discuss IF YOU DONT OWN DOT COM YOU DONT HAVE MUCH!

[artstar]

Well after all the hype and hoopla and support ive had over the years trying to support other tlds its now time to admit, IF YOU DONT OWN THE DOT COM YOU DONT HAVE MUCH!

Dot com dot com dot com

No other will do, no other will take its place, no other has its value, no other has a chance against it!!!

I don't care if its now or 20 years from now if you don't own the dot com you are setting yourself up for a loss period end of story!

So to all you newbies, save your $$$$ now and buy or hand reg ONLY dot coms cause if you don't you will find you messed up bigtime!

 

[artstar]

Absolutely!

And I'm sure those guys regret owning .net:
https://namebio.com/?s=AO3IzNxIjN

or .info:
https://namebio.com/?s=AM3IzNxIjN

and don't even think about buying .co - everyone knows it's is just a worthless .com typo:
https://namebio.com/?s=AN5IzNxIjN

those are uber premium keywords

u r cherry picking

now lets see the dot com values of the same

com net top 2 is obvious that's not my deal

im saying overall dot com is the end all be all imo

 

[bluebox]

those are uber premium keywords

So wait, now you CAN profit from other extensions - if you have the right name?
Make up your mind

And these are hardly UBER-premium:
https://namebio.com/?s=gM1YTM0IjN

Of course we're talking about traditional extensions like net/org or cctld. Investing in nGTLDs is more like buying lottery tickets.

 

[Grego85]

my favorite thing lately is when people post some of the crappy names they bought and then put "in king" next to it. Like just because its .com somehow their crappy names are going to have value. Call me crazy, but in many cases,I'd rather have a non .com with an actual good relating keyword before the dot. I believe that one day more companies will also see the value in the new opportunities these new gtlds are creating.

 

[artstar]

So wait, now you CAN profit from other extensions - if you have the right name?
Make up your mind

And these are hardly UBER-premium:
https://namebio.com/?s=gM1YTM0IjN

Of course we're talking about traditional extensions like net/org or cctld. Investing in nGTLDs is more like buying lottery tickets.

u r very observant! my mind is made up, this is a waste of time

keep it coming........

im done

 

[artstar]

my favorite thing lately is when people post some of the crappy names they bought and then put "in king" next to it. Like just because its .com somehow their crappy names are going to have value. Call me crazy, but in many cases,I'd rather have a non .com with an actual good relating keyword before the dot. I believe that one day more companies will also see the value in the new opportunities these new gtlds are creating.

rock on

 

[AuctionBio]

dot com is always on the top and will remain on the top, but i don't agree that if you don't hold dot com you don't have much.
@Grego85 you nailed it here, no need to explain further your point i guess.

 

[Alessandro Couteau]

Interesting thoughts

However you have to realize you're looking at GTLDs from an investor standpoint and expecting a return like liquid domain names in the bracket of LLLL.com, LLL.com, LL.com and the same goes for numerical domains.

The problem is and most people aren't aware is there are some extremely wealthy people in the domain industry and buying these names and pumping the hype up is what creates a pandemic and market crash.

GTLDs are not based on a market ... They don't have definitive price points and they are most certainly not for everyone. As the Internet world continue to grow though; GTLDs will become an equally more advanced part of the Internet ! And recent sales start to speak for themselves.

Hanes just purchased a GTLD for $30K yet we hear people arguing about UDRPs for regular old generic domains.

And see here's another problem. You only see the market for what it is. I won't speak out of term but I represent some very very expensive domains and I've managed to communicate with companies like Microsoft and HTC and these companies spend billions upon billions of dollars. Yet they can't afford to write a check for some domain name that could mean potential traffic to them. Truth be told, there exact reply was "well GTLDs are the new coming event in the Internet world" !!! -not my words

Won't say names but one of the Executives Microsoft told me this at the same time they bought LinkedIn for $26B ?! I'm dying

The major point here is GTLDs are not to be controlled by market value or appreciation. It's just more space for the Internet world and a brand new condo in Newyork with a Central Park view is just as nice as the town home in Manhattan of course one has more character but it's all a matter of opinion.

My true opinion - you're then welcome to disagree as that's your opinion. But be cautious, everyone called the Kings of this industry crazy for investing in names and that was just 20 years ago ?! What will happen in another 20 years ?!

 

[Perceptron]

.COM reigns No Doubt about that at all!
Buying an obscure combination of Keyword.Keyword will hit you with no sales.
But saying :

IF YOU DONT OWN THE DOT COM YOU DONT HAVE MUCH!

is equally mistaken!
I just checked my keyword sales data, though there is only 50, ranging between $XX to $X,XXX (Not including sales of liquid domains)
I have made 30% of my sales in .Org, with the highest revenue and ROI!
.Com is 2nd, followed by ccTLD, .NET and .Agency

It just depends on your strategy. .Com is the safest bet.
But we all know, high risk, high return, low risk, low return!

 

[dordomai]

Truth be told, there exact reply was "well GTLDs are the new coming event in the Internet world" !!! -not my words

Honestly, executives are some of the most clueless people when it comes to domains.

Now in that context you make it seem that "insiders" and "corps" are somehow in the know of what big things are coming. They are not. They have always been asleep when it comes to domains and they will be asleep 10 years from now. One of the reasons why they can't write a check for a substantial sum is because domains that are costly are still considered to be overpriced and a waste of money. They don't understand them.

You could as well ask a person in the forum here to make a prediction.

What will happen in another 20 years ?!

I won't be domaining 20 years from now.

In the fast changing internet landscape I won't invest more than 10 years in the future.

.com will likely do well for the next 10 years.

