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How to Snatch an Expering Domains !!!

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How a domain expires

Contrary to popular belief, domains do not expire when they say they do. If the owner of a domain does not renew by the expiration date of the domain, the domain goes into “expired” status. For 40 days, the domain is in a grace period where all services are shut off, but the domain owner may still renew the domain for a standard renewal fee. If a domain enters this period, it is a good first indicator that it may not be renewed, but since the owner can re-register without penalty, it can also just be a sign of laziness or procrastination.

After 40 days are up, the domain’s status changes to “redemption period”. During this phase, all WhoIs information begins disappearing, and more importantly, it now costs the owner an additional fee to re-activate and re-register the domain. The fee is currently around $100, depending on your registrar. When a domain enters its redemption period, it’s a good bet the owner has decided not to renew.

Finally, after the redemption period, the domain’s status will change to “locked” as it enters the deletion phase. The deletion phase is 5 days long, and on the last day between 11am and 2pm Pacific time, the name will officially drop from the ICANN database and will be available for registration by anybody.

The entire process ends exactly 75 days after the listed expiration date.

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Landing your domain

So if domains are available to the general public 75 days after they expire, how do you know your GoDaddy backorder isn’t one of many other backorders from other people using other services? The answer is, you don’t.

And thus begins the cloak-and-dagger game of “getting in on The Drop”.

“The Drop” is the unpredictable three hour period of time in which the domain is deleted from VeriSign’s database and released back into the ecosystem.

I briefly thought about trying to beat GoDaddy to the punch by manually registering my domain during the drop process, but I quickly found out that there are no fewer than three major services which specialize in pounding away on VeriSign’s servers during the drop period. With their considerable resources and my measly Powerbook, there was no way I could compete on their level.

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The three servicesSnapnames.com, Enom.com, and Pool.com — all operate in a similar manner. They use a network of registrars to hit the Verisign servers at frequent intervals (but not too frequent to get banned) and snatch as many requested names as possible. If you don’t get your name, you don’t pay. But that’s where the three services begin to differ.

Snapnames.com

Snapnames.com (the exclusive partner of Network Solutions) charges you $60 for your domain unless there are multiple suitors, at which point there is an open bid auction between suitors. Seems fair enough. Snapnames is a bit of a newcomer to the game, but with their Network Solutions affiliation, they are said to be improving their success rates.

Enom.com

Enom had reportedly been improving their “Club Drop” service for a year or two and it was now considered one of the top three. Their fee was only $30.

Here’s where it starts to get sketchy though.

Enom claims that the higher your bid is (beyond the $30), the more “resources” they will dedicate to grabbing the domain.


Pool.com

Pool.com is the Scott Boras of domain name grabbing — the brilliant, yet conniving agent that players (domains) love and team owners (prospective domain buyers) hate. Pool plays off the power of the unknown in such a fiendishly clever way that you don’t know whether to hug them or kill them. Here’s how it works:

Pool is the #1 company around as far as number of servers and success rates go. You place your original bid for $60 and if Pool.com grabs your name for you, they send you an e-mail telling you they’ve been successful and that you’ve now entered “Phase 1” of the two-phase auction system. This is the case whether or not you are the only bidder! Pool.com doesn’t even reveal how many bidders there are.

Then, in a Boras-like move of diabolical genius, Pool.com informs you that you have three days to place a new sealed bid. If the bid is either one of the top two bids or within 30% of the top bid, you move on to a one-day open bid auction (the “challenger” auction) for final control of the domain.

Grrrrreat.

Note: One other thing I forgot to mention is that before the name dropped, I grabbed all .net, .org, and .info variants (all were available) in order to have more leverage over other buyers.

Lessons from The Drop

Hopefully this article helps you in your own quest for a domain that may be expiring. My best advice is that if your interest in a domain name is only lukewarm, go ahead and use a basic service like GoDaddy, but if you really don’t want to let one get away, you must enlist the services of the big three: Snapnames, Enom, and Pool. It’s anybody’s guess what the final price will be, but by getting all the best agents out there working for you, you ensure at least being in the game.

Article source : http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/03/how-to-snatch-an-expiring-domain
 
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.US domains.US domains
Im sorry for spammin bu Isn't this from redhotdomainnames/something
 
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Thank you, I learned not to use Godaddy's backorder anymore. :hehe:

I believe this isn't spam if its useful?
 
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Why would this be Spam? I don't see any referral links or "ads"? I think this is a good explanation of how (part of) the process works. Thanks for the info. (Rep added)
:D :hi:
 
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Thanks for ur support..mrfike

This is not a spam i think it very important to someone who really need this to know.
 
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Has anyone here successfully used pc software to grab a domain rather than a service? I grabbed a few recently through enom and pool...payed quite a bit for them.
 
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I think pool doesnt use that 1st/2nd phase anymore. Its just one time 72 hours bidding process.
 
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tekz999 said:
I think pool doesnt use that 1st/2nd phase anymore. Its just one time 72 hours bidding process.
Yeppers...got a few that way :)
 
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Thanks for this article!!
 
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"Expering" Did you just say that in an inspector clouseau voice :lol:
 
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o thank you very much for this info..

it is useful ... i alwayz have that question :)

i am not going to backorder any domain now :)
 
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Rats! I've been beaten to it. :D

Still, great article, especially when Chris Ambler from Enom chipped in.
 
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So godaddy backorders are crap? Has anyone has success in getting one? What was the overture if you did? Thanks.
 
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Well i dont know but hope u will get ur ans in the next post !!!!
 
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Thanks for the knowlegable info :)
 
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ZestNetwork said:
Thank you, I learned not to use Godaddy's backorder anymore. :hehe:

I believe this isn't spam if its useful?

Well I personally got 2 .us caught successfully godaddy, while RF caught 5 or 6 .org for me. THe successful rate is so far... less than 10% for GD and 20% for RF.

Might be I am just unlucky (the names are not very high popularity tho)
 
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Thanks AmD950 !!!
 
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jeet_020 said:
Thanks AmD950 !!!
Actually people here said Godaddy is good at catching .us and .biz (or .us only?)
Maybe you can try to search the old posts.
 
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Hmm, I still think go daddy is good at it :P
 
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