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NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER!
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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.
 
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poker_bears said:
I miss this thread :(

:lol:

I think I used to have a love/hate opinion on the thread. I had to keep checking it but it used up so much time.
 
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This thread reminds me that night of nov. 2 ;)
 
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One of the first responces to this thread was just under two years:

At the moment the only valuable names are those pronunciable and brandable I guess, and obviously the meaningful ones.

...I wonder how many people are wishing they had regged a few more LLLL.com names back then...

The upcoming year will really tell if the market can hold and raise the price of LLLL.com domain as we have seen in recent weeks. If domain speculators and investors horde their names and drops begin to diminish we will see a steady (although not heart stopping) rise in the LLLL.com marketplace.

Rich B-)
 
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hey - if they all start dropping like flies later next year then at least we can have a great reverse countdown thread !!!

(when pigs fly, that is ...) :)
 
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If that happens I will be cherry picking the good ones to hold onto for the next buyout in a few years time! :)
 
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filter said:
hey - if they all start dropping like flies later next year then at least we can have a great reverse countdown thread !!!

(when pigs fly, that is ...) :)

we all are waiting for the moment :hehe:
 
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those who missed the boad shoul pay attention to nn-n/ll-l/n-nn/l-ll.coms
 
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There are a few NPers here who're catching a large proportion of the LLLL's that are dropping and a few like me who're using this as an opportunity to get some cheap names (these guys are happy to sell at $5+ under the going rate to fund tomorrow's drop). I'd look into that before looking elsewhere.

And... I missed this thread too :xf.love: Been a regular reader since March '07 :)
 
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yeah, right now I am a regular at snapnames and ebay LLLL auctions ;)
buying the one's I like, hoping to be a bit richer this time next year :)
 
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after this thread there was an opportunity to get a life but I'm over that now :(
 
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floatingworld said:
after this thread there was an opportunity to get a life but I'm over that now :(

LOL! Great to see all the regulars here once again :)

This thread is such a classic... It should be stickied mandatory reading :imho:
 
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..the one thing that would have spoiled the party would have been the regular daily drops piling up in the corner as predicted by some domainers...it has never happened..they have all been hoovered up as soon as they touch the floor (is there any evidence to the contrary?) so that now the floor has decisively moved above reg fee...even if the default price has moved to just $10 all those who have a portfolio of say 300 names purchased at GD for say $7.50, will now have a 33% markup on their investment of $100. Now do they take the money or slap down the renewal fee of $7.50 * 300? most will I predict sell some to support the rest....
 
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Minimum price: $10? I was happy that I bought an anti premium for $15 not long ago :). If people have LLLL.com's for $10, please PM me :)
 
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Yes at the moment we are way above $10. Only random bad letter names can be bought for approx $15 a piece... unless you are really lucky! $20-$25 seems to be the going rate for a double plus 2 bad or 2/3 premium letters depending on the name...

Rich B-)
 
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I've been out of the domaining game for a long while now - it feels good to return and find you're sitting on a sizeable nest egg. I think I'm going to cash in next year and buy a big screen plasma tv for my student apartment. :D
 
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edited, wrong thread
 
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