discuss IF YOU DONT OWN DOT COM YOU DONT HAVE MUCH!

[artstar]

Well after all the hype and hoopla and support ive had over the years trying to support other tlds its now time to admit, IF YOU DONT OWN THE DOT COM YOU DONT HAVE MUCH!

Dot com dot com dot com

No other will do, no other will take its place, no other has its value, no other has a chance against it!!!

I don't care if its now or 20 years from now if you don't own the dot com you are setting yourself up for a loss period end of story!

So to all you newbies, save your $$$$ now and buy or hand reg ONLY dot coms cause if you don't you will find you messed up bigtime!

 

[Chris Rice]

The OP is worthless. It's not that simple folks.

It's worth noting that people reg more worthless .coms than any other TLD which means that more money is wasted on .com than any other extension. Addressing the noobs about .com is only half the story because most noobs ARE ALREADY buying dot com and mostly dot com, because it's the first extension that comes to mind.

You can have an domainer strategically buy a great keyword + nTLD combo and sell it for 7k like Ali Zandi's Night.Vision sale, or you can have an inexperienced domainer reg a dot com that's not worth chicken sh*t and drop it after holding for 5 years.

It's also worth noting that if a domainer knows how to SELL he can sell any domain on any extension because of his salesman skills while another domainer can have a PREMIUM dot com and couldn't sell it if his life depended on it.

Dot com is the absolute best domain extension, because it increases the value because of it's popularity and public familiarity, but that's only half the story when it comes to making a profit.

Excellent post.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

At the end everyone wants to reach the top with his choosen TLDs and there is a new TLD now which gives us the opportunity to label our domain names with .top instead of .com so the OP is pointless IMO but anyway good luck with your all .com's

 

[thedotsol]

The beauty of this business is that there are so many opportunities. Although I stick mostly on .com, I'm very happy to see many others have success in non com-old-popular gTLDs, but more and more sales of all new gTLDs.

Still, I think some of you guys overreacting heavily regarding OP and are pretty biased in your posts which doesn't contribute to this discussion at all, on the contrary.

IMO...

 

[Fancy.domains]

BECAUSE IM STUPID !!

why did u reg yours? BECAUSE THEY WERE CHEAP!!? or both??? lol

Because I find them profitable to sell. After all, I'm a domainer.

 

[iAchilles]

Well after all the hype and hoopla and support ive had over the years trying to support other tlds its now time to admit, IF YOU DONT OWN THE DOT COM YOU DONT HAVE MUCH!

Dot com dot com dot com

No other will do, no other will take its place, no other has its value, no other has a chance against it!!!

I don't care if its now or 20 years from now if you don't own the dot com you are setting yourself up for a loss period end of story!

So to all you newbies, save your $$$$ now and buy or hand reg ONLY dot coms cause if you don't you will find you messed up bigtime!

Overall I sort of agree, but not with the manner in which the general message is conveyed. Also, it's irresponsible to just put out a blanket statement "go hand reg domains". Some ngtlds will be a success imho, the problem is figuring out which ones and not to invest too heavily into any single extension. Avoid premium renewals above $xx at all cost imho.

It takes experience and skill to profit from hand regging domains. If you are going to hand reg these are the best bets.

Future tech - it's unlikely you'll see a ROI for a number of years, and you never will if you reg bad names. Hedge your bets and don't rely on any single tech.

Brandables - You really need to study the market to understand what sells, and I'd also like to add if brandables were so easy to reg and sell, I don't think you'd have as many people selling brand bucket "accepted" domains here on NP.

Making blanket statements to go hand reg domains is very irresponsible advice.

 

[doubleU]

I have never seen so many newbies enter domaining, in the early days everybody was new but they could do little wrong in a .com only world.

I'm afraid this time is much different and the chances of failure is much greater for most.

We all know how much interest the Chinese market as grown in the domain industry since the new gTLDs have launched. It seems to me a lot of this loss will take place in just one nation who has over 50% of all new gTLDs registered.

 

[dordomai]

I have never seen so many newbies enter domaining, in the early days everybody was new but they could do little wrong in a .com only world.

I'm afraid this time is much different and the chances of failure is much greater for most.

We all know how much interest the Chinese market as grown in the domain industry since the new gTLDs have launched. It seems to me a lot of this loss will take place in just one nation who has over 50% of all new gTLDs registered.

The problem with the chinese regs in the nGTLDS is that the numbers are not sustainable. Look at some of the stuff that has been registered. That are things that wouldn't be worth much in .com either so these have to drop sooner or later. They have registered virtually any random combination in many different extensions that have little potential.

Now some say the Chinese do things differently, we don't understand the Chinese market but many Chinese domainers don't understand them either. If no one understands them who is going to buy these?

 

[Fancy.domains]

The problem with the chinese regs in the nGTLDS is that the numbers are not sustainable. Look at some of the stuff that has been registered. That are things that wouldn't be worth much in .com either so these have to drop sooner or later. They have registered virtually any random combination in many different extensions that have little potential.

