Hundreds of doubts! Set price, ccTLD, etc

[ocaio]

I registered some names, around 250 names with different TLDs. Some of those domains I want to use for different purposes, but I’m new as a Domainer and I have a lot of doubts, so I really appreciate if someone could help me with a solution for those doubts:

1. Setting a selling price: I’ve read that prices depends on a lot of factors, most of them are subjective, so it is difficult to convert a subjective value on an objective value and therefore set a selling price. Finally I decided to consider some objective criteria to try to build a formula in order to set a selling price, but I’m having some problems to do it:

a. Nr of words: Is this a important criteria to consider in order to set a price? If response is affirmative, how should I convert nr of words in a value?
b. TLD type: How can I estimate a different price on the same name registered in different TDLs? Eg: xxxxxx.com, xxxxxx.info, xxxxxx.net.. etc
c. Nr of letters: The same problem as the first question
d. Search volume (exact): What percentage of CTR may I calculate of volume income on my website of people that search
e. Trend: Is this an important criteria to establish a price? How can I value an uptrend or downtrend in a domain price
f. CPC campaign estimated income: I Don’t know how can I get the average price of the keywords related to my domain. The only reference I got regarding this is the estimated price of CPC to be in first place in Adwords.

2. TLDs: Sometimes I find hot names registered with gTLD with high price value which are available in ccTLD. I’m focusing my interest in .co names, and I want to know your opinion about if it could be a good investment registering .co names and if a High value of a name with a gTLD, specially .com is a guarantee of a good value on .co TLD

3. Marketplaces: Is a good idea to list my domains in several marketplaces at the same time?

4. Management: There’s any free tool or low cost program to help me to manage my portfolio of domains? Currently I’m using excel, and is pretty hard with 250, I can’t imagine how difficult could it be with much more. I prefer something useful, even if I have to pay for it, as long as it is not too much expensive. I don’t know if exist a program that calculate cost of investment of each domain/portfolio

5. Parking: Is it better to build a page for each domain or park them with an external service?

I’ve got much more doubts, but these are enough for today. I hope you guys can help me! Thank you for your help
(sorry for my written mistakes, is not my born language)

 

[Name Trader]

2. Personally, I don't think focusing your interest in .co domains is a good strategy, unless you are working on the "greater fool" theory.
3. Yes
4. Personally, I think using a spreadsheet to manage 250 domains is the most optimal solution. I'm surprised you are finding it hard to manage. I don't know what you consider cheap/expensive, but the $120 I paid for DomainPunch was worth every penny. I highly recommend it. There is a free trial version.
5. It's harder to create a good parking page than it is to use a parking company. Most domainers are a lazy bunch and just park their domains with a third party.

 

[ocaio]

Hi Stub,

Thank you for your reply! Is very helpful!

What do you think about point 1? There's any key or formula to calculate a value of my domains in order to sell them? At least an standard way to do that?

thanks!

 

[Kate]

I registered some names, around 250 names with different TLDs. Some of those domains I want to use for different purposes, but I’m new as a Domainer and I have a lot of doubts, so I really appreciate if someone could help me with a solution for those doubts:

So you are a new domainer and you already have 250 domains ? I'm pretty sure your portfolio is low-quality. It's the #1 newbie mistake, buying up loads of domain names of questionable value (that will never sell).
I guess you are already $4000 in the red, you could have bought an LLL.com instead.

What do you think about point 1? There's any key or formula to calculate a value of my domains in order to sell them? At least an standard way to do that?

Do you really think domaining is that easy ?
The problem is that the demand is limited and cannot absorb all the supply. So the vast majority (99%+) of all domain names will never sell.
Many sales are unpredictable.
There are very few people who buy domain names, and even those who do generally won't be repeat customers.

I think you are asking yourself the wrong questions. For instance, comparing value between TLDs doesn't make a lot of sense most of the time. And a keyword that is good in .com will probably not do well in a ccTLD.
There is little correlation between metrics and domain value, or the likelihood that the domain will ever sell.

Selling domains is more art than science, but I think what anybody should do is to look at reported sales, see what kinds of names are in demand, in which extensions, and figure out why. Then, armed with the knowledge, you will understand how to pick domains that somebody else would want.

