LL.pw, LN.pw, NL.pw, NN.pw

[Ms Domainer]

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As many of you know, on March 28, 2013, the .pw registry released some cc.pw for reg fee--up for grabs, first come, first serve.

Did you get any .pw domains? If so, do you have any development plans for them/it?

Yeah, I know this is a cr@p ccTLD, but it's not easy or cheap to own 2-character domains in ANY TLD. I thought it was worth a shot.

Okay, I'll start.

I tried for 2 LL.wp and got 1:

wx.pw​

I plan to flip it. It's already on Sedo.

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[xman]

The deals are out there, you just have to find them quick enough. If you do a search on NP you won't see many LL.biz names listed in the recent past (probably because there isn't a very big market for them right now) but I'm certain if you were browsing around at the right time you could pick up a poor-lettered LL.biz from someone needing to sell for around $200. If it were double premium then obviously we would be talking more..

The LL.biz is just an example (and a pretty good one) that it's going to be a while before you see any kind of real value to an LL.pw, LN.pw or NL.pw domain. Just my opinion but be prepared to hold onto it and pay a couple renewals before you may get $100 for it..

I will keep my eyes open then. I don't have two letter .biz in my portfolio so I would like to have some of them.

I'm a log trem short domains investor but I only acquire the meaningful ones.

.PW doesn't attract me to be honest I would rather have .VC

But then again, if they can find the use for it I think they will have value

 

[bashishtha]

Nobody is going to pay $50 or $100 for a LN.pw unless it's going to be sometime from now. Honestly, I believe that time will come after you've paid at least one or two renewal fees on that..

The renewal fees will not be $4.49..They will probably be at least $9.99 and even after you pay one or two of those it's too early to say right now if there will even be a market for them. Seeing that there is no market for an LL.biz domain right now, I highly doubt an even newer ccTLD is going to become in more demand anytime soon.

Ya no one can guarantee that but for $4.49 it is totally worth buying. I am not going for the cTLDs like .gy that has $99 reg fees.....Its $4.49 and it is best amount to give a try.
Even if it does not sells I would make my URL shortner... :D:wave:

 

[ioana_bv]

.gy is about $50 usually ($47.99 at name.com).
Yea, good idea, now any two letter/character domain can be an URL shortening site, just like any unused domain could be a web directory about 3-4 years ago.
I'm not saying registering a LL.pw was a bad move, in fact if I knew there was any available I'd register it myself but not for reselling purposes.
I'm too looking for LL.biz if they are for sale at very low $xxx .

 

[FPForum]

There are enough investors out there to buy out the LL domains in just about any extension. Especially one with a $4.49 reg fee..Therefor, if you're able to get one it wouldn't necessarily be a waste of money. Some will choose to stay away and some will choose to take a chance.. I do think the LN and NL would be pretty bad investments though. But..Once again, there will be enough investors out there willing to pay the registry to get the names so those will all be taken as well.

Search Flippa for W8 and view the ended listings to see what the domain W8,biz sold for a few weeks back..It barely cleared the $100 mark. You can find similar deals although slightly higher for LL.biz domains it's just you don't see them listed often and when their priced to sell they sell quickly.

Not trying to say anyone who bought an LL.pw is screwed or anything..They will be worth reg. fee just because there are enough investors to register all of them. I just personally don't think many will be selling for big bucks anytime soon (unless they are premium letters). On another note, be careful with your URL shortening scripts..I started one a while back and found that lots of people would shorten an affiliate link and then spam the crap out of the redirect link - which is your domain. That means all the complaints and reports will be coming back to your and your shortened .PW domain. Just something I learned from personal experience starting a URL shortening website..

 

[bashishtha]

.gy is about $50 usually ($47.99 at name.com).
Yea, good idea, now any two letter/character domain can be an URL shortening site, just like any unused domain could be a web directory about 3-4 years ago.
I'm not saying registering a LL.pw was a bad move, in fact if I knew there was any available I'd register it myself but not for reselling purposes.
I'm too looking for LL.biz if they are for sale at very low $xxx .

