Is Adam Dicker a criminal? You decide.

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This story starts with DNF; a barren wasteland that once was a leading forum within the domain industry. While the forum itself played a huge role in propagating the myth that is Adam Dicker, the story really begins with DNF College in the summer of 2011.

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Updates / Reports
These are in no particular order.

• Report by headsupp (Resolved)
  • Relevant Videos
  • Reply to Adam
  • Update: Resolved
  
  
• Report by LannyB (Unresolved)
  • Response
    • Follow-up Questions
  
  
• Report by domainesque (Unresolved)
  • Update: Unresolved
  • Report Details
  • Update: Waiting on Refund
  
  
• Report of Shane Cultra's friends (Unresolved)
  • Update: Unpaid
  
  
• Report by Jeff Markus (Dissatisfied)
  
  
• Report by simmplex (Resolved)
  • Refunded
  
  
• Report by Blenja_Man (Pending)
  • Voucher
  • Update: Work in Progress
  
  
• Report by RandysDomains (Resolved)
  • Resolved
  
  
• Report by swamismith (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by Charlie (Unresolved)
  • Cover-up
  • Update: Unresolved
  
  
• Report by Jaqpot (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by anon22339 (Unresolved)
  • Details
  
  
• Report by Joseph Peterson (Resolved)
  • Update: Unpaid after 8 days
  • Update: Paid
  
  
• Report by Frank Schilling (Resolved)
  • Update: Paid
  
  
• Report by Lonewolf5503 (Paypal Dispute)
  • Update: Website not delivered and no longer accessible
  • Update: Lonewolf5503 wins PayPal dispute
  
  
• Report by GermanRaven (Unresolved)
  • Update: Full story
  
  
• Report by ClaudeDauman (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by bobsranch (Unresolved)
  • Details
  • Update: Legal Letter Received
  
  
• Report by Newby888 (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by dougasd (Unresolved)

From what I understand, Adam still owes north of $33,000 to previous customers and business partners. As I receive more information, I will update this figure.

 

[Derick R.]

Wpm :

 

[pqr]

PQR, I don't believe that WebInvestments is Adam himself, I have a hunch that it is his business partner Rick who is Dutch and runs a large community for Dutch domainers. The one who is friends with frank-germany (the other shill, who has gone quiet).

From my original post: " I am starting to think that either both of you are the same person, or one is acting on behalf of the other."
Never said they are the same, but the text is exactly the same as what Adam would have posted.

And about Dutch, you are right, as with any nationality. Hence my comment specifically to Netherlanders to not take it seriously

 

[daj]

Jan 2007 – Starts TheArtOfTheName.com Source: Dicker’s LinkedIn page

This is a bold face lie.

Another lie of his from his linkedin page..

 

[Derick R.]

@Adam Dicker Seriously , Just refund everyone. What was the point in chiming in,halfway, and having people message you directly at your Email address,if its going to be counterproductive and result in wasted time? Take 5 seconds from SeoBrokers.ca,Gather previous invoices from those that have requested,and Refund. We get it,You're avoiding all the claims,starting a new life/persona. Alot of people looked up to you,opened their wallets and waited patiently for results. Correct it.

 

[Keith DeBoer]

This is a bold face lie.

Dicker was/is very enthusiastic in his self promotion and public image. After hearing the stories of the people who were deceived as customers and business partners it's not surprising that some aspects of his self promotion are also misleading and deceptive in nature.

 

[hawkeye]

Alot of people looked up to you,opened their wallets and waited patiently for results. Correct it.

It seems 'quite' clear by now, if that was to happen, ..it would have.

 

[DomainGist]

@Adam Dicker Seriously , Just refund everyone.

It is time people realised that this simply isn't going to happen now. Victims need to pursue other options like chargebacks from their bank or paypal disputes if they have time, or legal avenues for justice if they are motivated enough.

They also need to be very careful though. I was somehow born fearless, but others don't have that mentality and this may dissuade some from going down this route...

https://web.archive.org/web/20040213020440/http://www.satansplayhouse.cx/fraud.php

Somebody made me aware of that by PM and suggested I share. That is a list of names and addresses of people who issued a chargeback against one of Adam Dicker's former businesses, published on the internet.

