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Hi,

I just reg'ed a couple of .COMs, and a friend suggested I get the .MOBI extension for the names to since it is also applicable for cell phones, etc...

But I'm thinking it's a waste of money and little use to me from the standpoint of making any profits in any form whatsoever, ever and even of little or no use to end users.

Is there any data to support or refute this bias I've developed based on hearsay over the past few months?
 
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mjnels said:
ya.... .CELL man

hit me up in my jail.cell

don't drop that soap D-:
 
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only for labrocca...
 
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wapedia.mobi

Hm...wapedia.mobi or do I use m.wikipedia.org? Oh such a tough call.

Brian..what's your monthly earning range for your mobi efforts? Curious if they are substantial enough after such hard work and development.
 
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mjnels said:
ya.... .CELL man

hit me up in my jail.cell


Yeah, you're probably right. Doesn't sound so good hearing it the next day.
But at least people say things in life like "call me on my cell". No one says
I'm on my mobi, right? There's always going to be some way of making an awkward combination with a TLD

The main thing is if you ever get stuck in a

jail.cell

with

Dick.Mobi

never

KissAnd.tel
 
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well, as a few people already said "cell phone" is a mostly a usa term.. people i know still call it that. but we are in the minority compared to the rest of the world.. most everywhere else calls it a 'mobile'... even back in the 1990's (and probably earlier) i recall people on the internet from other countries asking me what i meant by "cell phone"... they would usually correct me and say 'mobile'...


sky said:
Dick.Mobi

i actually registered DIK.mobi during landrush because i thought it was funny. it was the only LLL.mobi i registered within 2 years of then i do believe... till the drops came in 2008. :p
 
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labrocca said:
Hm...wapedia.mobi or do I use m.wikipedia.org? Oh such a tough call.

well for a recent start up, wapedia.mobi is a 5k site on alexa. not bad i say.
especially as alexa dont measure mobile traffic.
im sure they can live without your page views
 
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mjnels said:
kate kate kate... you are showing your age. :guilty:
Absolutely :) I do not belong to the SMS thumb generation if that is what you mean ;)
 
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Egnited said:
1st:
The money invested in .biz could have been invested in .com's.
The money invested in .us could have been invested in .com's.
The money invested in .tel could have been invested in .com's.
etc etc etc.
I don't get what you are saying.


Indeed, if .MOBI wasn't there the money would have flowed to other
extensions as I think the majority of the regged .MOBI domains is in the
hands of domainers and they can only spend their money once.
Or do you think those domainers would have bought a new fridge or car
for the amount they have spent for .MOBI if it was not there? I personally
think they would have invested it in another TLD including .COMS.
So, IMO it competes with .COM(and other TLD's) because it sucks
money out of other TLD's.
This story goes for every new upcoming TLD IMO.
 
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headstart said:
Egnited said:
1st:
The money invested in .biz could have been invested in .com's.
The money invested in .us could have been invested in .com's.
The money invested in .tel could have been invested in .com's.
etc etc etc.
I don't get what you are saying.


Indeed, if .MOBI wasn't there the money would have flowed to other
extensions as I think the majority of the regged .MOBI domains is in the
hands of domainers and they can only spend their money once.
Or do you think those domainers would have bought a new fridge or car
for the amount they have spent for .MOBI if it was not there? I personally
think they would have invested it in another TLD including .COMS.
So, IMO it competes with .COM(and other TLD's) because it sucks
money out of other TLD's.
This story goes for every new upcoming TLD IMO.

Yes. I think all new tlds compete in some way or another, and do lower the value of preexisting tlds. I think they tend to effect the other new tlds more and the more established tld's less.

Pred said:
well for a recent start up, wapedia.mobi is a 5k site on alexa. not bad i say.
especially as alexa dont measure mobile traffic.
im sure they can live without your page views

Until fairly recently (with them starting up mobile.wikipedia.org) wikipedia didn't have a mobile site, so the third party wapedia.mobi was filling in the gaps. This was the last of the top 10 sites to launch a mobile site. Personally I think wapedia will die off gradually now that wikipedia itself has a mobile site.
 
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Yes. I think all new tlds compete in some way or another, and do lower the value of preexisting tlds.

That's a fallacy.

Does the fact that more Superman comics are still being made diminish the value of Action Comics #1? How about land? Does the fact that they are building more housing outside of Manhattan into the boroughs diminish value of city property?

Both examples actually strengthen the value of the original. imho same holds true here. Much of the reason for these new TLD's is not because we honestly need them but because companies want to cash in on the domain sales craze. The internet doesn't need biz, mobi, or info. They are second tier alternatives to CNO and more specifically to COM.

Domains are closest to collectable rare one of a kind items and mixed with land where the place/position can't be repeated. If you have house.com you have the best possible position on the internet. That's never going to change. Adding more extensions imho..will continue to show the value of CNO as dilution enters the market for these 2nd tier domains.

Value is always going to be placed on demand. When I start seeing large companies registering non-CNO's to run their site I expect demand to continue.