I know that we all agree to the same point that "REGISTERING 2 CHARACTER .PW DOMAIN WAS NOT A BAD MOVE"

I am just happy that I got a opportunity to get them for less than a Fiverr... Thats all....
And I am not going to make URL shortner becoz I am aware about thousands of crappy URL shortners out there......but we all know that we can use them for our branding projects... :D

 

[Domainstore]

The list of CC's made available by the .PW-registry was limited.
This was the list (I could register 8 CC's, and if I had found sooner a cheap registrar I could have had also some of the LL's in it, but these were gone in the 1st 10 minutes). =>
ONLY THESE WERE MADE AVAILABLE => 7 hours after 10:00 they were al registerred. (The other LL's and CC's are 'reserved' by the registry)
: 0 : : 1 : : 2 : : 3 : : 4 : : 5 : : 6 : : 7 : : 8 : : 9 :
0a.pw 1a.pw 2a.pw 3a.pw 4a.pw 5a.pw 6a.pw 7a.pw 8a.pw 9a.pw
0b.pw 1b.pw 2c.pw 3b.pw 4b.pw 5b.pw 6b.pw 7b.pw 8b.pw 9b.pw
0c.pw 1c.pw 2d.pw 3c.pw 4c.pw 5c.pw 6c.pw 7c.pw 8c.pw 9c.pw
0d.pw 1d.pw 2e.pw 3e.pw 4e.pw 5d.pw 6d.pw 7d.pw 8d.pw 9d.pw
0e.pw 1e.pw 2f.pw 3f.pw 4f.pw 5e.pw 6e.pw 7e.pw 8e.pw 9e.pw
0f.pw 1f.pw 2g.pw 3h.pw 4h.pw 5f.pw 6f.pw 7f.pw 8f.pw 9f.pw
0g.pw 1g.pw 2h.pw 3i.pw 4i.pw 5h.pw 6h.pw 7h.pw 8h.pw 9h.pw
0h.pw 1h.pw 2i.pw 3j.pw 4j.pw 5i.pw 6i.pw 7i.pw 8i.pw 9i.pw
0i.pw 1i.pw 2j.pw 3k.pw 4k.pw 5j.pw 6j.pw 7j.pw 8j.pw 9j.pw
0j.pw 1j.pw 2k.pw 3l.pw 4l.pw 5k.pw 6k.pw 7k.pw 8k.pw 9k.pw
0k.pw 1k.pw 2l.pw 3n.pw 4m.pw 5l.pw 6l.pw 7l.pw 8l.pw 9l.pw
0l.pw 1l.pw 2m.pw 3o.pw 4n.pw 5m.pw 6m.pw 7m.pw 8m.pw 9m.pw
0m.pw 1m.pw 2n.pw 3p.pw 4o.pw 5n.pw 6n.pw 7n.pw 8n.pw 9n.pw
0n.pw 1n.pw 2o.pw 3q.pw 4p.pw 5o.pw 6o.pw 7o.pw 8o.pw 9o.pw
0o.pw 1o.pw 2p.pw 3r.pw 4q.pw 5p.pw 6p.pw 7p.pw 8p.pw 9p.pw
0p.pw 1p.pw 2q.pw 3t.pw 4r.pw 5q.pw 6q.pw 7q.pw 8q.pw 9q.pw
0q.pw 1q.pw 2r.pw 3u.pw 4s.pw 5r.pw 6r.pw 7r.pw 8r.pw 9r.pw
0r.pw 1r.pw 2s.pw 3v.pw 4t.pw 5s.pw 6s.pw 7s.pw 8s.pw 9s.pw
0s.pw 1s.pw 2t.pw 3w.pw 4u.pw 5t.pw 6t.pw 7t.pw 8t.pw 9t.pw
0t.pw 1t.pw 2v.pw 3x.pw 4v.pw 5u.pw 6u.pw 7u.pw 8u.pw 9u.pw
0u.pw 1u.pw 2w.pw 3y.pw 4w.pw 5v.pw 6v.pw 7v.pw 8v.pw 9v.pw