The nGTLDs are really unpredictable. It could be many years before we see investors seeing their investments pay-off. It might never happen.

If you want to take a big risk for a huge return that's fine. You have to take some risks if you want extraordinary returns.

 

[brandnow]

I love investing in nGTLDs.. but of course.. I almost always try to grab the .com pair.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

US-company owns .com but purchased custom.pro for 4K EUR last week.
So this thread is completely bla-bla-bla...

 

[Chris Rice]

If you want to take a big risk for a huge return that's fine. You have to take some risks if you want extraordinary returns.

You mean a small risk for a huge return?
@dordomai

All of the domains I bought were less than $15.00 each.

.COMs on the other hand cost a lot and if the market changes and .com's decrease in value, some people might suffer a loss.

Most people forget that every market entails Boom & Bust - Cycles. And the hilarious thing is that most .commers have never experienced a Major Bear Market before.

Remember, what goes up must come down, eventually. And .com just experienced the biggest boom in domaining history.

A word to the wise, buy after a market crashes, not at the peak of a Bull market.

 

[Fancy.domains]

As long as you have very good keywords .COM is the king. That is so obvious, so we don't even have to mention it. BUT with crappy two-three word combinations, it's a totally different story as they will be almost impossible to sell.

It's like saying, I prefer Mercedes more than Mazda. Most of us will probably agree on this, but if your option is a rusty, broken Mercedes from the early 70's, a brand new Mazda might be an better one.

And yes, you can sell other extensions than .COM, but still you need good ones. Rather obvious that too.

 

[Chris Rice]

As long as you have very good keywords .COM is the king. That is so obvious, so we don't even have to mention it. BUT with crappy two-three word combinations, it's a totally different story as they will be almost impossible to sell.

It's like saying, I prefer Mercedes more than Mazda. Most of us will probably agree on this, but if your option is a rusty, broken Mercedes from the early 70's, a brand new Mazda might be an better option.

And yes, you can sell other extensions than .COM, but still you need good ones. Rather obvious that too.

On point @kohsamui as usual.

 

[Kate]

It's still easier to sell an average .com than a good ngTLD. At least nobody questions the TLD.
Even if you have a prime generic ngTLD, and assuming you didn't pay a lot for it, and that it's not subject to premium renewal fees, it's still difficult to sell it for a big sum.
That's why no domainers are selling ngTLDs for big amounts. Only the registries are. Sure, exceptions do happen but still.

 

[Chris Rice]

It's still easier to sell an average .com than a good ngTLD. At least nobody questions the TLD.
Even if you have a prime generic ngTLD, and assuming you didn't pay a lot for it, and that it's not subject to premium renewal fees, it's still difficult to sell it for a big sum.
That's why no domainers are selling ngTLDs for big amounts. Only the registries are. Sure, exceptions do happen but still.

Yes. That's an accurate description of the current market. But @kohsamui is one of the few investors on NamePros that purchased a good amount of single word .xyz at the very beginning.

The .commers would have criticised his judgement and probably did, but not now.

WHY?
His list of .xyz domains would renew at $1,000.00 - $3,000.00 per domain if someone purchased them directly from the registry today. But the domains he bought in 2015 and in the beginning of 2016 will renew at less than $15.00 per domain.

As a whole, companies like Google, Wordpress, Amazon and .CLUB have invested over $100 million USD (or will soon) in GTLDs. And as I said before, that kind of effort will not be subdued.

Think about it. @Kate

 

[FPForum]

Just completed a .SPACE sale 2 weeks ago for low $XXXX and it's why I love threads like this.. Probably the reason why I only paid $2.99 for that name, lol.

We're all entitled to our own opinions, but one thing I will say is that I personally believe gTLDs will definitely be a thing of the future. There isn't enough good COM's to go around and people know the importance of shorter domains on the world wide web these days. Rather than going with a longer or hyphenated .com (such as BlueWidgetsHouston.com), many companies would probably want something like Blue.Widgets instead, especially knowing how important a short & easy to remember domain is these days. Don't forget we will also be seeing plenty more advertising from places like Donuts and Minds+Machines to make these new extensions become more mainstream. Just give it time..

 

[disaac81]

Having a dot com plays to the strengths of the subconscious part of the mind.

Why is branding so important?
Why is a brand name so important?

The same reasons as having the ideal tld is important. Without writing a book it is hard to explain, but it is the perception built in your mind, with parts of the subconscious that play in making the decision as to whether this business is good, or great.

Language is powerful. As .com is the pinnacle of what is possible on a global level, it makes sense to have the .com of your business name.

As mentioned earlier, .org is perfect for organizations and non-profits, because it communicates that distinct message in our minds.

Think of it like this:

Loans.com
Loanz.com

If I am getting a loan, I want to approach a respectable, trustworthy company. Well, loanz to me does NOT speak those messages to me, all that just from a name.

So again, consider these:

loans.com
loans.loans
loans.store

In the subconscious the .com wins in every aspect of the messages that matter. The perception of the brand, the business is that it is authentic, and they care about their image.

The others are just missing something. They lack the depth of a serious business, of that personal brand experience. Loans.store is better than loans.loans. Think your business looks clever by repeating the word twice? No, it makes you look like an amateur that ran out of good ideas. It almost creates a spammy feel, like the old days of warez sites.

 

[doubleU]

IF YOU DONT OWN DOT COM YOU DONT HAVE MUCH!

There was a time when this was true but with the advent of ccTLDs this has all changed and it's often the case where a ccTLD website owner prefers their national ID to represent them.

 

[disaac81]

Can't compare .com with cctlds, two different uses entirely imo.

.com is for a global presence, cctlds are for targeting that geo area, whether you are based there or offer something unique for that region.