Now some say the Chinese do things differently, we don't understand the Chinese market but many Chinese domainers don't understand them either. If no one understands them who is going to buy these?

The .COM chips did not makes sense either, just a few years ago. Personally, I think that NNN, LLL and NNNN .VIP, .TOP and .XYZ gonna be really expensive in a few years.

I also think we will see more five and six figure sales of perfect keyword - TLD combinations. Names such as the familiar Travel.agency etc.

Still, this is me speculating and guessing. I can not predict the future and nor can you, but the future will certainly tell if I was wrong, or if I was right.

Ps. Today I bought a few .COMs. I really like them.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

I have never seen so many newbies enter domaining, in the early days everybody was new but they could do little wrong in a .com only world.

I'm afraid this time is much different and the chances of failure is much greater for most.

We all know how much interest the Chinese market as grown in the domain industry since the new gTLDs have launched. It seems to me a lot of this loss will take place in just one nation who has over 50% of all new gTLDs registered.

These Chineses are also registering a tons of English keywords...
So I don't think that we are talking about the Chinese enduser market... it is all about newbies burning their money...

 

[iAchilles]

The problem with the chinese regs in the nGTLDS is that the numbers are not sustainable. Look at some of the stuff that has been registered. That are things that wouldn't be worth much in .com either so these have to drop sooner or later. They have registered virtually any random combination in many different extensions that have little potential.

Now some say the Chinese do things differently, we don't understand the Chinese market but many Chinese domainers don't understand them either. If no one understands them who is going to buy these?

https://www.namepros.com/threads/an...rector-anand-chief-in-sales-marketing.956172/

How are domainers to make money if not only do they have to sell the name at their asking price but then they also have to sell the premium renewal rate. The game is rigged in favour of the registrars in such cases.

I have limited sympathy for their cause, it seems akin to signing a lease knowing exactly the terms, yet giving out once you move in and threatening to leave unless the landlord drops the price.

 

[dordomai]

https://www.namepros.com/threads/an...rector-anand-chief-in-sales-marketing.956172/

How are domainers to make money if not only do they have to sell the name at their asking price but then they also have to sell the premium renewal rate. The game is rigged in favour of the registrars in such cases.

I have limited sympathy for their cause, it seems akin to signing a lease knowing exactly the terms, yet giving out once you move in and threatening to leave unless the landlord drops the price.

You will see more of this happening.... I doubt that the registries will care. The investors want to be treated as investment partners .They won't and they have no rights.

 

[Abdillahi Abdillahi]

The only thing that attracted me to this thread was the capslock of the title.

As for the topic of the thread, even though I am a very much .com man, having little to non of other extensions ( and here , little is like 5 max , with those being .net, .org , info, xyz , .co ) I very very much believe there will be strong interest and market for ngltds and very much believe and see the possible threat looming on the horizon.

For me, it has been personal choice not to have many non .coms but for others it might be due to financial reasons since most domains are priced as premium from the get go.

The only thing I see hurting ngltds is the yearly renewal fees for most of the best names , which I think is making some end users to think not to buy them as for the price of renewal they can easily get highly brandable name that will command $9 renewal per year . And personally, I hope they keep those high renewal prices so I can sell more made up brandables and instantly recongnizable names even though that is a just a long hope as recently RightSide started offering just $12 renewal for their premium names which means they started to understand what is keeping the ngltds from soaring in the market.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

It is a bit like with cars - older generations tend to oldtimers aka .com as best example while younger generations more tend to new modern car models aka .top as best example.

 

[artstar]

well I accomplished what my experiment was intended to do.

the more outlandish and alarming the thread post the more interest it gets of course and that dot com has a lot of competition now and support fior the new gtlds but is and will always be king

domainers sure get emotional and volatile at times that's for sure

im blown away really how words and ext can create such a furor .

anyhow I personally will never reg any ext other than dot com

 

[John Hilpp]

If you're thinking today is forever, you're losing. Sure, .com is king today, but the population is growing, more counties are coming online, and the internet makes the world smaller. Plus, there is a limited number of worthwhile .coms. Just as the days when the early domain investors made great returns on their good .coms, today is an opportunity for investors to grab some really worthwhile domain names with new gTDLs. I wouldn't go overboard but I'm really comfortable with a few dozens gTDLs that I've hand registered, and I'm prepared to wait.

 

[artstar]

dot com will be king as long as the web exists in our lifetime

whats going to replace it?

NOTHING!!!1

get real on that point , its pointless to even try to say otherwise

 

[offersity]

dot com will be king as long as the web exists in our lifetime

whats going to replace it?

NOTHING!!!1

get real on that point , its pointless to even try to say otherwise

You dont know this and not even Frank Schilling knows this...

Maybe you are just having sour grapes???

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

This thread is about nothing...
I already made ~$40K with non-.COMs - so what I'm doing wrong???

 

[franka46]

My prediction
In the next 2/3 years these will be the 5 most popular domains [with chinese help]
COM, NET, XYZ ,TOP ,GDN [ XYZ and TOP could be battling for 3rd place

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Please predict the 5 most popular among endusers...