0v.pw 1v.pw 2x.pw 3z.pw 4x.pw 5w.pw 6w.pw 7w.pw 8w.pw 9w.pw
0w.pw 1w.pw 2y.pw 4y.pw 5x.pw 6x.pw 7x.pw 8x.pw 9x.pw
0y.pw 1x.pw 2z.pw E 4z.pw 5y.pw 6y.pw 7y.pw 8y.pw 9y.pw
0z.pw 1y.pw e0.pw 5z.pw 6z.pw 7z.pw 8z.pw 9z.pw
1z.pw D e1.pw F
B d0.pw e2.pw f0.pw G H I J K
b0.pw C d1.pw e3.pw f1.pw g0.pw h0.pw i0.pw j0.pw k0.pw
b2.pw c0.pw d2.pw e4.pw f2.pw g1.pw h1.pw i1.pw j1.pw k1.pw
b3.pw c1.pw d3.pw e5.pw f3.pw g2.pw h2.pw i2.pw j2.pw k2.pw
b4.pw c2.pw d4.pw e6.pw f4.pw g3.pw h3.pw i3.pw j3.pw k3.pw
b5.pw c3.pw d5.pw e7.pw f5.pw g4.pw h4.pw i4.pw j4.pw k4.pw
b6.pw c4.pw d6.pw e8.pw f6.pw g5.pw h5.pw i5.pw j5.pw k5.pw
b7.pw c5.pw d7.pw e9.pw f7.pw g7.pw h6.pw i6.pw j6.pw k6.pw
b8.pw c6.pw d8.pw ey.pw f8.pw g8.pw h7.pw i7.pw j7.pw k7.pw
b9.pw c7.pw d9.pw f9.pw g9.pw h8.pw i8.pw j8.pw k8.pw
c8.pw O h9.pw i9.pw j9.pw k9.pw
L c9.pw N o0.pw P Q hx.pw jq.pw kq.pw
l0.pw n0.pw o1.pw p0.pw q0.pw S jx.pw kx.pw
l1.pw M n1.pw o2.pw p1.pw q1.pw R s0.pw jy.pw
l2.pw m0.pw n2.pw o3.pw p2.pw q2.pw r0.pw s1.pw jz.pw U
l3.pw m1.pw n3.pw o4.pw p3.pw q3.pw r1.pw s2.pw u0.pw
l4.pw m2.pw n4.pw o5.pw p4.pw q4.pw r2.pw s3.pw T u1.pw
l5.pw m3.pw n5.pw o6.pw p5.pw q5.pw r3.pw s4.pw t0.pw u2.pw
l6.pw m4.pw n6.pw o7.pw p6.pw q6.pw r4.pw s5.pw t1.pw u3.pw
l7.pw m5.pw n7.pw o8.pw p7.pw q7.pw r5.pw s6.pw t2.pw u4.pw
l8.pw m6.pw n8.pw o9.pw p8.pw q8.pw r6.pw s7.pw t3.pw u5.pw
l9.pw m7.pw n9.pw oq.pw p9.pw q9.pw r7.pw s8.pw t4.pw u6.pw
m8.pw nq.pw oy.pw qg.pw r8.pw s9.pw t5.pw u7.pw
V m9.pw Z qh.pw r9.pw t6.pw u8.pw
v0.pw X Y z0.pw qj.pw ry.pw t7.pw u9.pw
v1.pw W x0.pw y0.pw z1.pw qk.pw t8.pw uj.pw
v2.pw w0.pw x1.pw y1.pw z2.pw qn.pw t9.pw uq.pw
v3.pw w1.pw x2.pw y2.pw z3.pw qo.pw
v4.pw w2.pw x3.pw y3.pw z4.pw qu.pw
v5.pw w3.pw x4.pw y4.pw z5.pw qx.pw
v6.pw w4.pw x5.pw y5.pw z6.pw qy.pw
v7.pw w5.pw x6.pw y6.pw z7.pw qz.pw
v8.pw w6.pw x7.pw y7.pw z8.pw
v9.pw w7.pw x8.pw y8.pw z9.pw
vy.pw w8.pw x9.pw y9.pw ze.pw
vz.pw w9.pw xb.pw yd.pw zj.pw
wj.pw xc.pw yf.pw zk.pw
wx.pw xg.pw yh.pw zq.pw
wy.pw xh.pw yj.pw zv.pw
xi.pw yk.pw zx.pw
xj.pw yl.pw zy.pw
xk.pw yn.pw
xm.pw yq.pw
xn.pw yv.pw
xq.pw yx.pw
xu.pw yz.pw
xv.pw
xz.pw