Example: http://www.doubt-themovie.com/ A 5 time Academy Award winning movie and when they needed a domain...they grabbed a very iffy dot com. Why not DoubtMovie.net or Doubt-Movie.net? Heck so many better combos outside of dot com but they chose the lesser dot com. We all know why...consumer recognition.
 
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I'm curious, how many among you are actually spending more time surfing via mobile than desktop ?
 
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labrocca said:
I have removed everyone from my ignore list so I can properly do my moderator duties in the Auction area. You can still say whatever you want but now you get the benefit of my replies. It's been a peaceful time with many on my ignore list but alas duty calls.

If you want the big bucks and the kudos you just have to bite the bullet. Tough at the top. :wave:
 
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sdsinc said:
I'm curious, how many among you are actually spending more time surfing via mobile than desktop ?

Just for non-working surfing, Mobile: 1~1.5 hour, PC 1~1.5 hours per day
 
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Well. For an extension that has no interest this thread certainly is busy. :hehe:
 
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sdsinc said:
I'm curious, how many among you are actually spending more time surfing via mobile than desktop ?

At least 1-2 hours browsing mobile web, weather.mobi, espn.mobi and forums... would do even more on the forums if the interface was a little better.

Web via laptop is still high but expect it to continue to shift more and more to mobile as the sites get better. Absolutely hate to deal with a full PC website via mobile.
 
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labrocca said:
Both examples actually strengthen the value of the original. imho same holds true here. Much of the reason for these new TLD's is not because we honestly need them but because companies want to cash in on the domain sales craze. The internet doesn't need biz, mobi, or info. They are second tier alternatives to CNO and more specifically to COM.

Domains are closest to collectable rare one of a kind items and mixed with land where the place/position can't be repeated. If you have house.com you have the best possible position on the internet. That's never going to change. Adding more extensions imho..will continue to show the value of CNO as dilution enters the market for these 2nd tier domains.

I've heard this argument many times and have never really bought it, essentially you are mixing up asset classes, the current print of Superman isn't a collectible yet you are comparing to to a comic book that is. With collectibles the item is valuable not only because of rarity but because of how many people desire that asset. If people are buying the just printed comics that creates demand for collectible comics. That isn't like domains where the item is mainly a business asset. Imagine if I told you that Hewlett Packard releasing a cheap new model will help Lexmark's sales....It is just like comic books! You'd laugh. Choice lowers prices, however buyers don't choose between a comic book just printed and a collectible one, they choose between comparable items.

The real estate anaology doesn't really apply well either because the larger a city gets the greater demand for land in close, in my view that is alot to do with the finite nature or land. More and more people in the city want to same spec of land in the center. That isn't the same as domains where new extensions mean a business may choose the new over the old, ie they see the old extension as less desirable because they have more choice. New extensions don't result in more business wanting domains, it is isn't like land in a city.

If you really want to compare to it to land perhaps compare it to a city surrounded by tens of thousands of unoccupied houses, all for sale and at lower prices than the city. Would all those available houses help the land in the city? I doubt it because it doesn't help demand, it shows oversupply, it means more choice, and some will probably choose the cheap house with no neighbours rather than the city.

Now imagine if instead of not building any more houses builders just keep building 10's of thousands more every year, new largely empty suburbs constantly added, they are happy if 1 in 100 houses gets occupied, will that help the land in the city? Will people who previously could have only bought in the city (because the new suburbs didn't exist) now pay more for city land because it is surrounded by thousands of largely empty houses?

labrocca said:
Example: http://www.doubt-themovie.com/ A 5 time Academy Award winning movie and when they needed a domain...they grabbed a very iffy dot com. Why not DoubtMovie.net or Doubt-Movie.net? Heck so many better combos outside of dot com but they chose the lesser dot com. We all know why...consumer recognition.

What does that have to do with new tld's helping .com? Or is you point that most companies will still use the established extensions? I think we already know that.
 
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I think this is the best .Mobi thread so far on NP. Proves it is not difficult
to discuss things in a POLITE manner :o

:rolleyes: :wave: :hehe: :imho: :hearts:

We can now clean-up the ignore lists I think :rolleyes:
Lets follow labrocca's example :lol:

IMHO
 
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very well explained post by snoop.

the whole argument of "new TLD's only strengthen dotcom, dotnet, dotorg" is like this defensive domainer argument. there is just no way that its true except in the minds of domainers. regular people do not think like this..

new TLD's might not lower the value of com, net, org significantly... but it certainly doesnt "increase its value"... that is hopeful domainer-speak.
 
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mjnels said:
new TLD's might not lower the value of com, net, org significantly...

I'm not all that convinced about the ultra high-end, if it's fairly easy to launch a new TLD, some people may ask why spend seven figures on one domain when the same investment could buy an entire TLD?
 
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Just remember .mobi was created specifically for mobile/pda devices.


NO OTHER TLD IS SPECIFICALLY CREATED FOR USE ON A MOBILE/PDA:sold:


:hehe:
 
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