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How well do the Afternic ns3/ns4 sales lander pages convert?

Located in Domain Marketplace Reviews started by slobizman, Feb 21, 2019.

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  1. slobizman

    slobizman Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I always sell my names with reasonable BIN pricing, with no lesser minimum bid allowed. It's worked very, very well for me, for names priced between $750 - $10,000. I have most of the names resolving to a Sedo BIN landing page with no ads (which I want), and some forwarded to the Afternic sales page for the domain. (All my names are at Godaddy.) Sedo is giving me way to many bogus "sales" that aren't real and get canceled, so I looking at pointing more names to Afternic, which I'm happy with (sales never fall through).

    However, Afternic/Godaddy is telling me that their research shows that they sell significantly more names for people who use their nameservers ns3.afternic.com and ns4.afternic.com which lands on a "price request" page that looks like the image I've included at the bottom of this post.

    Along with using these nameservers, they also want me to create a minimum bid amount, reserve price and floor price.

    I could see how this might work better for names that domainers price unrealistically high (most). But for names like mine that are mostly priced between $750 - $5,000, I really question this. Because, 1) once people start bidding at a lower price, it's difficult to get them up more than halfway to the full BIN price, 2) having to put your phone number in the form is off-putting (to me at least), and 3) maybe it's just me, but when I see a page like this I think the price is going to be very high since they won't show it.

    I might just try it with the hundred or so names that I do have priced higher than $5,000 and see what happens.

    But I'd love to hear the opinions of others here on this subject? Do these "request price" pages work better than BIN pages?

    FYI: they will not entertain the idea of creating a landing page that shows the BIN price on it. I have to do a Forward to the afternic BIN page, which is a pain when you have a lot of names. Plus, even if the minimum bid is equal to the BIN price, they insist on showing the minimum bid field still, which looks odd.
     

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  2. slobizman

    slobizman Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Ha! As I was writing that, Sedo just emailed me "We are pleased to inform you that a buyer has accepted your fixed price offer for your domain botwatch.com for 888 USD!" That's what I love about fixed price sales, no negotiations, I just get emails that I've made a sale.
     
  3. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician VIP

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  4. barman

    barman Established Member

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    I've never used these pages but I imagine they convert really well because they're well designed. Easy lead form, nice big phone number, and big Godaddy logo (trust!)

    What do the ns1, ns2 pages look like at Afternic?

    The "floor price" is the lowest you're willing to take should Afternic negotiate with a buyer on your behalf. For example, your BIN is $5,000 and your floor is $3,800 - the agent could sell the name $3,800 without contacting you for approval. Obviously they will try to get max $ but some a lot of times sales happen in the spur of the moment and closing the deal is the most important thing.
     
  5. slobizman

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    I’ve got a new account at undeveloped and am going to try pointing a few hundred $1,000-5,000 names with them and test them out.
     
  6. slobizman

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    I agree having the Godaddy name on the page is very positive, as I tend to sell to end users who are leery enough about this whole domain business, and likely the only name they recognize of all the players is Godaddy. I have had many people contact me directly and ask me “who is this Sedo company, can I trust them?”

    I am not sure about ns1 and ns2, I believe it’s a typical parked page with ads.
     
  7. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP Trusted Blogger

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    Clearly Sedo, Undeveloped and Afternic all take rather different approaches to landing pages. As a consumer (for other prducts) I like clean, informative pages that don't push me to telephone someone for more information. The Afternic pages have typically bothered me for that reason.I do agree that switching to show the GoDaddy logo is a big plus.

    However, after hearing Paul Nick's keynote at NamesCon (which was mainly on numbers and models but yes did softly push some Afternic features) I do see that many end users are not like me and they do want to talk to a person, and want a representative active 24x7 and who speaks their language. That is the advantage that the Sedo and Afternic landers have. I still prefer the ones at Undeveloped, but don't know if I am letting personal feeling sway me too much. Most of mine I have pointed at Undeveloped currently.

    A good question and look forward to hearing responses from those who have done long term trials of all three.

    Bob
     
  8. poweredbyme

    poweredbyme Content is king VIP

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    I fully agree with you and wrote the same things here. BIN is the best for the domains under 10k.
    I too like making sales with no negotiations. If I will negotiate I don't need a marketplace, don't need to pay 20% commission.

    "Make offer" may be better for premium domains only. Someone may make a very high offer than you expect even though the odds are very low. But it may be worth to experience.

    Stick to BIN and never drop your prices. BIN outperforms "make offer" most of the time.
    Don't focus on landing page design differences. As long as the landing page is fully functional, its design is unimportant.
     