 

[bashishtha]

Well I was already aware of that and I think cheapest was name.com

 

[Ms Domainer]

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Are all these gone now?

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[xman]

If I didn't have enough short domains I would have taken the following from the list:

B8
G8
L8
M8

 

[ioana_bv]

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Are all these gone now?

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Scanned all combination, nothing is avilable

 

[bashishtha]

If I didn't have enough short domains I would have taken the following from the list:

B8
G8
L8
M8

g8 is great... :D

 

[Kate]

The same domains could be had in more solid extensions.
Domainers will never learn.

 

[xman]

The same domains could be had in more solid extensions.

And what solid extension would that be? or would you suggest?:

Domainers will never learn

You seem to be an expert. I am here to learn from expert domainer. You must have done a lot of sales in ccTLD?

So I'm all ears.

 

[iowadawg]

Think about it...
Not now, not later, not ever....
Will .pw be the extension of choice for anyone, even domainers.

I see in this, like so many other extensions, so many domains regged that will either be dropped or renewed and then dropped.

 

[xman]

I don't own any.PW but 2 letter or 2 character for the price of less than $10 (is it $4.99 or $7.99) I don't see any risk from that amount. That price is just like buying some strarbucks coffee.

Domains are being dropped or renewed and then dropped in every extension. And yes that includes the .com extension.

We all have domains that we regged, renewed, then dropped.

If anyone in this forum have regged then not dropped or regged, renewed, then not dropped .. I will consider you as my domaining hero and please whoever you are... teach us.

Anyone around here did not drop any domains?

 

[Kate]

And what solid extension would that be?

You can buy LL in European or Latin American extensions for example. Extensions that have a local market, albeit limited.
Note that I said 'more solid' (than .pw), not saying they are good investments either. But still better than .pw.

You must have done a lot of sales in ccTLD?

Yes, I am fond of ccTLDs. Good domains in popular ccTLDs do sell. .pw will never be popular because it's a small local market and unlike .tv there is no convincing rebranding option for this TLD. Professional web lmao.

I don't own any.PW but 2 letter or 2 character for the price of less than $10 (is it $4.99 or $7.99) I don't see any risk from that amount. That price is just like buying some strarbucks coffee.

Yes, they are cheap but that doesn't mean we must waste money just because they are cheap. Instead of buying a handful of .pw you can get a closeout at godaddy. Or a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
I was only poking fun at the sheep mentality of domainers: "look, another TLD is released, let's pick a few just for the sake of burning money ablaze like the others".

But domainers have no intention of renewing their .pw (with a few exceptions). Yet very few if any will sell.
So what's the point ? :gl:
I did not spend one penny on .pw, am I wrong ? Am I missing out ?
Where are the end users ? Where is the aftermarket ?

 

[ioana_bv]

I'm with xman point of view.
A two character domain can be developed for anything easily. The advantage of .pw in this case is:
1. it has been promoted
2. reg fee and renewal fee is very cheap
Spending $5-10 and test out an idea of developing a site is the best way to do it. Still you have the easiest possibility to get back the reg fee you paid for the domain by reselling the it.
Are better ccTLDs out of there to invest money? Of course there are, but $5-10 isn't an investment at all.

 

[mjnels]

I don't own any.PW but 2 letter or 2 character for the price of less than $10 (is it $4.99 or $7.99) I don't see any risk from that amount. That price is just like buying some strarbucks coffee.

but there are things you can buy for $10 and sell to get a guaranteed return over and over again. people saying there is "no risk" in cases like this are truly addicted to the domain chase itself.. "no risk" compared to what? buying all the NNNN.mobi in 2013?

