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[equity78]

If the .tv marketplace was closed would anyone actually notice?

I am making this thread because I am not going to get back to the 18 pms individually I have got over the last week.

I do not know why nothing sells ? I do not know what people are looking for ?
To be honest I have found the last few months beyond boring from every aspect.

Now I have had pms saying not everyone should be allowed to post in the .tv marketplace because their bad .tv are hurting their potential good .tv.

I do not agree with this, and everyone is allowed to post within the rules of the .tv marketplace.

Someone suggested a week experiment where only great names were allowed . I do not think that experiment would succeed.

Someone else suggested closing it as it is an embarassment. Its not getting closed.

Now I will say if there is not a lot of business going on and not a lot of compelling conversation and no offense IMO seeing a .tv on tv is not compelling conversation. I am not sure what reason people are coming here but I cannot make them buy your domains. Everything.tv has started up and I will be doing more to promote on there and throw some new wrinkles in.

I would say do not reg domains you think you can flip here have a plan beside flipping here. I would say that overall its great that we are seeing some big companies doing this and that but do not confuse that with flipping here.

Try Ebay, try cold calling end users but I do not have a special key to get you $300 for a week old registration. Work on development, if you build unique, original content, "THEY WILL WATCH" Again IMO

 

[jeffoverman]

Some good points ray. I will be the first one to admit I had some bad names listed in there I think everyone has.

Its frustrating at times but that's a life experince from my view. You learn and move forward.

J

 

[equity78]

Jeff first off Bad is relative, I have seen domains that were scoffed at, sell for x,xxx
WestBlock tried to give Neun.tv away for $20 nothing sold for over $2000

Bday.tv sold for over $1000

You never know who is going to want what.

You need to be selling all over trying everything.

 

[recluse99]

I currently have 2 dot tv's, I did little development and get over 100 visitors a day with NO advertisement. The dot tv is expanding fast and most people/end users can still reg their desired names. Once those names are gone the market WILL grow fast. With so many ccTLD's the resell factor for dot tv's is slim right now, most people want to make sure that the train does go to profit town before they get on it...
buy your ticket now, and smile when the masses come hollering

 

[treebytheriver]

You know I start to take some of the comments you received personally, because I am one of the new people here and I'm sure many of you think I have some poor names. I for one have a special idea for each and every one of my domains, and have never bought a domain that I am not interested in developing, just for the soul purpose of "flipping". Every single domain I have I have either hand regged or bought from someone here for a great price, and I am proud that I have no premium renewals.

Yes I ask for opinions, and respect many of you very much. A few people here do seem to be overwhelmingly negative, but I guess that can be expected anywhere.

I hope to not be shut down as one of the new people with subpar names. Sorry to be ranting I've had a very long day at work....

H

 

[equity78]

Nothing is being shut down. I am not sure I understand the pride in no premium renewals. That would imply not having premiums is better than having them which IMO is not true. They are one choice, premiums serve their purpose just like everything else.

 

[jeffoverman]

I have 2 main thoughts on this

1. .tv domainers and developers are spending there money on renewals and yearly rental fees. There keeping there good names and dropping the rest off. The money they are saving or trying build cash on is being on developments and trying draw a unique audience and find a revenue model. That's the group I want to be in vs holding 1000 .tv names. I would rather own 2 developed .tv sites then carry the hefty fees

2. Economy. Plain and simple. When gas is at over 4 dollars a gallon, my wife has a great job, but with me as a retail business and my second job I think most familes are challenged now. I know we are and living in Detroit area were the first ones that get hit the hardest and last ones to get out of slowing economy. Sure we like our pf changs, Starbucks coffee, my dog likes her canned food but were cutting back a lot. So to tie this into domaining, I am cutting way back and bigger is not better. Then when I am done reorganizing my names, renewing names, watching some other expenses that's when I am starting the development phase up again. When there isn't much money around are people really thinking oh I need to add to my .tv collection or I need gas in the car or let's build our cash postion up

Then I guess the third could be a huge potentially damage everyone and that's the snow bill. Geos, common names and etc. I would be amazed if it passes but if it does just another strain into domaining as a whole some.

Who knows. I don't know all the answers but that's the way I see things and cash is tight and or development expenses.

Good luck everyone.

J

Ps I wish my .tv names would sell that much ray lol. Guess you never know and that's the fun part of domaining.

 

[treebytheriver]

Nothing is being shut down. I am not sure I understand the pride in no premium renewals. That would imply not having premiums is better than having them which IMO is not true. They are one choice, premiums serve their purpose just like everything else.

I really didn't mean to turn it into a premium vs nonpremium argument, I would just hope that the big dealers here can respect the little fish that can't afford premiums or their renewals, or have other priorities. We reg what we can.
We develop within our means. I was just feeling a bit sensitive about the whole "bad names" comments.

 

[equity78]

Oh I understand and that's why I think bad is relative, and from some of the domains you posted I do not think your domains are bad. ArtSchool is excellent IMO

 

[poiuytrewq]

I love the TV marketplace. It is perfect.

 

[treebytheriver]

Oh I understand and that's why I think bad is relative, and from some of the domains you posted I do not think your domains are bad. ArtSchool is excellent IMO

No problem equity, all is well

I did just barge into this forum from out of the blue!

But I hope you know that I respect your opinions and honesty very much, as well as those from others.

Have a great night!

Heidi

 

[domainacrobat]

Maybe if folks spent their energy trying to sell their domains instead using time end effort complaining.

It may very well be that the bulk of names are not attractive and folks may want to "dump" names that dont fit their niche, or are not worth renewing. How is that different from any other marketplace?