  9. Nikhil Jain

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    Anybody using the ns3 and ns4 landers yet, and can share their experience?
     
  10. slobizman

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    It's been roughly six months in my trial of the Afternic ns3/ns4 landers. ZERO leads. Zero. Meanwhile, my other Afternic BIN landers are selling names. And my Undeveloped landers are selling names.

    I don't understand why Godaddy pushes these. BIN landers are the absolute best.
     
  11. Nikhil Jain

    Nikhil Jain Top Member VIP

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    Thanks for sharing the results.

    I believe the BIN landers have been achieved by forwarding the domains to the offer page?
     
  12. slobizman

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    Yes. I forward to a URL in this format:
    https://www.afternic.com/domain/yourname.com
     
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2019
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    Very much agreed. BIN landers are preferred.
    I set all my GD domains to ns3.afternic.com and ns4.afternic.com and list on Afternic with BIN (still not able to list from domain manager within GD). One thing good about it is that the domains are often immediately available on Godaddy for purchase.
     
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2019
  15. Recons.Com

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    Wasn't there a way to put value that would just replace the last part by actual domain? Then you would not have to do it one by one
     
  16. Nikhil Jain

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    Again, the main issue with these NS is that these do not offer BIN option. I'm sure many of us would be open to use these NS provided Afternic brings in the BIN option on these landers.
     
  17. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician VIP

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    <?php
    preg_match('/[^.]+\.[^.]+$/', $_SERVER["HTTP_HOST"],$match);
    $localhost = $_SERVER["HTTP_HOST"];
    $domain= $match[0];


    $afternicurl ="http://www.afternic.com/domain/";
    $afternicurl .=$domain;
    header("Location: $afternicurl");
    ?>
     
  18. slobizman

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    I no longer point any of my names to Afternic. I have my names listed there, and I still sell many Godaddy-registered names (all my names are there) through Afternic (via Godaddy and partners as people try to register and get the upsell); however, I now point all my names to DAN.com (previously Undeveloped.com) BIN pages--very happy with this.
     
  19. marcreative

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    did ever happen to you, time when u sold domain both through dan and afternic, if that happen whats the solution, could you share about it? Thank you
     
  20. Soofi

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    they arent worth anything tbh.
     
  21. slobizman

    slobizman Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I have not yet had that problem with Afternic/DAN, because I have much less time with DAN than had with Sedo. Prior to pointing to DAN, I was pointing to SEDO BIN pages. During that time, yes, I had this happen several times. I had to tell Sedo, sorry, but a buyer nearly simultaneously purchased the name at Afternic and it's been transferred already. They understood, although I'm sure they weren't happy about it. The folks at DAN seem like they would understand too.

    To attempt to alleviate this in the future, upon receiving notice from one of the brokers that a name has sold, I immediately go to the other two brokers and remove the names from my portfolio.
     
  22. DomainBarracksRob

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    I kept getting and error on my Godaddy account today when trying to set these NS

    To set this lander as our dns

    We just use :

    Ns3.afternic.com
    Ns4.afternic.com

    Correct ?

    My account kept saying contact support for error at godaddy, would not let me change ?
     
  23. manpreet

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    I have always used ns1 and ns2 for Afternic parking for sale page, not sure about ns3 and ns4. But I have seen more Afternic responses from domains which are rather not parked at Afternic.
     
  24. esdiel

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    I started trying these landers out last week.

    The lack of BIN is questionable but I do like the lander, especially with the Godaddy logo. I feel like this set up could help close sales in some instances, especially where the person is unfamiliar with domains and would prefer calling in and have Godaddy guide them. Also, those who understand domains well should know that could always search for your domain on godaddy/afternic to see the BIN price (if you have one set).

    Anyway, it's at least a different approach/strategy compared to Sedo/Dan/Uniregistry etc. Whether it's more effective is the real question. I think it could be just because more people are actually familiar with Godaddy (i.e. trust factor).

    One thing I've come to learn is that "page visits" don't register on afternic's parking reports when using these nameservers, which is quite disappointing. It seems like afternic only counts page visits if you use their ns1 and ns2 nameservers (that come with ads).

    I would be willing to try these landers out for much longer if i could actually see the page visits/traffic.
     
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2019
  25. Recons.Com

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    I don't mean some php code. There was a URL code where it would say something like godaddy.com/domain-for-sale/<domainname> and you could bulk insert this forwarder to all your domains and they would point to their corresponding page with BIN price. Then something happened along the way and all those URLs broke and I discovered by accident that they all lead to "page not found". So I removed all that forwarding.

    @Joe Styler is there a way to bring this function back?
     

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