.mobi Is Nokia banking on mobi?

[sags]

Lots of noise about Apple's Iphone but mobi backer Nokia is the company in the cat bird seat.

http://news.com.com/Nokia+poised+to...e+users/2100-1041_3-6192871.html?tag=nefd.top

 

[Pred]

Lots of noise about Apple's Iphone but mobi backer Nokia is the company in the cat bird seat.

http://news.com.com/Nokia+poised+to...e+users/2100-1041_3-6192871.html?tag=nefd.top

not sure i get you on this one?
read the article. how's mobi involved?

 

[creature]

The Nokia European mobile site is .com. I give up sorry.

Auctions speak louder than words.

http://ea.mobile.nokia.com/content/spin/ea/NonNokia/en/

 

[Jeff]

Yeah, as far as "Is Nokia banking on mobi?" ... I'm not tying that together with the posted link / Reuter's article, IMHO. :blink:

Link: http://nokia.mobi

If "backer" Nokia is investing further into .MOBI ... they should probably start with a design and development of their own .MOBI -and- then major advertising for it! :yell: :imho:
Does anyone have information on the exact nature and extent of their investment with mTLD? :talk:

Thanks much.
-Jeff

 

[sags]

A market for 1 billion "ultra cheap model" cellphones and mobi's simplicity seem like a good fit to me.

The registry has announced on several occasions that Nokia is developing automatic mobi default software for their phones. Still waiting to see it though.

Regards,


Sags

 

[dgridley]

That would be of great benefit but I'd rather see standardized software built into ALL phones, not just Nokia... until that happens, things like .mobi might never catch on IMO.

The registry has announced on several occasions that Nokia is developing automatic mobi default software for their phones. Still waiting to see it though.

Regards,


Sags

 

[garrett200]

Yeah, as far as "Is Nokia banking on mobi?" ... I'm not tying that together with the posted link / Reuter's article, IMHO. :blink:

Link: http://nokia.mobi

If "backer" Nokia is investing further into .MOBI ... they should probably start with a design and development of their own .MOBI -and- then major advertising for it! :yell: :imho:
Does anyone have information on the exact nature and extent of their investment with mTLD? :talk:

Thanks much.
-Jeff

Patience my skeptical friend, patience.....

 

[whitebark]

Patience my skeptical friend, patience.....

While some mobi fans tell everyone else to be patient cell phone companies and software developers are making mobi obsolete. mobi has ZERO time for patience. Technology advances wait for nobody, including a relatively unknown domain extension.

 

[garrett200]

cell phone companies and software developers are making mobi obsolete.

And you know this how?

 

[thebiffenator]

cell phone companies and software developers are making mobi obsolete. mobi has ZERO time for patience. Technology advances wait for nobody, including a relatively unknown domain extension.

Please tell which software developers and cell phone companies are making .mobi obsolete?

Brian

 

[whitebark]

And you know this how?

Oh there is only some little thing coming along called the iphone for instance? There is the software project microsoft is working on and doubtless dozens of small companies making software in the hopes of selling it to the cell companies.

Only a true die-hard would believe that billion dollar companies would put technological advances on hold for .mobi.

A simple non-biased look at the world of technology would tell anyone not vested to the point of willful ignorance in mobi domains that cell phone and browser software technology is advancing at breakneck speed. Technology advances the world over are increasing across fields. As more countries like China and India start to modernize and their own citizen mass becomes more educated this rate is only going to continue to climb in intensity.

 

[thebiffenator]

Oh there is only some little thing coming along called the iphone for instance? There is the software project microsoft is working on and doubtless dozens of small companies making software in the hopes of selling it to the cell companies.

Only a true die-hard would believe that billion dollar companies would put technological advances on hold for .mobi.

A simple non-biased look at the world of technology would tell anyone not vested to the point of willful ignorance in mobi domains that cell phone and browser software technology is advancing at breakneck speed. Technology advances the world over are increasing across fields. As more countries like China and India start to modernize and their own citizen mass becomes more educated this rate is only going to continue to climb in intensity.

