck would have it, I didn't actually sell any the next week, and prices for L-L-L.com soon went up to $25 and up - I waited a few weeks and then sold enough at $30 to $50 to get my $250 back - and then I had my "free nest egg" to sit on ...

With LLLL.net - I bought about 50 in December, planning to keep only 10 and sell the other 40 at $10 each, again for the "free nest egg" plus a few $ extra for my time ... A week later I put NBOI .net up on eBay with a $9.99 minimum bid - no takers. So I didn't follow through with plan to flip the rest, seemed like more trouble than it would be worth (also, seeing someone selling premium LLLL.net for $8 / $7.50 volume here on NP - I actually bought a few that I liked from him - better to buy than to sell at that price as far as I was concerned).

Noticing another angle to my own "buyout flip scheme" psychology ... Once I "buy" into something (ie, put money into it whether or not I really believe in it for the longer term), I tend to start paying more attention to that market, and often end up absorbing enough information/propoganda to actually now truly "believe" in it a bit more. (It's a well-known psychological phenomenon often exploited by sales people and other professional persuaders - "cognitive dissonance" reduction is one of the driving forces, some other interesting mind games at work here as well - group identity, social reinforcement, lots of good stuff! I know a bit about it and still am not immune to it.)

Anyway ... long story short - it's a safe bet that enough people will buy planning on doing quick flips, and some of them actually will need to sell at whatever price, probably lower than they hoped to get. Others will "become believers" and change their plans, either waiting longer for their target price, or deciding to hold for the long term once they've endured the temporary "spent more than I planned to and didn't get that money back yet" week or month after they bought in - and then find themselves pleasantly surprised that they did better than they expected to in the long run ... or not.
 
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Not Preemies - but again, if you like the y as a vowel,
then their VCVC's

abyk.net
abyd.net
abyv.net
abyj.net
afyx.net

afuz.net
aeju.net

available for registration
:)
 
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IMO 3x is a nice target on something like this. But at 5 bucks a pop it is worth waiting to see what prices are in 3-4 months. Remember this is a gamble and you should not be spending the rent money here. I will only be in with 150+- names so if it flops It won't hurt bad. On the other side 15-20x return would be nice.

Only time will tell.
 
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I bought some nice LLLL.net's, but as Hark says, don't spend the rent money. Even though the odds are in our favor, this will still take some time. Even if you hate LLLL.net's, but a couple; they're only $5 a piece.

If I had only bought one LLL.com, and I was standing right there in the middle of it.
 
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