Impossible to transfer .it domain out of EuroDNS

[mapleleaf]

I had a .it domain for a few years now.

I wanted to transfer the .it domain to Amazon.

EuroDNS is saying that unless I provide European Union contact or Italian Presence, I can't transfer it out. I am a Canadian citizen, I have no relatives in EU.

Please be informed that it will not be possible to transfer the domain away without the trade. You need to have presence in any of the countries of the European Union.

Please ask amazon for a contact in Italy.

Amazon does not provide such contact, yet it is still possible to purchase .it domains through Amazon Route 53.

Basically, I don't know what else to do. I am really at a loss for words.

 

[biggie]

why transfer?

nobody buy domains at amazon

 

[Kate]

Simply put, you are not eligible to own .it domains if you are not a EU resident.
I think you'll have to find a registrar that offers a trustee service.

why transfer?

nobody buy domains at amazon

It doesn't matter where it is registered, because it's not a ccTLD that can be 'pushed'. In fact, Eurodns is not a good place to keep domains..

 

[Rado_Ch]

As I told OP in another forum he posted his issue - how did EuroDNS let him register the .IT domain in the first place? The requirements that EuroDNS told you are global requirements, however they apply for the initial registration, not for a following transfer (as you would have proven your resident status by then).

Also, Amazon is not a domain registrar themselves, and as far as I remember how Route 53 works, you do not physically transfer the domain to their services, you simply redirect it by changing your DNS settings. Hope that helps clear up the confusion

 

[mapleleaf]

you can buy .it domains from amazon.com since 4 days ago.

 

[Rado_Ch]

you can buy .it domains from amazon.com since 4 days ago.

You are correct, to the part that it does deal with domain registration, although the Route 53 domain registration program was launched just a few months ago. That doesn't matter here. You need to make one thing straight - are you talking about a domain registration or a domain transfer. At one point you are talking about a registration, then the issue is with the transfer. First be sure what you want so you can see if it is achievable.

Now, if we are indeed talking about a transfer, I am still unsure if it would be possible to transfer a .IT to Amazon. I know they deal with some ccTLDs but I don't know about this one in particular. So you would have to contact them and explain exactly what you want.

If its a registration question, it all comes down to the specific country rules and it doesn't matter which registrar you are trying to use. By a rule of thumb, for .IT domain names you have to fall into one of the following:

• If your country of origin is Italy, you must enter the Registrant Fiscal Code.
• If your country is within the European Union, you must enter your Identity Document Number, or the numerals that are displayed on an official form of identification.

Simple as that.

Hope that helps.

 

[Atomic Domains]

I thought Route 53 domain registrations went live just a few days ago... Anyway, Amazon won't let you transfer in without a registered address in the European Union... Just make up one

 

[mapleleaf]

Make one up that seems pretty risky, seeing how Italy is corrupted in general by the mob.

Well, looks like it really is impossible to transfer the domain to another registrar unless a European trustee is used.

So I don't think the thread is misleading at all, it really is impossible to transfer out your domain for the average person, unless you have a E.U. company trustee you own.

I really wish they had made this clear when I was registering with them.

This really is frustratingly difficult issue, You are forced to use them, and you simply have no other real choice but to use EuroDNS.

 

[Atomic Domains]

Make one up that seems pretty risky, seeing how Italy is corrupted in general by the mob.

Well, looks like it really is impossible to transfer the domain to another registrar unless a European trustee is used.

So I don't think the thread is misleading at all, it really is impossible to transfer out your domain for the average person, unless you have a E.U. company trustee you own.

I really wish they had made this clear when I was registering with them.

This really is frustratingly difficult issue, You are forced to use them, and you simply have no other real choice but to use EuroDNS.

So let me get this right.....

You're scared to use an European address, because the mob is going to get you, right?

Either way it goes, Amazon is not going to let you transfer in without one. You can still manage your DNS with Route 53 without transferring there...

 

[Rado_Ch]

So I don't think the thread is misleading at all, it really is impossible to transfer out your domain for the average person, unless you have a E.U. company trustee you own.

I really wish they had made this clear when I was registering with them.

This really is frustratingly difficult issue, You are forced to use them, and you simply have no other real choice but to use EuroDNS.

I really can't get this part. So you were NOT asked about any proof of citizenship when you REGISTERED the domain but they are asking you to TRANSFER it? That seems pretty strange to me, as it is a global ICANN rule and you should not be able to get an .IT domain to begin with. In any ways, seems to be the issue is well beyond EuroDNS, if you had completed the requirements to begin with, you should have absolutely no trouble transferring anywhere you want.

 

[mapleleaf]

EuroDNS provided Italian presence.

Cannot transfer to another registrar without a valid Italian presence.

How did I get the domain? I paid for EuroDNS, and can now only pay EuroDNS.

Not really looking for fun here, it's been a frustrating experience so far.

 

[Kate]

Why do you want to transfer out of EuroDNS in the first place ? Not saying that you shouldn't, because they are not a good registrar. But you'd have to find another registrar that provides the trustee service (believe me, there are a few).

You can host your domain anywhere you want, regardless of where it's registered.

 

[biggie]

not to contradict anyone here, but:

personally, I have used eurodns for many years, particularly to register cctld's.

to me, I consider it a sidebar registrar, to be utilized just for those purposes, as I wouldn't register .com/net/org etc. there.

for .it registrations or any other cc location where the registrant doesn't reside, they provide adequate services as a 'sponsor', for such countries where it's permissible.

imo....

 

[Rado_Ch]

EuroDNS provided Italian presence.

Cannot transfer to another registrar without a valid Italian presence.

How did I get the domain? I paid for EuroDNS, and can now only pay EuroDNS.

Not really looking for fun here, it's been a frustrating experience so far.

Well, in this case I don't really see why EuroDNS are to blame. They provided you with a rather unique service (overstepping country-specific domain registration requirements) and they are not the ones that stop you from transferring your domain - the receiving company is, for not being able to provide such a service. I understand that those requirements might not have been clearly shown in your order, but unless this was the first company you tried, you should have been acquainted with the fact that most country specific domains do have some special rules for registration.

Best advice, as already mentioned, would be to find another domain registrar that can offer you such a service and transfer your .it name there.