No Argument here, Thanks for the info, I was just currious to know the new technologies coming out. Now with all these companies and everyone else creating for the .mobile inernet and phones (Is there a Standard for the general enduser?), And where does .mobi stand "for the general enduser" and the multitude of phones, providers "and bandwidth" that will go out to other countries for an extention?

And have these attempts been tried before?

Brian

 

[whitebark]

I don't know how to answer your question Brian. The people at .mobi should know that other companies have no interest or care what happens to them. I've always complained about their coding restrictions. They seemed to make sense up front, but they cannot continue. It might be the best fit for this minute, but will it be next month, six months from now? I doubt it. iphone is only the first coming along. If it catches on that will be big trouble for mobi because the other cell companies will be forced to match and exceed its capabilities. That's just the way the free market works.

These new technologies should be getting all website owners (regardless of the extension they use) attention. As more people use mobile devices to access content on the web website owners will need to take that into account. But even that is up in the air because sooner rather than later some smart cookie out there is going to develop software that makes browsing any tld on a mobile device the same as it is on a desktop. iphone is just the first mass commercial exploration of that.

If mobi is going to survive as the 'mobile tld' they had better act fast. That's why I said they cannot be patient. They will have to spend tens of millions branding themselves as the mobile web before these newer browsers and mobile devices really take off. Because if that happens first - it's game over, mobi will be no different from any other tld. And for some of us - it already is no different. (except the restrictive coding standards)

Why some mobi people don't see this I don't know. Others have suggested that there is a core among them who knowingly and willingly hype the extension for the purpose of pure profit - not out of any sense of real loyalty to the extension or the poor saps buying up four and five letter mobi domains. They've been pegged as the ones who denounce anyone like myself for offering a differing opinion.

All I ask is for people to step back and take a long cold hard look at the reality that is technology. People have to adapt or be left behind. If patience was the true and only marker of success on the web then I could have left websites I made in 2000 as they were.

 

[Broker]

Please tell which software developers and cell phone companies are making .mobi obsolete?

Brian

If you look at all the demo's on Nokias website for their cellphones, internet tablets etc, you will notice they are by advertising "Nokia.com" on full html browsers on just about every product they have out. Nice backer A?

 

[mejcdj]

Reminder:

Dot mobi is LESS than 1 year old.

 

[thebiffenator]

I don't know how to answer your question Brian. The people at .mobi should know that other companies have no interest or care what happens to them. I've always complained about their coding restrictions. They seemed to make sense up front, but they cannot continue. It might be the best fit for this minute, but will it be next month, six months from now? I doubt it. iphone is only the first coming along. If it catches on that will be big trouble for mobi because the other cell companies will be forced to match and exceed its capabilities. That's just the way the free market works.

These new technologies should be getting all website owners (regardless of the extension they use) attention. As more people use mobile devices to access content on the web website owners will need to take that into account. But even that is up in the air because sooner rather than later some smart cookie out there is going to develop software that makes browsing any tld on a mobile device the same as it is on a desktop. iphone is just the first mass commercial exploration of that.

If mobi is going to survive as the 'mobile tld' they had better act fast. That's why I said they cannot be patient. They will have to spend tens of millions branding themselves as the mobile web before these newer browsers and mobile devices really take off. Because if that happens first - it's game over, mobi will be no different from any other tld. And for some of us - it already is no different. (except the restrictive coding standards)

Why some mobi people don't see this I don't know. Others have suggested that there is a core among them who knowingly and willingly hype the extension for the purpose of pure profit - not out of any sense of real loyalty to the extension or the poor saps buying up four and five letter mobi domains. They've been pegged as the ones who denounce anyone like myself for offering a differing opinion.

All I ask is for people to step back and take a long cold hard look at the reality that is technology. People have to adapt or be left behind. If patience was the true and only marker of success on the web then I could have left websites I made in 2000 as they were.

I hear you... .mobi shoudl act fast and get a grasp on it, because there are other technologies out there.

If you look at all the demo's on Nokias website for their cellphones, internet tablets etc, you will notice they are by advertising "Nokia.com" on full html browsers on just about every product they have out. Nice backer A?