 

[anon22339]

I am ashamed for falling for all of Adam's fake reputation, lies, deception, broken promises, false humility and insincere niceness.

My experience was the same as GermanRaven's. Adam promised he could generate thousands per month based on his unique skills and expertise. Through his many appearances on DomainSherpa.com and on his Facebook group, he stated that he was making several thousands per month using his unique skills and expertise and that he could do the same for others. Ultimately, my experience as his customer was that he has zero skills and no demonstrable expertise in building any websites to generate income for customers. Like GermanRaven, I too am ashamed for falling for Adam's fraudulent activities. Then again, almost everyone in this so-called "domaining industry" fell for this snake oil salesman.

 

[Charley]

Did any of the bigger guys face similar issues with him?

Frank Schilling's issue was resolved after a blog posting. This we know.

 

[umask077]

It is time people realised that this simply isn't going to happen now. Victims need to pursue other options like chargebacks from their bank or paypal disputes if they have time, or legal avenues for justice if they are motivated enough.

They also need to be very careful though. I was somehow born fearless, but others don't have that mentality and this may dissuade some from going down this route...

https://web.archive.org/web/20040213020440/http://www.satansplayhouse.cx/fraud.php

Somebody made me aware of that by PM and suggested I share. That is a list of names and addresses of people who issued a chargeback against one of Adam Dicker's former businesses, published on the internet.

I got the same message and I will say the same I told him... data protection laws can be a joke in the US, but not in Europe. If he's thinking of publishing personal data of any european citizen, he better think twice because he can end up in court.

 

[anon22339]

Wow, it's amazing that all the old DomainSherpa.com portfolio reviews and other shows that even contained Adam Dicker in them are now deleted from DomainSherpa.com.

How many others here feel that it's wrong for Michael Cyger to have taken this action without explaining to DomainSherpa.com audience members WHY he decided to take this action after his show continually idolized and merchandized Adam Dicker as a "Domain Sherpa" to its thousands of viewers for so long?

Granted, Michael was duped just like the rest of us -- potentially the one individual most egregiously duped by Adam Dicker -- so we can certainly understand his embarrassment. Still, making a video or post explaining his feelings and why he took such extreme action as to delete all old shows that featured Adam Dicker (will they be reposted once all promotional elements of Adam's company are deleted?) seems warranted. It certainly feels missing at this point, and is potentially hurtful to the DomainSherpa brand.

 

[umask077]

Wow, it's amazing that all the old DomainSherpa.com portfolio reviews and other shows that even contained Adam Dicker in them are now deleted from DomainSherpa.com.

How many others here feel that it's wrong for Michael Cyger to have taken this action without explaining to DomainSherpa.com audience members WHY he decided to take this action after his show continually idolized and merchandized Adam Dicker as a "Domain Sherpa" to its thousands of viewers for so long?

Granted, Michael was duped just like the rest of us -- potentially the one individual most egregiously duped by Adam Dicker -- so we can certainly understand his embarrassment. Still, making a video or post explaining his feelings and why he took such extreme action as to delete all old shows that featured Adam Dicker (will they be reposted once all promotional elements of Adam's company are deleted?) seems warranted. It certainly feels missing at this point, and is potentially hurtful to the DomainSherpa brand.

He’s done it to shield himself legally. Remember that he’s been advertising Adam’s services for years and that makes him responsible too(legally speaking). It’s just a defensive position in case of a class action lawsuit. He would argue that he wasn’t aware of anything at all, cutting all lies with Adam businesses the moment he finds out.

 

[WPM]

4. Today, WebInvestments stopped posting. Instead, a new account appeared: WPM. "Web Portfolio Management". "Web xxx" again? Seriously??

Yes... seriously.

Let me be absolutely clear. I am new to NP. You have an issue with that?

I have said that I do know A.D. from chat and phone calls. Never exchanged any money for services.

To be CLEARER, after being disgusted with the way the D.Sherpa videos potrayed Domaining as ezpz, and posted on D.S. for them to be a bit more realistic as to what it does involve, $$$$$. He reached out and we started speaking.

