discuss I sold .com for $200. Did I negotiate well?

[PoorKing]

I sold a 10+ characters <fullname>.com for $200. The domain is the name of the person and is not premium. Could I have asked for more?

I would appreciate some feedback from the pros on this forum or anyone who has previously sold a similar domain.

PS: Sorry, can't disclose the domain name since it's sold now and not my property anymore.

 

[karmaco]

Actually I think that is a good argument to own it.

If you own a popular name combo, shared by thousands of people, it is awfully hard for any (1) party to claim ownership. How many Bob Smith, Steve Jones or Brian Johnson are out there? A lot...and they always have demand for combos with a large pool of buyers.

In this case I have no idea. I own some of these domains and there is no combo I would sell for $200, but I also don't own combos with small pools of potential buyers.

Brad

Your points are solid if ethics are excluded from the equation. I don’t find it very ethical to obtain other peoples identities. But to each his own.

It doesn’t matter how many Bob Smiths there are if you aren’t a Bob Smith. Pretty sure UDRP would see it the same.

They took a domainer woman’s actual name and gave it to a different woman with the same name. Remember that?

 

[bmugford]

Your points are solid if ethics are excluded from the equation. I don’t find it very ethical to obtain other peoples identities. But to each his own.

It doesn’t matter how many Bob Smiths there are if you aren’t a Bob Smith. Pretty sure UDRP would see it the same.

They took a domainer woman’s actual name and gave it to a different woman with the same name. Remember that?

I don't see this as an "ethical" situation.

A popular FirstLast.com name is no more unique than a normal Surname.com to me. If 15,000 people have the Surname XXXXX.com and 15,000 people are named XXXXXSmith.com they are equally unique in my view.

The easy defense to any dispute is that it is so popular you are not targeting any specific party. It is the same defense for a surname or a FirstLast.com and you would have strong footing defending in a UDRP, unless there were unique circumstances, like you were actually trying to target a specific party.

The case around HeidiPowell.com is what you are referring to. It was not via the UDRP system.
If that went to UDRP the complainant would have lost.

The original lawsuit was dismissed with prejudice on the merits of the cybersquatting case.

What happened next was a complete miscarriage of justice involving a years old bankruptcy case and payout to take it.

That entire thing was a ridiculous abuse of the legal system -

https://onlinedomain.com/2017/02/24...aim-still-tries-steal-domain-heidipowell-com/

The good news is that last night the Arizona federal court dismissed with prejudice Arizona Heidi’s cybersquatting claims against us, which means that they cannot be asserted again in the future. This is the outcome we expected to happen within the first few weeks after she filed the suit against us. I have to say, it’s been an exhausting and emotional seven months trying to make this happen. We are very relieved that it’s over.

The bad news is, we are having to continue fighting for my name as Arizona Heidi is continuing the attempt to steal it though the bankruptcy court. As you know she caused our released bankruptcy from 2012 to be reopened by offering the trustee $10,000 if he would re-open it, take my name and sell it to her.

After attending the first bankruptcy hearing we had great news that the trustee had filed a motion with the court and we would be retaining my name. That motion is public & can be looked up (dated Dec. 30th) …in a nutshell the trustee said “it is unclear whether the domain name is an asset of the bankruptcy estate. It is unclear whether Debtors properly claimed the exemption in the domain name”. Even so, we filed an amended schedule and he allowed us to use $7,953 of unclaimed exemptions and make up the difference (of the $10,000) by giving him $2,047, the so called non-exempt portion. I delivered the money to our attorney’s office that day and we celebrated this the next day on New Years Eve.

The next hearing which we believed would sign & seal that motion was set for Jan. 25th. Sometime between Dec. 30th and Jan. 13th, on finding out the trustee was not selling her the name, Arizona Heidi’s attorney, called the trustee and said she would now pay him $20,000 instead of $10,000. The trustee then moved the next hearing date to March 11th to give himself time. The bad news happened yesterday as the trustee has yet again changed his mind by striking his own motion allowing us to keep my name and has filed a new motion saying he is now selling it to Arizona Heidi instead, for $20,000 this time.

 

[King]

"Did I negotiate well" Doesn't state how the negotiation actually went.

I would have asked for AT LEAST $1000 , many people have the same first/last name pair.

 

[wot]

You are suffering from a disease that affects many persons parting with assets, it is called "sellers remorse".
Get well soon.

 

[Reallybigidea.com]

I sold a 10+ characters <fullname>.com for $200. The domain is the name of the person and is not premium. Could I have asked for more?

I would appreciate some feedback from the pros on this forum or anyone who has previously sold a similar domain.

PS: Sorry, can't disclose the domain name since it's sold now and not my property anymore.

the first thing you have sold it more than reg-fee this is very good! so congratulations!

is your sold name was more popular than this Indian film actor and Instagram star :
imdb.com/name/nm2383152/
wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruslaan_Mumtaz

I have his first name in king he is not responding.

 

[Culminant Domain]

Hey, I just sold a car for $4000. Blue four-wheeled Toyota. Could I have asked for more?

Probably not.

 

[Joe N]

Your points are solid if ethics are excluded from the equation. I don’t find it very ethical to obtain other peoples identities. But to each his own.

It doesn’t matter how many Bob Smiths there are if you aren’t a Bob Smith. Pretty sure UDRP would see it the same.

They took a domainer woman’s actual name and gave it to a different woman with the same name. Remember that?

I think that if you have an ethical dilemma with owning a FirstLast name combo, then you probably have an ethical issue with domaining, period.

What's the difference between owning the name of a person you're not using, and the name of a company you're not using? It's the exact same thing. You're holding it for value because you're speculating that it will hold value for someone else at some point.

In both cases you could argue it's unethical to retain an asset for purely speculative purposes. You could also make the counter argument that you plan to use either name at some future point in time. For example: who's to say that I don't plan to have a child named Ferdinand Barton? I'm just holding the name for if/when that happens.

I have no issue with the ethics of it. I mean... I get what you're saying (because a person's name is personal), but it's splitting hairs if you really think about it.

For my part, I've bought only a few names like this in the past. Sold one for about $2.5K. I tend to agree with Brad that all but the very common ones should be avoided. If you do a targeted Google search for the name and get 500K+ results, then you're on the right track.

 

[Soofi]

You didn't sell FIRST+LASTNAME.com well, if you actually let it go for mere $200 and I DO NOT NEED TO KNOW THE NAME TO HIGHLIGHT THAT BUD.

But you can always reinvest those $200 to grab few better domains to sell well and get better in the domain name investing game.

Best wishes for your success!

 

[redemo]

Domain investing is a business venture, whatever anybody thinks it is (in my opinion, could be wrong). Your objective is to earn more than you spend. How much you aim to earn is up to. In your scenario above you sold domain x for $ 200 after you invested $ x and spent x hours promoting at your hourly rate which is worth $ to you. Therefore $ 200 minus x hours at $ x per hour = ? You tell us if this was a good investment or not. Did you make minimum hourly rate in your country? Did you earn a profit on your domain name investment?

 

[frank-germany]

I sold a 10+ characters <fullname>.com for $200. The domain is the name of the person and is not premium. Could I have asked for more?

I would appreciate some feedback from the pros on this forum or anyone who has previously sold a similar domain.

PS: Sorry, can't disclose the domain name since it's sold now and not my property anymore.

yes

never sell that low again