 

[Name Trader]

1. Setting a selling price: I’ve read that prices depends on a lot of factors, most of them are subjective, so it is difficult to convert a subjective value on an objective value and therefore set a selling price. Finally I decided to consider some objective criteria to try to build a formula in order to set a selling price, but I’m having some problems to do it:

a. Nr of words: Is this a important criteria to consider in order to set a price? If response is affirmative, how should I convert nr of words in a value?
b. TLD type: How can I estimate a different price on the same name registered in different TDLs? Eg: xxxxxx.com, xxxxxx.info, xxxxxx.net.. etc
c. Nr of letters: The same problem as the first question
d. Search volume (exact): What percentage of CTR may I calculate of volume income on my website of people that search
e. Trend: Is this an important criteria to establish a price? How can I value an uptrend or downtrend in a domain price
f. CPC campaign estimated income: I Don’t know how can I get the average price of the keywords related to my domain. The only reference I got regarding this is the estimated price of CPC to be in first place in Adwords.

a-c one word dictionary nouns .com domains below 10 characters are the most valuable.
d 0%. You can't guarantee any % of searches will ever visit your site unless your site is ranked top of any google search. Which a parked page never will.
e You cannot value a trend.
f Financial keywords are valuable, education and health too.

I didn't answer part one because I don't really have any answers. It entirely depends on what the buyer is prepared to pay for a domains. For example Apple has many more funds than Joe Blog selling screws in Wilmington. But with Apple, unless you register the domain before they have a trademark, you'll be on the end of a Trademark dispute which could expose you to millions of dollars worth of debt. And then there is everything in between. It entirely depends on what the buyer is prepared to pay, which falls outside all the metrics you quote.

 

[navdomains]

I have to agree with sdsinc that you have dived without gauging the depth of the water. These questions, if, should have raised before buying rather than after and that too 250 domains!!!! And are 50% of them .pw domains? I Hope Not.

As sdsinc said that most domain sales are unpredictable and yes they are because you never know what the end user has in mind exactly while looking for a domain name to buy. You can only predict and that too what general population would look for in a domain name (short, good keyword search, etc) but an end user might buy a domain name which wouldn't even make sense.

.com's are the most favourable as compared to ccTLD's because thats what comes to your mind first regardless of geographical location.

Ask yourself, if you haven't yet, what each and every domain you registered would represent? What target audience or niche market you had in mind while you registered each domain? What is the unique keyword within the domain? As you mentioned that majority of them are ccTLD's, then what country code domains they are? Whether they suit the current trend within that geographical location? As stub suggested, create a spreadsheet and segregate domains into various categories to start with just to give yourself an idea of your approach and try and do an appraisal for some domains to give you bit more insight about the value.

 

[DomainAgents]

Eep! Well kudos for jumping in with two feet. You've probably made a few mistakes, but everybody does.

We posted a long article about domain valuation here: https://domainagents.com/domainvaluation.php

But from a very general standpoint, most new domainers vastly overestimate the value of domains. .com's are the most valuable obviously, but perhaps only 10% of those have any resale value.

See if you can identify people or companies that would be interested in the domains you own. You can also list your domains on some marketplaces without setting a price and that may help you determine what you've got.

 

[Name Trader]

And you probably don't own any of that 10% which have any resale value. Or whatever percentage you think has resale value.

 

[fm1234]

Grace delete them all, send me half the money, go to bed knowing you're still better off than you will be in a year having regged 250 domains coming out of the gate.


Frank

 

[gmd]

1. Domain value is on the "buyers" eye no matter the extensions (but focused more on .com) . Valuations are just a guide and sometimes exaggeratedly priced your domains.

2. .CO domains are properly marketed by its registrar, plus godaddy and super bowl, but wont be much on parking. Perhaps you can monetized them by finding an end user or build a website and flip. But on the recent months .co has been in the sales pages on dnjournal it, s a risk but thats where all here in this business to takethe risk.

3. Depending on how premium your name is, if it is practical for a paid market listings or just go for the free listing instead. Always remember that there are millions of domains listed on a free listing and your percentage of a sale is quitee litte.



5. Parking your damain without traffic is useless. Develope them and flip.

lastly, the number one rule for a domainer is to never fall inlove with your domain if you intent to start a business in this field unless you wanted to scroll the discount codes for renewal. Months before the renewal you can list them here at namepros for auction or for sale forthose domains thatyou wanted to get rid off, atleast some dollars or much better to get even your reg fees. Good luck.

 

[scorzaze]

I can't answer your questions like the posters on this thread because I'm still learning and still making mistakes. I feel your doubts and want to say, it's not the end of the world. I remember dropping close to $20,000 on non value domains with my credit card. I didn't sell one! They were all worthless.

My advice is to still work with what you have. If they turn out to be duds, you can at least say you tried your best trying to get rid of them.

I don't know what your domains are but what I do know is we only get better from making mistakes. Whether your domains were mistakes, is to be seen. Good luck!

 

[Name Trader]

Just to pick up on what sdsinc said. You would have been much better off buying 1 LLL.COM instead of these 250 domains. That way your renewals would be only <$10 instead of the $2-4000 its going to cost you come renewal time. Also, you'd be more sure to make a profit.