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Is Andrew Rosener Brokering The Sale Of Prince.com Again?

Labeled as news in General Domain Discussion, started by BrandYourself, Feb 26, 2017

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  1. BrandYourself

    BrandYourself Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    For those of you who have been around a good few years there were many questions asked a few years back regarding the sale of Prince.com
    Someone named Andrew Prince claimed to have had owned Prince.com at the time but it was brokered and sold by Mediaoptions via another supposed owner.

    TheDomains.com covered this - possibly shady - case a few years back

    https://www.thedomains.com/2010/10/0...comment-218592

    Thing is I revisited the original thread and now someone claims to have email proof that Rosener is brokering the sale of Prince.com once again.


    Prince is under privacy and doesn't resolve.

    Anyone cast any light on this at all as I can't but help wonder what the real story is here????
     
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  2. tldboss

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    Visited the link you provided, below is a comment from Andrew
    (I did not confirm if it's really him, but I believe its him).

    The red bold text below explains why he is brokering the name again

    Maybe you can send him a note & he will clarify the situation for you - see blue bold text, otherwise anyone here will be just speculating even people who joined NP longtime ago. Andrew is the only person who can tell you why he has decided to represent his client once more :)

    "
    Andrew Rosener says

    February 26, 2017 at 8:21 am

    @Joey – there is nothing fishy going on in any way whatsoever. We did broker the sale to Sven Echternach back in 2010 or so. We had no idea the domain could have been stolen at the time. At the time we sold the name on behalf of the apparent owner, he had been in possession of the domain for over 2 years! Usually the signature of a domain theft is a recent whois change or slight email modification followed by an immediate attempt to sell the name. Also, thieves are usually looking to move the name quickly. This owner was a brutal negotiator and turned down multiple 6 figure offers before accepting the offer we ultimately sold Prince.com for. So that means that if the domain was stolen from Andrew Prince, he didn’t even notice that the domain was stolen for more than 2 years! I’m not the only one who tried to broker this name, I’m just the one who actually sold it. Some still believe that Andrew Prince just had seller’s remorse after selling it and made up the whole domain theft story (not sure I buy that, but…).

    SnapNames auctioned off Prince.com in a public live auction only a month before I sold it. They were representing the same “owner” whom I sold the domain for. But it didn’t hit reserve. Network Solutions even got involved in trying to sell it and failed. But the point is, NONE of them, including myself, had any suspicion whatsoever that the name could have been stolen. There were absolutely no signs to point to a theft. After the sale, there was a UDRP and subsequent legal case around Prince.com and the current owner, Sven, has prevailed in each. I’m not sure what more you want? Even the UDRP was filed around a year after the sale or so I believe. Maybe more, don’t remember at this point.

    Anyhow, we are not actively brokering Prince.com but it is a “pocket listing” if you will. Sven is still one of our clients and when a potential buyer might be a fit for Prince.com we will present the name to them. Nothing I’m trying to hide by any stretch of the imagination.

    Before you go publicly accusing someone of something, you should fact check. I’m not exactly a hard person to get a hold of. Just send me a note and ask whats up and I’d be more than happy to explain."
     
  3. BrandYourself

    BrandYourself Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    How did Dr.Harnett get embroiled in this mess? that is the key point for me - there is something majorly off with the whole thing



    Matter of fact in his telling of his story Dr. Hartnett mentioned that he was contacted in reference to this exact domain Prince.com:

    “A few weeks ago John Mauriello from SnapNames/Moniker called me to see why I hadn’t paid an invoice for $35,000.

    “For what I asked?”

    “He said because I had sold the domain, Prince.com privately but I signed a 90 day exclusive with Moniker and the domain was in the August Showcase auction.”

    “I told him I never owned that domain name.”

    “This person put the domain up for auction using my name”

    The story regarding Prince.com, as far as I have been able to piece it together from the information I already have from Dr. Hartnett, and the claims of Andrew Prince from his UDRP is that around the beginning of April 2010 the domain name was stolen.

    The domain was submitted to the SnapNames.com monthly showcase auction for August. As part of submitting the domain to the SnapNames.com auction the domain was transferred into Moniker.com and as part of that process Moniker got a 90 day exclusive contract to sell the domain.
     
  4. MediaOptions

    MediaOptions VIP Member DomainSherpa MediaOptions.com PRO VIP ICA Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    As I said on TheDomains.com article, and as was posted above, there is absolutely nothing shady about this whatsoever. The thief that supposedly stole Prince.com, seems to be the same person who hacked Dr. Hartnett. Ultimately, Sven / SECommerce was the buyer. As they still own the domain, and continue to be a client of ours, we do occasionally solicit offers for the domain as appropriate.

    If you have a problem with something related to me or my company, please contact me before posting conspiracy theories in public forums. This does not good to anybody and can easily be construed as Libelous, a civil legal offense which is penalized with heavy fines and damages.
     
  5. MediaOptions

    MediaOptions VIP Member DomainSherpa MediaOptions.com PRO VIP ICA Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Well, there is obviously something extremely shady about domains being stolen in general, but what I meant to say was that there is no shady element to our occasionally brokering or soliciting offers for Prince.com on behalf of our client.
     

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