I have been lucky to be able to maintain a portfolio of +- a thousand domains for about 10 years. (of course that is cumlative over time). Hit hard times dues family emergancies and asked A.D. to broker any domains in my portfolio he thought would fetch good $$$ asap. Unfortunately, nothing ever transpired.

And may I add, if he would have sold a domain for me, I would have been grateful as hell. To go one further, if he had a bite on one of my domains and sold it... still no problem. I would be grateful.

That doesn't mean I would have endorsed any nefarios actions and still don't .

I am still a regular guy trying to make a living.

Next issue below.

Thanks for your reply.

But I don't belive I condoned any nefarious actions.

I am not sure if he owed you money... but had he not have to pay another millionaire first... you may have been whole by now.

All I am pointing out is that "carrying debt or credit" between businesses is common practice and it should have been last on the list so the little guy got paid first.

Sorry you have an issue with my statement.

Regards,

WPM

A reply to my comment was...

Considering Adam has done interviews where he has said he's a multi-millionaire and has a portfolio of domains worth over $200,000,000 dollars, how is him having to pay another millionaire $xx,xxx that he is owed have anything to do with him not having enough money in the bank to pay back those who are looking for a smaller amount of $xxx-$xxxx to be refunded. It's all chump change to Adam.


At 26:30 (or 11 minutes and 9 seconds into the convo)....
Interviewer: You made boatloads of money and I think you had said you were worth $200 million
Adam: My portfolio was evaluated at that awhile ago but it's worth more now.

https://www.listenmoneymatters.com/better-know-a-millionaire-with-adam-dicker/
-July 2015

You are right. However, values and evaluations are matters of opinion, no matter what the subject.

I have had many tell me my domains weren't worth reg fees just by looking at the name. But if they don't have in their mind what I am thinking development wise... therein lies the issue.

And further more, just because you own something that may be considered of value, the value has to be shared between to parties for an agreement for a sale.

Just like us, if we could flip a switch and sell any domain we wanted to in 10 minutes and make a profit... we wouldn't be here trying to sell.

My opinion stands... F.S. SHOULD NOT have demnded his money immediately. He was not a "victim" in my eyes. He had the means to allow A.D. to make things right sooner.

I am not defending A.D., just voicing my opinion of how I think ONE person could have helped the situation by not demanding money that may not have made an immediate impact on his life or business.

Thank you for your replies.

Regards,

WPM

 

[DomainGist]

My opinion stands... F.S. SHOULD NOT have demnded his money immediately. He was not a "victim" in my eyes. He had the means to allow A.D. to make things right sooner.

I'm pretty sure Adam Dicker's debt was actually to Frank's company Uniregistry, as he sent Adam Dicker a tweet asking him to contact the Uniregistry billing department. That is money presumably that AD had run up on account.

Forget about how much FS is worth, if a business extends credit terms and repayment is not made on time then they need to take action to get their money to settle the account.

But this point that you keep hammering about Frank getting his money instead of other victims is a moot point. Adam took their money and it wasn't his money to spend until he'd delivered the promised goods or services. Don't forget that. It is Adam Dicker who has decided to settle the debt with FS but not others, probably because he was playing the percentage game and has settled with the person most likely to see him in court.

If Adam Dicker has spent money that he doesn't have, or spent money which he has taken without providing the promised goods or services, then that is entirely his fault and I fail to see how it is that Frank Schilling should be blamed for that in any way, shape or form. His business was just another in a long line of people owed money, their net worth is irrelevant, they were or are owed money.

 

[davidja]

If Adam Dicker is willing to screw over those close to him whom worked with him for years who else is he willing to screw over? imgur.com/a/JGyBX

 

[WPM]

I'm pretty sure Adam Dicker's debt was actually to Frank's company Uniregistry, as he sent Adam Dicker a tweet asking him to contact the Uniregistry billing department. That is money presumably that AD had run up on account.

Forget about how much FS is worth, if a business extends credit terms and repayment is not made on time then they need to take action to get their money to settle the account.

But this point that you keep hammering about Frank getting his money instead of other victims is a moot point. Adam took their money and it wasn't his money to spend until he'd delivered the promised goods or services. Don't forget that. It is Adam Dicker who has decided to settle the debt with FS but not others, probably because he was playing the percentage game and has settled with the person most likely to see him in court.

