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What are your feelings about what has been happening in the dot tv world?

* - we have had some interesting sales figures posted from SEDO and TDNam on some foreign keyword dot tv names, single and double keyword english dot tv names;
* - there have been a flurry of .tv sitings and new site launches;
* - Sahar touted the dot tv extension;
* - More dot tv domainers are taking on development than ever before (at least as evidenced on this forum); (link)
* - [Feel free to insert your own comment here; if you post it below I will add it here for others to see along with a credit to you]
 
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It's just you.

Yes, there has been some news, but nothing more then the normal 1-2 big sales every month that we have been seeing. There is still a very limited aftermarket with most names not even selling for more then $40 in 95% of the sales that do happen. And those are few and far between.

We are developing because there is nothing else to do. There is literally no one beating down our doors with more then reg-fee offers (In most cases), and there is literally no one buying around here, even at reg fee pricing.

So it looks busy, but that is only because we are developing and bouncing ideas.

That is my OPINION only. If there is a huge aftermarket sales place, please let me know.
 
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i tend to agree with you allthings-

it doesnt look busy, it is busy- aftermarket sales are only one slice of the pie in the unfolding of our fine extension-
 
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My personal feeling is that there is forward momentum overall in .TV and it will continue to rise nicely in 2008. Conditions are RIPE.
 
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I love, love, love this graph. It shows a clearer picture of what's actually happening (it's based on total #of domains):
http://www.google.com/trends?q=.tv,+.mobi,+.biz,+.info,+.com.au&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

This one is also facinating:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=.com,+.net&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

.tv is now the 6th most popular extension (behind .com, net, de, co.uk, com.au) and gaining ground quickly. Also, if you were to remove domain tasting and cybersquatted domains from the second graph (which are typically .coms), .tv would clearly be the fastest growing top 10 extension. Period. And that's great news for all of us.

Cheers!
-Mike
 
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.TV will continue to rise, but give it 3 to 5 years for full potential.
 
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ChicagoLife said:
.TV will continue to rise, but give it 3 to 5 years for full potential.

This is just your biased opinion. Otherwise, please substantiate your comment.

.com hasn't even reached it's "full potential" and it's been around much longer.
 
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i think if me.tv can take off next year this will help dot tv,if members to your me.tv site can upload there clips this will give them something to do,i also think things will have to happen next year .i sometimes look at allthings.tv see whats posted but even i forget the tv and sometimes type allthings.com.
 
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dcmike77 said:
This is just your biased opinion. Otherwise, please substantiate your comment.

.com hasn't even reached it's "full potential" and it's been around much longer.
dcmike77 Sorry itโ€™s potential, and how long do you think it will take more or less time?
 
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No worries, Alex. Sorry for giving you a hard time (i was grumpy earlier today)

As much as I love .tv, the power of .com seems to be getting out of control now-a-days and seems to be de-valueing everything else. For every great new .tv I see, I see another [name]tv.com (myspacetv a good example).

I'd love to give a range but it's nearly impossible unless you work at DemandMedia or Verisign and have an inside scoop.


:)
 
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Allthings is right and makes some strong points, things are definitely happening, but I am still worried about the economy. We have some serious economic problems on the horizon and this could indirectly hurt .tv as well as any other industry really.

People should be careful and trim down portfolios and not get caught up in being overextended.
 
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TheBulldog said:
It's just you.

Yes, there has been some news, but nothing more then the normal 1-2 big sales every month that we have been seeing. There is still a very limited aftermarket with most names not even selling for more then $40 in 95% of the sales that do happen. And those are few and far between.

We are developing because there is nothing else to do. There is literally no one beating down our doors with more then reg-fee offers (In most cases), and there is literally no one buying around here, even at reg fee pricing.

So it looks busy, but that is only because we are developing and bouncing ideas.

That is my OPINION only. If there is a huge aftermarket sales place, please let me know.

Absolutely. The evidence of dot tv catching fire is scant, and - in the grand scheme of things - amounts to virtually nothing. Looking at DN journal, I don't see alot of TV sales activity myself. I do however, see some 'questionable' sales activity (i.e. one might feel tempted to question the legitimacy of some sales that have occurred if one was so inclined...). Also, what I do see is dudes with massive portfolios of .TVs trying to shift them for nothing. I also see great names being placed in the marketplace and not attracting offers above reg fee. I see $1 starting bids barely crawling up to 15. And who remembers those TV auctions we have here? Name after name after name after name not sold. Man, that was as depressing as a Spice Girls reunion concert.

I'm sure you are all really nice people here but this is a very insular forum. I really do suggest some of you dudes get out and about on the web a bit more because you are kind of preaching to the converted here and I rather feel you guys are not getting a real flavor of how poorly TV is doing. I think alot of you are kidding yourselves because you have alot of cash invested. OK, there have been some decent sales I think but perhaps this is a case of the exception proving the rule? I think you guys also get a little too excited about 'spotting' .TVs - which I find rather amusing I must say. If there was a forum dedicated to the discussion of net.nz, you could easily achieve just as many 'spots'.