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I'm with xman point of view.
A two character domain can be developed for anything easily.

you just described any domain.

The advantage of .pw in this case is:
1. it has been promoted
2. reg fee and renewal fee is very cheap

all irrelevant when the 1,000+ new gTLDs hit the market. those will be "promoted" too and they wont have to explain what the word means..

Spending $5-10 and test out an idea of developing a site is the best way to do it. Still you have the easiest possibility to get back the reg fee you paid for the domain by reselling the it.

develop it into what? a "this is a shitty domainer site" site?

are you serious... "make your reg fee back" ???

why not go out on the street and collect cans like the homeless people? the homeless people here downtown can easily make $10 collecting cans and bottles in LESS TIME than paying $10 to maybe make that $10 "investment" back. :lol:

Are better ccTLDs out of there to invest money? Of course there are, but $5-10 isn't an investment at all.

yes it is. multiply it by hundreds and yes it is.

 

[ioana_bv]

you just described any domain.

Not any domain can be developed into anything,

all irrelevant when the 1,000+ new gTLDs hit the market. those will be "promoted" too and they wont have to explain what the word means..

What's irrelevant is your way of thinking. Explain what? Still mad with .pw brand? That's the point of developing a two character domain without needing to explain the domain.And that is why I said it in the beginning of my post, but if you divide my post into propositions, you will not understand anything.

develop it into what? a "this is a shitty domainer site" site?

This is the best you could think about? I feel sorry for you....

are you serious... "make your reg fee back" ???

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Yes, I was serious. Getting back what you paid for is the first step in domaining.

why not go out on the street and collect cans like the homeless people? the homeless people here downtown can easily make $10 collecting cans and bottles in LESS TIME than paying $10 to maybe make that $10 "investment" back. :lol:

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Seriously you have mental disorders. That is still a way of living, and not something to lough about!
There are so many examples of companies charging less than $1 per product and service out of there, have you ever thought about it?

yes it is. multiply it by hundreds and yes it is.

Who is talking about registering hundreds? All was about getting a few
Bottom line, wake up, stop drugging yourself, read the thread several time, think twice, write a comment if you must, read it twice and than decide again to push the "submit reply" button. or not.

 

[xman]

You can buy LL in European or Latin American extensions for example. Extensions that have a local market, albeit limited.
Note that I said 'more solid' (than .pw), not saying they are good investments either. But still better than .pw.

Can you regged them for the price of $4.99 or $7.99?

Local market? You don't have to target the local market for any extension.You can target any audience and you don't have to limit yourself to that local market.

These domains are nothing but a virtual address and you can occupy the space as you see fit.

Yes, they are cheap but that doesn't mean we must waste money just because they are cheap. Instead of buying a handful of .pw you can get a closeout at godaddy. Or a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
I was only poking fun at the sheep mentality of domainers: "look, another TLD is released, let's pick a few just for the sake of burning money ablaze like the others".

If you really mean well tell these people you called "sheep mentally domainers" what they should buy that they can make profit. Are these close out can sell for a profit as a guarantee? I don't think so.


If they want to burn their money, that's their money. Why are you so concern about their money?

If your that concern not to waste their money tell them where to put their money so they don't burn it.

But domainers have no intention of renewing their .pw (with a few exceptions). Yet very few if any will sell.
So what's the point ?

I did not spend one penny on .pw, am I wrong ? Am I missing out ?
Where are the end users ? Where is the aftermarket ?

So there's no point of the domains if they don't sell it? What about development? Maybe some of them will develop them.
I didn't spend a penny as well for this extension neither.

What you believe is true for you maybe not be true for them and what's true today may not be true tomorrow and vice versa

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Yes, I am fond of ccTLDs. Good domains in popular ccTLDs do sell. .pw will never be popular because it's a small local market and unlike .tv there is no convincing rebranding option for this TLD. Professional web lmao.

You fond of ccTLD but yet when someone asked for ccTLD you are more likely to respond to get the .com LMAO