Yup they are a backer and how big of a role they play in it (I have no idea). But at the same time all of these cell phone companies and software companies can't fight each other forever. (theres got to be a standard) Not just with software or browsers.....But in general to gain the monetary benifits of mobile advertising. (which alot of people know is gona be absolutly huge)

 

[creature]

These new technologies should be getting all website owners (regardless of the extension they use) attention. As more people use mobile devices to access content on the web website owners will need to take that into account. But even that is up in the air because sooner rather than later some smart cookie out there is going to develop software that makes browsing any tld on a mobile device the same as it is on a desktop. iphone is just the first mass commercial exploration of that.

If mobi is going to survive as the 'mobile tld' they had better act fast. That's why I said they cannot be patient. They will have to spend tens of millions branding themselves as the mobile web before these newer browsers and mobile devices really take off. Because if that happens first - it's game over, mobi will be no different from any other tld. And for some of us - it already is no different. (except the restrictive coding standards)

I agree that mobi need to act fast. The two recent technical realities that change everything are the MS Surface and the iphone. Both use super cool, touch or tap surface technology to zoom in on whatever you want. Nobody gives a flying hoot about mobi coding standards any more and Nokia don't even bother using the .mobi extension for 99% their mobile sites. There's no point looking to the future for mass .mobi coding standards because the future is already here, the iphone is in the shops this week with a default .com button with a Safari browser. If you view the iphone demo video at apple.com you will automatically have to buy one. If you have your doubts about the iphone, just view the demo video. Mobi is great for marketing and mtld should auction the premium names that they hold with no reserves. However, anyone who still believes that that mobile phones will exclusively use .mobi for browsing the internet is in a world of their own.

 

[saltysoda]

Apple and other companies that are trying to present a full blown websites to people on the go or people that may have time constraint would soon come to realize that this could lead to user's frustration and .mobi would alleviate this problem.

 

[mejcdj]

Apple and other companies that are trying to present a full blown websites to people on the go or people that may have time constraint would soon come to realize that this could lead to user's frustration and .mobi would alleviate this problem.

Also, we can not assume that the whole world can afford an iphone, or any new gadget with the new zoom and touch screens. These products are out of reach for millions of people. All of those people will not be able to access these .com sites. I think its really rediculous to assume that one new style phone with a $600 price tag is going to render .mobi useless. We need those standards and restrictions for many years still, untill more phones are streamlined and affordable to the masses.

I am not going to give up on billions of potential customers simply beacuse one new phone is out and I have an extra few hundred dollars in my pocket to play with it. Some ppl can barely afford the monthy fees and some still cant afford a phone at all. Think of the customers these .com worshipers are going to miss out on. I will happily take them!


In a ferw years time.. I give it 5 or so, they might have a phone that EVERYONE can afford with all these bells and whistles. Until then, we need the slim and 'watered down' (as some one stated in another thread) version of the web on mobile so that the mobile internet can actually become a mainstream, every day thing for everyone. Dot mobi is the way to ensure that the mobile web survives that transition IMO.

 

[iNod]

Microsoft ZenZui and DeepFish are pretty dirt cheap compared to the price tag on the iphone.. For that $500-600 price tag I can buy a Palm, a monthly package paid off for a year and a license for deepfish and some google mapping programs.. Sad thing is it doesn't come with built in physics engine and a bunch of useless crap so when you turn it sideay it turns the screen sideways.. Which you pay a lot for.. Don't think those stupid fancy things don't cost lots Apple knows how to make awesome products.. But the iPhone is about as useless of a boat of sand.. Do I really need a feature so when I put my phone near my ear the phone turns off. Or a lock which you drag with your fingers because it obvisiouly is to hard to press lock or unlock.

Here is what I want.. I want a phone with no flip up.. No hyroglifics, or physics engines to watch the cursur bounce off the wall at 6.4m/s.. A small price tag.. Google Maps.. A mobile browser that has 10 buttons that can be defined (LOL.. I don't even visit more than 10 sites on a PC.. Why would I need to on a mobile device).. A touch screen

Think somebody might make that?

- Steve