I personally make great use of the .TV marketplace.

 

[poiuytrewq]

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[equity78]

No you cool Grooves, I started the thread to respond to everyone who has pmmed and it was a lot 18 altogether, with some people saying," I am outta here thanks for nothing." hahahaha

 

[poiuytrewq]

Yeah, well that does seem like an over reaction EQ.

 

[hullswingerscom]

i cant understand at all why people would pm eq and moan,

and i am a moaner...lol

 

[StoneRoses]

Maybe if folks spent their energy trying to sell their domains instead using time end effort complaining.

It may very well be that the bulk of names are not attractive and folks may want to "dump" names that dont fit their niche, or are not worth renewing. How is that different from any other marketplace?

I personally make great use of the .TV marketplace.

Couldn't agree more.

It seems like some people need constant reassurance that .TV will succeed, if you are not sure about .TV or are that worried that you feel the need to pm Ray, asking such questions then you are in the wrong game imo.
I have always been of the view that only you can make it succeed,there are people that DO and there are those that sit round bitching about how unlucky they have been in life,but never actually do anything to try and get what they want.
I don't normally get this animated, but one thing that gets to me is people who bitch and moan about things but can't get of their arse to try and do something about it.


I am probably as guilty as anyone about trying to sell what one may consider to be sub standard names in the For Sale Section, but as DomainAcrobat says, i now have names that no longer fit into my plans and what i am supposed to do,just let them expire and not try to sell them,just because someone thinks they are crap and they are an embarasment,well i am sorry but i am not going to let someones views of my names stop me from trying to sell them and nor should anyone else,the last time i looked this was not some Elitest Boys club for people with premium names.
As Ray stated some names on here could not sell on here yet found homes with people for $xxx or even $x,xxx.

If this forum doesn't meet with some peoples approval then may i suggest they stop frequenting it and open one that does meet with their high standards ( pretentiouspricks.com is still available).

 

[dreamscometrue]

My thoughts.

If you look at your child every morning for 12 months, you probably won't notice his growth.

If you frequent the .TV forum 42 times a day for 12 months, you probably won't notice it's growth. (because you are overwhelmed with negative posts, average domains and constant bickering between supporters and naysayers.)

The bottom line is, the .TV marketplace is not always booming, however, the domains and/or pricing isn't always booming either. Point the finger at....ourselves? Well, maybe, maybe not, but as Equity mentioned, he can't force people to visit the site or buy your domains. But, in fact, .TV domains are selling across the board, but you have to keep in mind--the space is still fairly ripe with alternatives and semi-generics, and in certain cases private sales *are* occurring behind the scenes. Things take time...and with time and education it will get better--quarter after quarter. (for those with good to great domains, like with ANY tld) It is just a matter of time before more and more people/investors/companies convert/develop...as it's already happening, and NO ONE can stop it.

The truth is--and ALWAYS has been, good names sell, great domains sell faster. Back to reality, the average domains are...average, and people do not want to hoard "average" domains (especially for $25 instead of $8). Now, think about the $500, $1,000 and higher premiums that are NOT "flipping" style domains because of the "prestige status".

And let me say this...just because a domain is a "premium" via Enom/Verisign, that doesn't actually translate into a "real world" premium domain name. Everyone in the industry has stretched and manipulated the term "premium" into their own agenda/classification.

My advice. Buy short, sweet, brandable domains. Stick with keyword/phrase that mean something to a large group of people. Try to think of how the "TV brand" can be best suited for your domain/creativity. In closing, of course, GEO DOMAINS. It is not a fad or trend. Research. Research. Research. Truth be told, and this is not in pure arrogance, but I've worked my A$$ OFF data-mining for 13 straight months (8-16 hours a day)...and like they say, hard work pays. Domaining is not easy, not even close--and as a matter of fact, it is nearly impossible. ( healthy funding/credit, great knowledge/ambition, savvy/instincts, etc, all MAJOR components of early success, which is A LOT to ask for.)

I personally have "1032"/2901 domains (i counted) I should NOT have registered and regret each and every one of them. EVERYONE has to go through the learning curve, the important part is how fast can you learn...? (before breaking the bank or your nerves...or both?)

In closing, I truly wish everyone the best year ever, but the .TV marketplace should not ever be closed--period. People who email and waste Equitys time and energy are simply foolish and immature. Take responsibility for your own regs and more importantly take it upon yourself to "make it happen". *NOTHING* is FREE/EASY in this world, and YOU are the ONLY person that can stop you from succeeding.

RESEARCH before you REGISTER.



NY

 

[hullswingerscom]

waste Equitys time and energy are simply foolish and immature

yes i 2nd that...

 

[equity78]

Oh well thank you and its not a waste I do understand being frustrated. I think it is more of a case of a bunch of sellers who are basically vulture buyers all hanging at the same spot. Like 6 heterosexual guys going to a bar and there are no women its a frustrating situation because everyone is in the same position.

Funny thing I got a call today on CaliforniaWines.tv, I ask who are you thinking maybe someone from here. He says you don't know me I just noticed CaliforniaWines.tv but then never made an offer or anything. I actually educated him a little and he was like oh Premiums ? ENoM ? He was looking at bistro when he went to godaddy unavailable and then showed him its available for $1000 premium pricing.

So many out there have no clue, I know a guy at a company I said there is a name on SEDO you guys might need, (not mine) and they have domains but did not hear of SEDO and he said we would never buy on there anyway. We go direct or find another domain. So there is a lot of miscommunication.