strategy How to Find Potential End Users?

[shilmy]

Hi,

Do any of you has regularly sell your domain to end users? If so, do you mind share with me in this thread on how find potential end users for your domain?

Regards,
Sjarief

 

[Pred]

I recently had a similar experience with an L-L-L .com. He though it was the LLL and interested when I told him the asking price was $800. Until he realized it was the L-L-L version (which was the acronym of his company). I got quite a chuckle out of that one, he was still balking at the price of what he thought was an LLL .com for $800, HA!

LOL
:blink:

 

[DNK.it]

Any advice of what could have been said or done?

Have you tried to contact these companies?

usa-llc.com
unitedsourcing.us
unitedsourcing.net
united-source.com

 

[JoshuaPz]

I second Ripley's earlier point. Ask the end-user prospect if they'd like your domain name "for use with" their site. Stay away from any negative language at all, such as that implying their website's URL is obfuscated, or even that your domain might be a more memorable alternative. Remember that when your end-user candidates read your pitches and hear your voice on the phone, the left of their brains are assessing the domain's quality/relevance while the right half is assessing YOU. It's incumbent on you to sound pleasant and, more importantly, comfortable. Do everything in your power to help the end-user feel important. I've found the statement

"I'm offering you [domain].com for use with your [domain].net because I checked out x, y, and z on your site, which really touched me because of [relevant point from my background], and I'd love to help add value to your organization."

extraordinarily effective, more so than

"I'm offering you [domain].com for use with your [domain].net because it will [solidify your brand, prove more typo-proof, etc.]"

Give it a shot one time, particularly if you have your end-user client on the phone. You'll be pleasantly surprised at the results.

 

[Chef Patrick]

wow great post, i will definitely implement some of these practices asap.

 

[bgmv]

Have any of you had success with selling cctld's or lower end tld's? Do companies even respond to offering a (.cc or .ws) or even .tv? Just wondering because there are a few I have that are very very brandable but are in .cc or .tv. Thanks ahead.

 

[Nattydomain]

Have any of you had success with selling cctld's or lower end tld's? Do companies even respond to offering a (.cc or .ws) or even .tv? Just wondering because there are a few I have that are very very brandable but are in .cc or .tv. Thanks ahead.

I just sent some emails today for a .tv so we will see how it goes..so far no responses.....been really slow this week with just 1 repsones since Sunday...not looking good

 

[kjwalton]

Have any of you had success with selling cctld's or lower end tld's? Do companies even respond to offering a (.cc or .ws) or even .tv? Just wondering because there are a few I have that are very very brandable but are in .cc or .tv. Thanks ahead.

Yes, I'm in the process of negotiating a .tv domain sale right now. The end user responded to my email with an offer of low XXX, but i'm going to try to negotiate up to mid XXX.

 

[bgmv]

I just sent some emails today for a .tv so we will see how it goes..so far no responses.....been really slow this week with just 1 repsones since Sunday...not looking good

Yeah, I haven't got any response from the ones I sent out yesterday, but I gave them till Thursday. Also what do you guys think of these as far as potential end users go : kayaking dot cc + augmentation dot tv .

Yes, I'm in the process of negotiating a .tv domain sale right now. The end user responded to my email with an offer of low XXX, but i'm going to try to negotiate up to mid XXX.

does the domain fit the extension or is it just a random generic.tv

 

[JoshuaPz]

Sold a pair of .net names a while back -- DamnGood.net for $100 and MilitarySpouse.net for $300 -- without too much trouble. Haven't bought a single .tv or, until last week, a .cc. I can't imagine low-end extension names selling for much to end-users unless we're talking top-notch, relevant, generic keywords (headphones.tv, photos.cc, girls.ws, and the like).

 

[InvisionTech]

Yes, absolutely. Just make sure you present a professional image. Use nice business stationery/letterhead. It's not just 42 cents though... because you may have to mail 10, 20, 50, even 100 or more to find a buyer. Mention that you will be contacting their competitors as well, but wanted to give them a fair chance first. Make sure you do your research first to get the person's name in charge of such decisions.

True, thank you.

I sent about 15 or 16 emails last night and got 4 replies back today, of course all of them not interested yet.

I am preparing snail mail campaign to end users who do not have web presence at all other than listings in directories, etc.

We will see how it goes since this is the first time I am taking up on a task like this.

 

[Jingles]

Here's something I've been wondering about, for those of you who do the really fast flips of your names, how do you convince the endusers to sign up with the registrar your name is registered at.

I've already started sending out emails for a name I won at TDNAM and got control of just yesterday. That means I'm not going to be able to transfer that name anywhere other than Godaddy for the next 60 days. So if I get any replies of interest, how do I explain that to the endusers without sounding like I'm just out to get people to sign up with Godaddy?

