How to share control of a domain

[krx]

I am selling a domain on a rent-to-own basis and one question is how to set up the contacts so that they have control of DNS, etc, but I don't lose control of ownership. Would I list myself as admin contact and list them as tech contact? Haven't done this before so I'm not quite sure...

 

[lothos]

keep the contacts in your name until it's paid off, and point the nameserver to wherever they'd like.

 

[Fonzie]

Contract.
They get the nameservers until the name is paid off (or, if you're leasing, for the duration of the lease).

You retain control of the domain itself.

If you want to get persnickety, you can put something in the whois details that denotes you're the lessor, or that the domain is under contract.

One of our larger apps, I lease back the domain for $1 a year to the partnership. The terms are casual enough, the whois information is completely in the name of the partnership but my contractual protections are there behind the scenes and my relationship to the partnership is as a partner whereas your relationship with them- as the domain seller/lessor- is more adversarial, requiring more robust CYA protections.

Tactically speaking, it's usually better to keep segregated domain ownership as quiet as possible, as it's a hugely lucrative landmine should the enterprise get sold and the buyers weren't diligent enough to realize the domain didn't come with the sale. You won't wind up holding all the cards, but you'll have three quarters of the deck.

 

[krx]

Contract.
They get the nameservers until the name is paid off (or, if you're leasing, for the duration of the lease).

You retain control of the domain itself.

That's the part I'm trying to figure out. How do they get control of nameservers while I retain control of the domain itself?

 

[utomo]

Name server change is not happened many times.
1st at the beginning.
or when there is problems on the hosting
or when you rent it to somebody else.
I suggest you help it. instead of giving the control to them.
(if there is registrar which support the domain control sharing functions I think it will be good).
so, we are the owner keep the all domain control.
our technical support people handle the DNS and other control


What I think we need to think when give our domain to renter
a. if the use for business and then cheat their customer
b. If they use it for spam or other illegal things
c. If it is banned by google
and others

any opinion ?

 

[Fonzie]

That's the part I'm trying to figure out. How do they get control of nameservers while I retain control of the domain itself?

They don't control the nameservers, you do but if you're leasing to them, you're contractually obligated to direct those nameservers to wherever they say.

If you want it in "Dick and Jane" terms, it would go a little something like this.

- Dick has a domain name that Jane wants.
- Dick and Jane agree on a contract.
- Jane will lease the domain from Dick.
- Dick will retain control of the domain and point the nameservers of that domain wherever Jane directs him to, since that's what the lease agreement says.

 

[dompro]

a) set the nameservers to the ones they want e.g some hosting provider, you will have to change them again if they would want to change it
b) use 3rd party dns where they would be able to change the dns records as they want

You can list them as contacts (address/phone) in whois while still keeping your email address. Or use whois privacy so it does not matter.

I agree with Utomo there are lots of complications if they abuse your domain and give it back to you.

 

[Kate]

Some registrars like Fabulous have the possibility of subaccounts with limited rights over the domain.

So they don't have to ask you if they need to change name servers. In practice such changes would be infrequent.

 

[krx]

Some registrars like Fabulous have the possibility of subaccounts with limited rights over the domain.

So they don't have to ask you if they need to change name servers. In practice such changes would be infrequent.

This may be the answer. My rep at godaddy just forwarded this link, describing how to do it:

http://support.godaddy.com/help/art...-name-account-administrators?pc_split_value=2

 

[lothos]

Some registrars like Fabulous have the possibility of subaccounts with limited rights over the domain.

So they don't have to ask you if they need to change name servers. In practice such changes would be infrequent.

namecheap lets you do that as well.

 

[jyotsna01]

hey frmd i will suggest you to remain as teh admin..
and keep the contact at you own name..!!