I have a few TVs myself and really, really want it to do well. But there are many factors preventing that - which have been discussed ad infinitum. These factors will continue to shackle TV for the foreseeable future IMO, unless something exceptional happens.

From a personal perspective, I see alot less interest now. Over the summer I was selling quite a few but there seems to have been a thaw since September.

I really don't see much evidence of anyone here developing their names (channelme is not development) and perhaps a more concerted effort in this department is what's needed. But to be a success, I think the .TV extension demands development that is ingenious and inspirational. But that requires money.

RHs end of year report for Dot TV:

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".......After a quiet start, dot tv made a real effort in the first term. He was mixing in much better with the other extensions and seemed to gain more confidence. In May, we very excited because he got down to some serious work on his course work project and seemed to be genuinely more creative. He certainly shows what he can achieve when he concetrates! However, he started messing about again and his work deteriorated. He was in trouble with the headmaster on several occasions and was given a number of detentions. If he is to succeed, he must stop messing about in class and get down to some serious study. He needs to try and aspire to the high standards set by the class scholars. If he works hard, he might one day realize the potential we all believe he possesses....."
 
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dcmike77 said:
.tv is now the 6th most popular extension (behind .com, net, de, co.uk, com.au) and gaining ground quickly.

I think you forgot to include .org
 
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realy hurt..that is a realy good post..it is true what you say..all of it.
next year are maybes,but what you post is were we stand now,lets not kid ourselfs anymore.

next year may be better .
if we get more post saying tv..com,telly.com,t/televisions .com .then .tv has failed.
shame our queen went on youtube and not me.tv for her christmas message.
http://uk.youtube.com/theroyalchannel
 
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Reality Hurts said:
Absolutely. The evidence of dot tv catching fire is scant, and - in the grand scheme of things - amounts to virtually nothing. Looking at DN journal, I don't see alot of TV sales activity myself. I do however, see some 'questionable' sales activity (i.e. one might feel tempted to question the legitimacy of some sales that have occurred if one was so inclined...). Also, what I do see is dudes with massive portfolios of .TVs trying to shift them for nothing. I also see great names being placed in the marketplace and not attracting offers above reg fee. I see $1 starting bids barely crawling up to 15. And who remembers those TV auctions we have here? Name after name after name after name not sold. Man, that was as depressing as a Spice Girls reunion concert.

I'm sure you are all really nice people here but this is a very insular forum. I really do suggest some of you dudes get out and about on the web a bit more because you are kind of preaching to the converted here and I rather feel you guys are not getting a real flavor of how poorly TV is doing. I think alot of you are kidding yourselves because you have alot of cash invested. OK, there have been some decent sales I think but perhaps this is a case of the exception proving the rule? I think you guys also get a little too excited about 'spotting' .TVs - which I find rather amusing I must say. If there was a forum dedicated to the discussion of net.nz, you could easily achieve just as many 'spots'.

I have a few TVs myself and really, really want it to do well. But there are many factors preventing that - which have been discussed ad infinitum. These factors will continue to shackle TV for the foreseeable future IMO, unless something exceptional happens.

From a personal perspective, I see alot less interest now. Over the summer I was selling quite a few but there seems to have been a thaw since September.

I really don't see much evidence of anyone here developing their names (channelme is not development) and perhaps a more concerted effort in this department is what's needed. But to be a success, I think the .TV extension demands development that is ingenious and inspirational. But that requires money.

RHs end of year report for Dot TV:

D-

".......After a quiet start, dot tv made a real effort in the first term. He was mixing in much better with the other extensions and seemed to gain more confidence. In May, we very excited because he got down to some serious work on his course work project and seemed to be genuinely more creative. He certainly shows what he can achieve when he concetrates! However, he started messing about again and his work deteriorated. He was in trouble with the headmaster on several occasions and was given a number of detentions. If he is to succeed, he must stop messing about in class and get down to some serious study. He needs to try and aspire to the high standards set by the class scholars. If he works hard, he might one day realize the potential we all believe he possesses....."

Wow, this is one of the most downtrodden write ups I have seen on this board in months.

You do have a right to your opinion, but folks, remember this is just one opinion. 2008 will be a great year for .tv's IMO. The trends we saw in 2007 will continue to grow. .TV is one of the fastest growing extensions and video on the net continues to grow at an unsatiating pace.

Yes I am heavily invested in the extension, but I have also profited greatly after selling 188 .tv names this year.

I think my investment in .tv's is about $20 - $25k. But my investment in .tv's is small compared to the 7 figures I have invested in online video.

And I am just a small start-up. There were literally hudreds of millions of dollars invested in online video this year. 2008? You will see hundreds of millions more invested IMO.

Online video is still at the bottom of the mountain but climbing straight up. This will continue to grow for the foreseeable future.

The one thing that every online video website or project has in common is that they all need a domain name. As has been said before, if you had you first choice maybe it would still be a .com, but how many great .com's are still available to reg? And even if you can find a decent one a lot of start-up's are going with great .tv's.