 

[JoshuaPz]

This hasn't been an issue for any of the 35 end-user sales I've made to date. I wouldn't even mention anything about 60 day GoDaddy/ICANN no-transfer windows. Just instruct the end-user to sign up for a GoDaddy account, explaining the domain's registered there and that by performing an intra-registrar push rather than inter-registrar transfer, you're sparing that user the standard $10-$25 transfer fee. Conclude writing that by simply configuring the domain's nameservers via GoDaddy to match their favorite host's and then setting the domain to auto-renew, they can manage content in exactly the same way they're accustomed to and will never need to log into GoDaddy again.

Here's something I've been wondering about, for those of you who do the really fast flips of your names, how do you convince the endusers to sign up with the registrar your name is registered at.

I've already started sending out emails for a name I won at TDNAM and got control of just yesterday. That means I'm not going to be able to transfer that name anywhere other than Godaddy for the next 60 days. So if I get any replies of interest, how do I explain that to the endusers without sounding like I'm just out to get people to sign up with Godaddy?

 

[henniemeijer]

Advising them to set up an account at the same registrar to save the 10-25 transfer fee is not right.
Customers will buy the domain in order to keep it for more than 1 year, so it is not saving them any money as they get something in return.
Apart from misinforming them, you may make a bad impression as well in case the customers are in some way up to date with the procedure.
Also some customers will do some research in the domain and see the domain has been in your posession for less than 60 days. Any form of lying or misleading is not correct ethically and may even backfire on you.

Just wait 45 days after registering a domain name before you start to try selling domains is what I would do and if you do not wait not customers are seriously interested give them the options of either having them open up an account at the same registrar or keep an option on the domain till the 60 day period is over and the reason for it.
I know I do not like to be "forced" to open up an account(always a hassle) because someone sells a domain to me and does not inform me properly.

Maybe you miss a sale by being open about it, but long term being honest and straightforward may make you feel better and get you satisfied customers who may buy more often from you.

 

[JoshuaPz]

Maybe the reality depends on the size of the companies you're dealing with. Like I said, the 35 end-users I've sold to have not openly expressed any qualms against signing up for an account at an alternate registrar, but this is mostly likely the case because all these end-users have been small groups earning 200K in annual capital or less (which I believe are the entities Amy is targeting as well). Since my typical sale rings up around $300, sparing that end-user a $10-$25 transfer fee (~5% of sale value) does hold significance in their eyes. Small customers seem to care far more that they're not switching hosts, and they don't need to so long as they update the nameservers of their new domain accordingly.

In pitching to end-users, I often find myself walking a delicate line between forthrightness and elegance. Sure, I could explain to them up-front that they'll need to spend an extra 5 minutes opening up an account at another registrar, but if you overwhelm your end-users with details such as these in your first 2-3 e-mail exchanges with them (unless they specifically ask where the domain's registered), they tend to set your e-mails aside for later and never get around to addressing them. As I've already explained, I sell about a third of the domains I drop-catch within 2 weeks via my current strategy, so I'd like to think I'm doing something right.

 

[Jingles]

Thank you both Joshua and henniemeijer for your replies. You both make very good points, personally I don't see Joshua's way as being misleading or lying, and I don't really see how an enduser can be FORCED into anything, but thats just me. Thanks again

 

[Gene]

Another way to handle this is to create a new account yourself at the current registrar. Then simply give the buyer the username and password. They can then transfer when the time is right.

 

[JoshuaPz]

I like that idea -- that way you could take care of accepting the push + configuring nameservers/forwarding for the end-user. Then all you need to do is provide them the username & password for that account, which they probably won't even need since they could manage the domain's content through their hosting service.

Another way to handle this is to create a new account yourself at the current registrar. Then simply give the buyer the username and password. They can then transfer when the time is right.

 

[DNK.it]

Another way to handle this is to create a new account yourself at the current registrar. Then simply give the buyer the username and password. They can then transfer when the time is right.

That is the fastest way, I use to do it when the buyer don't have an account at that registrar. If you create a new account at Dynadot don't forget to take note of the bithday date, if you loose it you need to send a copy of personal document to Dynadot for the restore

 

[Nattydomain]

Help Needed!!!

Ok, well like writers have writers block, I'm having Domainers block. I have a domain im trying to sell to endusers via my email script that I hve been doing for the past month. This domain is a City+101 .com domain.

What my question is WHO should I be pitching to. So far I have a list of the city domains already developed by either the chamber of commerce, visitiors buereu, and other city related sites for tourism. Do I also pitch this to ANY domain that has the city in the domain name and their site has something to do with the city even if its not travel or tourism related?

I feel if I send it to say (example only) Chicagoeatery.com that by sending it t othem I will be wasting my time. My domain is more like an educational or a FAQ style name being with the city101.com

So who should I pitch to? Everyone in that city? Travel related only? A dry wall company with the city name it their domain? Some say they send out over 100 emails but hell I cant find 100 websites that this domian would be a good fit for.

Also on a side note, has anyone sold a .com to a .org owner .Org as in a real non profit company

 

[StrictlyNames]

http://www.google.com/search?source...rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-42,GGLJ:en&q=inurl:101.com

Try this.