If Adam Dicker has spent money that he doesn't have, or spent money which he has taken without providing the promised goods or services, then that is entirely his fault and I fail to see how it is that Frank Schilling should be blamed for that in any way, shape or form. His business was just another in a long line of people owed money, their net worth is irrelevant, they were or are owed money.

Your point is valid. However, as I said and you did as well. Businesses doing business. Millions of businesses cary debt and credits between them. It's a vital part in doing business.

We don't know the terms they agreed on. For all we know F.S. may have seen the post and decided to collect immediately. And, he would have a right to.

I am just stating that it could have played out in a different manner.

Thanks for your reply.

 

[DomainGist]

FS would have had no reason to believe that it was an either/or situation, and neither did anybody else, because Adam Dicker claims to have a net worth of $200m and has stated in this thread that he is not insolvent. Why would anybody have previously had reason to believe that a "five figure" debt to FS would leave him incapable of paying other debts? Besides, if you are insolvent you are legally required to file bankruptcy, remember that also. The ball is in the court of those owed money though, they will need to file a claim, because it is clear now that Adam Dicker simply isn't paying.

 

[pqr]

Let me be absolutely clear. I am new to NP. You have an issue with that?

Your "newness" to NP was not what I pointed out. Rather, it was the time you chose to create your account.

I have been lucky to be able to maintain a portfolio of +- a thousand domains for about 10 years. (of course that is cumlative over time). Hit hard times dues family emergancies and asked A.D. to broker any domains in my portfolio he thought would fetch good $$$ asap. Unfortunately, nothing ever transpired.

And may I add, if he would have sold a domain for me, I would have been grateful as hell. To go one further, if he had a bite on one of my domains and sold it... still no problem. I would be grateful.

That doesn't mean I would have endorsed any nefarios actions and still don't .

I am still a regular guy trying to make a living.

Thank you for the details.

You "appeared" to have a lot of Canadian domains - I didn't look closely - I should have. Also, you created an account and commented after the thread was 70+ pages long. I wondered about your motivation for doing so.
There were some more reasons, which I'd keep to myself - in case another shill appears.

I looked at this more closely. Sorry for clubbing you along with Adam & WebInvestments.

I am not sure whether Adam is in contact with you about this situation, but I will take your word for it.

 

[WPM]

Your "newness" to NP was not what I pointed out. Rather, it was the time you chose to create your account.

My "newness" to NP was because when I touched base with A.D. about a week and a half ago he mentioned what was happening. So, out of curiosity I came, I read, and posted "my opinions" on the matter. Clearly stating I never condoned the actions he was accused of. How he handles it has no bearing on me.

That being said, if he contacts me and says he has a buyer for a domain I own, considering escrows etc and business is business, I would still be a grateful guy.

I looked at this more closely. Sorry for clubbing you along with Adam & WebInvestments.

I appreciate your comment.

I must add, I petsonally do not know many of you here... Webinvestments included. I am always for a reasonable, rational conversation. I have no issues of anyone expressing opinions, however, inflamatory remarks to be made by someone with no "personal involvement" should not be the norm.

If were a victim, I'd be spewing my arse off, most likely even more so than those who have issues.

Forget about how much FS is worth, if a business extends credit terms and repayment is not made on time then they need to take action to get their money to settle the account.

Well unless F.S. wants to share that info, ie: net terms etc... we'll never know.

Point being, F.S. no full well the value of A.D. domains as I remember A.D. stating on D.S. shows about the new platform etc., which with however many domains, helps F.S.'s parking and sales platform. F.S.could have easily taken domains as payment. Quite farnkly, that's the business he's in. You get my drift? F.S. may have made out better in the long run taking ownership of a portion of A.D.'s potfolio.

As a "domain buisness man", to me, would seem a better yield.

Thank you for your replies.

Regards,

WPM

 

[Kenny]

idk if anything is going on behind the scenes, but it appears AD has left this "witch hunt" (his words, not mine) without clearing up the majority of the complaints.
Is there more, SB, or has whatever part 2 was about already been breeched by other members?

Peace,
Cy