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Is extention so important ?

Would you stop visisting namepros if they changed to namepros.tk ?

Well I wouldnt, and I dont belive any of you would.

Ofcourse do a .com look a bit cooler, but a good keyword do that aslo.

Well, I think people need to think a little wider when developing sites. The name of the site can be important, the extention not.

Or what do you say ?
 
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They only register them cause they are there, like most big companies register every small ccTLD to.
 
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Originally posted by cmos
They only register them cause they are there, like most big companies register every small ccTLD to.

Defensive regs are important, I agree, particularly for MNCs. Notwithstanding, go search Google on the term site:.biz and see the hundreds of thousands of .BIZ sites already in use by the SME market.
 
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i think .biz will never be accepted by big companies, at least not in the next 1-5 years. it just seems unprofessional... a big company would want to use the widely-accepted .com

the companies that choose to reg .biz domains are just for the defensive, so others cant do that. even google.tk is registered and redirected to google.com
 
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Yeah there is no market for .biz
 
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Originally posted by cmos
Yeah there is no market for .biz

If you mean reseller market, then in a sense, what you say is correct.

Although similar in type to .COM/.NET/.ORG/.INFO as a gtld, .BIZ is a restricted tld, where you cannot register the name solely for resale.

.BIZ Registration Restrictions

Registrations in the .BIZ TLD will be subject to the following restrictions:
Registrations in the .BIZ TLD must be used or intended to be used primarily for bona fide business or commercial purposes; and

Registrations in the .BIZ TLD must comply with the Uniform Dispute Resolution Policy (โ€œUDRPโ€), as adopted and as may be amended by the Internet Corporation of Assigned Names and Numbers. For proceedings initiated before the Commencement-of-Service Date, a modified version of the UDRP, known as the Start-Up Trademark Opposition Policy (โ€œSTOPโ€) will apply.

For purposes of the .BIZ Registration Restrictions (โ€œRestrictionsโ€), โ€œbona fide business or commercial useโ€ shall mean the bona fide use or bona fide intent to use the domain name or any content, software, materials, graphics or other information thereon, to permit Internet users to access one or more host computers through the DNS:
To exchange goods, services, or property of any kind;

In the ordinary course of trade or business; or

To facilitate (i) the exchange of goods, services, information, or property of any kind; or, (ii) the ordinary course of trade or business.

Registering a domain name solely for the purposes of (1) selling, trading or leasing the domain name for compensation, or (2) the unsolicited offering to sell, trade or lease the domain name for compensation shall not constitute a "bona fide business or commercial use" of that domain name.
For illustration purposes, the following shall not constitute a โ€œbona fide business or commercial useโ€ of a domain name:

Using or intending to use the domain name exclusively for personal, noncommercial purposes; or

Using or intending to use the domain name exclusively for the expression of noncommercial ideas (i.e., registering abcsucks.biz exclusively to criticize or otherwise express an opinion on the products or services of ABC company, with no other intended business or commercial purpose).

Violations
It will be a violation of the Restrictions for an Applicant to:

register or use a domain name contrary to the STOP;

register and use a domain name contrary to the UDRP; or

use the registered domain name in a manner inconsistent with the definition of โ€œbusiness or commercial useโ€ contained herein.

Violations of the Restrictions may be grounds for cancellation of a registered .BIZ domain name, pursuant to the enforcement mechanism discussed below.

Enforcement
A violation of the Restrictions will be enforced on a case-by-case, fact specific basis under the processes set forth below:

Any allegation that a domain name is not used primarily for business or commercial purposes shall be enforced under the provisions of the Restrictions Dispute Resolution Process (โ€œRDRPโ€).

Any alleged violation of the UDRP or STOP shall be enforced under the provisions contained therein.
None of the violations of the Restrictions will be enforced directly by or through Registry Operator. The RDRP, UDRP, and STOP will be made applicable by the ICANN-Accredited Registrarsโ€™ registration agreements with registrants. Proceedings under the RDRP, UDRP, and STOP must be brought by interested third parties in accordance with the policies and procedures set forth. Registry Operator will not review, monitor, or otherwise verify that any particular domain name is being used primarily for business or commercial purposes or that a domain name is being used in compliance with these processes.