Online video/Internet Television will continue to make it's mark online and they will all need an address, a good address.

Again, look at the trends...

As an Entreprenuer I am a risk taker and an optomist so take this post with a grain of salt, but I am feeling pretty good these days :)
 
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Well you make a good point Richard and extension success has nothing to do with ones personal success.

.tv the extension, had more sales this year than any year in its history.
.tv the extension had more registrations this year than the previous years combined that Verisign has owned the .tv corp.
.tv the extension had more spots in the DN JOURNAL TOP 100 cctld list (7) with 5 in the top 50 than it did last year (2) and 0 in the top 50.

Just like the extension you can look at participants and see for some it was very successful:
DomainAcrobat over 100 sales
SearchingTv 188 sales
JohnTV the sale of Me.tv
Millers/Atl.tv a top 50 cctld sale
Poodleman has had some nice sales
SKG has had some nice sales including the Spanish Market


Now .com certainly had a great year, so did .co.uk. Did the members here benefit and make the big $$$ from the domains they own in those extensions ? From reading post histories and signature lines I would guess not.

.tv should be nothing more than apart of your overall domain portfolio and if you are looking to become WEALTHY overnight or over a two year period, I think most will be disappointed. Again IMO
 
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MINDWRECKER.TV said:
... but I am still worried about the economy. We have some serious economic problems on the horizon and this could indirectly hurt .tv as well as any other industry really.

People should be careful and trim down portfolios and not get caught up in being overextended.

The last time I was in Hollywood i happened up Beachwood Canyon and noticed that most of the development happened there in the early 30s. Remember that this was the middle of the greatest worldwide depression yet seen but that area was BOOMING. America and the world went to the movies. Cutting edge technology it was. Gee they had just come out with *TALKIES*!!! When times get tough people need cheap diversions. What could be cheaper than internet videos? Live. Interactive.

I don't want to be a mere holder of .tv names. That could very well prove less than spectacular. There must be channel development for there to be a certainty of success. My advice to those concerned about that is build something cool and advertise it guerrilla-style.
 
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of course we are preaching to the converted- last time i checked, this was "the .tv forum". what should we be doing- pushing .name?

my heart goes out to you reality- and to those on the board who got into something, without a proper understanding of what is going on.

if you bought names this year expecting a windfall this year, then you made the wrong decision in buying into an infant extension.

From a personal perspective, I see alot less interest now. Over the summer I was selling quite a few but there seems to have been a thaw since September.

and this means what? that the whole .tv extension has crumbled because you sold less domains? the last couple of months many people have posted awesome sites that have been developed in .tv- others who are developing networks above and beyond single sites. if there are no sites posted, you say there is nothing happening. when there are sites posted, you make the inane remark that we get a little to excited to see develoment. the issue here is there is no pleasing you, unless someonee buys your names.

for every person on this forum who thinks .tv is not doing well because of 'lackluster" sales for 2007- you need to get out of .tv. you dont get it- not by a long shot. the people in this forum are not insular- but it is you who is insular. you are on Woe Is Me Island. most of the people here understand what they got in to, understand the timeline, and understand you do not build rome in 7 months.

i am at a loss. your like a guy who planted the farm, and doomed the crop after one week. .tv obviously isn't sitting well with you so maybe its time you moved on reality. coming onto the forum and posting your dark dread posts arent making your names sell any faster- maybe it would be best to cut your losses now.

i for one am getting weary of the posts from those who want it all yesterday, and are not listening. there are so many layers to this, and you gotta get off your 2 dimensional plane already. the first thing you need to do is find out what you are measuring .tv success with- because you just might need to recalibrate.
 
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dcmike77 said:
I love, love, love this graph. It shows a clearer picture of what's actually happening (it's based on total #of domains):
http://www.google.com/trends?q=.tv,+.mobi,+.biz,+.info,+.com.au&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

This one is also facinating:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=.com,+.net&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

.tv is now the 6th most popular extension (behind .com, net, de, co.uk, com.au) and gaining ground quickly. Also, if you were to remove domain tasting and cybersquatted domains from the second graph (which are typically .coms), .tv would clearly be the fastest growing top 10 extension. Period. And that's great news for all of us.

Cheers!
-Mike

How is that graph based on "total number of domains"?, and how does it show "what's actually happening"? It is a graph that shows the growth in the specific (exact) search queries ".com", ".info" ".tv" etc, that is all it is. I'm would say all those graphs indicate is an increase in domain speculation in certain extensions. Note the .mobi chart in particular.
 
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snoop said:
How is that graph based on "total number of domains"?, and how does it show "what's actually happening"? It is a graph that shows the growth in the specific (exact) search queries ".com", ".info" ".tv" etc, that is all it is. I'm would say all those graphs indicate is an increase in domain speculation in certain extensions. Note the .mobi chart in particular.


Excellent, so you are saying traffic is on the rise:) For certain extensions of course:)
 
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