Registration Requirements
Before the Registry Operator will accept applications for registration, all domain name applicants in the .BIZ TLD (โ€œApplicantsโ€) must:

Enter into an electronic or paper registration agreement with an ICANN-Accredited Registrar (โ€œRegistrarโ€), in accordance with the ICANN Registrar Accreditation Agreement (โ€œAccreditation Agreementโ€). Such electronic or paper registration agreement shall include the following certifications:

The data provided in the domain name registration application is true, correct, up to date and complete; and

The registrant will keep the information provided above up to date.

As part of a domain name registration application, the Applicant must certify that to the best of its knowledge:

The registered domain name will be used in a manner consistent with the Restrictions above;

The domain name registrant has the authority to enter into the registration agreement; and

The registered domain name is reasonably related to the registrant's business or intended commercial purpose at the time of registration.

Failure to comply with the above will result in failure of the Registry Operator to process an Applicantโ€™s domain name application.
 
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^ That was certainly an interesting read. I've never regged a .biz before
 
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and so, u should stick with not regging any .biz
 
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cmos, you make sweeping proclamations about the DN market, but I rarely see you back up your statements with any information. Opinions are not necessarily facts.

On .biz you state that:

They only register them cause they are there, like most big companies register every small ccTLD to
Could you share your sources for this statement w/ us? Would love to see a list of some of the larger Europeon companies that have opted for the cctld over .com, let alone the large multi-national giants..

-Yeah there is no market for .biz
-.Biz will never be big, no companies have started using it. They are having to hard time on trying to get biz to use .biz

What info do you have that backs this up?

Here are ome of the significant .biz sales over the past 3 mos:

Book.biz $7,000
Reifen.biz"tires" in German โ‚ฌ5,500 = $6,894
Meningite.biz ("Meningitis in French & Italian) $4,250
Branchen.biz (German for "industries") โ‚ฌ2,500 = $3,071
Horror.biz $1,150
Bier.biz โ‚ฌ1,000 = $1,210
BVL.biz โ‚ฌ600 = $726
FAQ.biz $500
SDI.biz $450
Sportwette.biz $350
Vision.biz $343

In euro people type their ccTLD not .com, and this will probably become a world wide thing.

5 of the top 10 .biz names were purchased by Europeon cos, so at least some Europeons have an opinion that is quite different from yours.
Furthermore, I don't see any of the above names as being defensive registrations, being that they are generic in nature.

True, the above names are a small slice of the pie, and represent the best of the past 3 months. But what I see in this list is potential, potential, potential

What I don't see is anything that would support your opinions.:kickass:
 
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what i think is that those prices you listed are... overpriced. i dont think those domains are worth that much because the .biz hurts it.
 
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Well just look at that, the biz I "think" that most of thoose domains was purshased by people like us.

And ofcourse .biz still can make sales.

But I have never seen a big company or shop using .biz, even if some do that not a big number anyway.

Seen some very small hosting firms using .biz, thats all.

We are talking about millions biz in the world, do they have .biz ?

Have you ever seen a advertisment with a .biz ? I have not.

Reifen.biz"tires" in German รฏยฟยฝ5,500 = $6,894 - wow that a very nice site, have you looked at it ?

I really dont think that .biz ever will get big, I have not seen anything that talks for that anyway.
 
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i think extentions are important because lots of people who use the internet dont know that there are other extentions apart from .com ...
 
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I think it's horses for courses.

For example, I own lots of .com/org/us/ some /net/biz - no .info..lol - I also have a couple of .ws and 1 .name

So, to give 2 different examples.

1) I own ALL the main TLD's for "sy4" (.com/net/org/us/info/biz/co.uk)

That is more of a defensive and Uniqueness standpoint.

2) DropMarket.com
This is my new site I'm launching tomorrow.

I also have the following domains which are being tied into the service :

DropLists.info
DropLists.biz
DropLists.us
DropLists.name
DropLists.ws

So for me, they work perfectly :)

Rgds
MAtt
 
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Hmm, that look more as advertisment for youre site than a comment to the discussion.
 
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Not atall.

The point being, that TLD's "are" important to me, and that particular scenario. The .com/net/org isnt important to me. The other tld's are :)

And, the name of the domain is also correct. Sooooo, hopefully now u can understand in THIS scenario, what I'm saying about TLD's :)

Rgds
MAtt
 
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