strategy How to Find Potential End Users?

[shilmy]

Hi,

Do any of you has regularly sell your domain to end users? If so, do you mind share with me in this thread on how find potential end users for your domain?

Regards,
Sjarief

 

[bgmv]

Good luck with your sales.....As far as tweaking what I learned here this is my schedule for sending out emails...again this is what I do so you must do what works around you.

All times are MST as I live in Arizona

Sunday Night 8-9pm
Monday - Thursday 5-6am
Friday and Saturday I dont send any....

If I see that a email is based out of the US then I may wait until Later in the night due to it beign about a 8-12 hour time diffrence so when I send at night they recieve during early business hours. Had a reply this morning for 1 domain but they advised are not buying domians now but still wanted to know my asking price....Which says to me "if your domain is cheap sure I will buy it" Hit them with $200 so we will see

Thanks for the time schedule natty! I just moved to California so I always forget about the three hour difference. I have bought a few dropped domains today with some nice potential.

WHen you guys buy dropped domains what is a good # of endusers to solidify the purchase? Right now if I see more than 10 really good potential I am buying.

 

[JoshuaPz]

Depends. Are they a well-established, proven, successful company? Do they publish or advertise their annual revenue anywhere, and is it a multi-million dollar figure? Does the domain unequivocally embody that company's core mission, or is the name only tangential to their objective?

My two biggest domain sales to date fulfilled two of these three in the affirmative, and those domains went for $1400 and $800, respectively. If the answer to ALL three questions is definitively yes, you could shoot for a mid-$XXXX price.

Thanks for the time schedule natty! I just moved to California so I always forget about the three hour difference. I have bought a few dropped domains today with some nice potential.

WHen you guys buy dropped domains what is a good # of endusers to solidify the purchase? Right now if I see more than 10 really good potential I am buying.

The answer to that question will solidify with experience.

There are actually times that I backorder a domain I have only one 90%-certain major prospect for. A personal example from a few weeks back is FilterMagazine.com. The magazine's previous site, Filter-Mag.com, received over 20,000 monthly hits according to compete.com; furthermore, the mag's existing domain name was crappy, and mine was precisely the name of their magazine. I GD-backordered FilterMagazine.com, caught it, and sold those folks my domain for $500. Piece of cake.

On the other hand, in many instances I have mistakenly backordered a domain I discerned 50 "maybe" candidates for, one recent example being Panama-Realty.com. I thought it would be a breeze to sell -- wouldn't you? I pitched to all 50 candidates and received NOT ONE response asking for price.

When it comes to deciding whether to backorder a domain based on the magnitude it targets candidates, I recommend opting for quality over quantity.

 

[Nattydomain]

When I buy drops there are certain factors I look for. Mostly geo related and product. When I hunt for my prospects I do a google search to see how many websites have THAT keyword in the domain name itself. its easy to find a TON that have the keyword somewhere on their website BUT think its a much easier sell if the keyword itself is in the domain name.

Also a question for anyone on the board. I have a .com that I got several months ona drop and the .net version is a company...has had the domain since 2003 and the website is on teh crappy side. How shold I approach them to have the .com as their business is waste removal and not sure if there tech savy based on their 1 page website?

 

[JoshuaPz]

When I buy drops there are certain factors I look for. Mostly geo related and product. When I hunt for my prospects I do a google search to see how many websites have THAT keyword in the domain name itself. its easy to find a TON that have the keyword somewhere on their website BUT think its a much easier sell if the keyword itself is in the domain name.

Also a question for anyone on the board. I have a .com that I got several months ona drop and the .net version is a company...has had the domain since 2003 and the website is on teh crappy side. How shold I approach them to have the .com as their business is waste removal and not sure if there tech savy based on their 1 page website?

I'd approach them with the same generic e-mail pitch you've always used. I often like selling to small, family-run businesses because they usually place contact information for specific individuals on their website. Those contacts will typically respond quickly and, sometimes, even at ungodly hours.

Offer the name for a modest price ($100-$200) and explain that when someone is told to point their browser to a [domain].net, that viewer very often goes to the [domain].com by mistake since .com names are by far the most popular and well-advertised genre. Hence, by not possessing the .com name, the company may be losing out on a substantial chunk of business via Internet.

 

[bgmv]

Just came to a sale price with that one responder I had...mid $XXX. Just have to wait for all the escrow + confrimation :sold:

 

[DNK.it]

Just came to a sale price with that one responder I had...mid $XXX. Just have to wait for all the escrow + confrimation :sold:

Congratulation Ben!

Generally how many emails do you need guys to make a deal? My range are from 20 to 100 emails for domain name

 

[Nattydomain]

Just came to a sale price with that one responder I had...mid $XXX. Just have to wait for all the escrow + confrimation :sold:

Feels good dont it!

Just came to a sale price with that one responder I had...mid $XXX. Just have to wait for all the escrow + confrimation :sold:

Congratulation Ben!

Generally how many emails do you need guys to make a deal? My range are from 20 to 100 emails for domain name

I try to do a full page which is 25 but im starting to think maybe I need more to cover the ones who wont respond. Often times the right domain I feel is for a big multi-million dollar company like some of the food domains I own but hell good luck on getting the marketing directors email. This is my dilema (sp) right now...the amount of emails to send to for 1 domain. Let me share one of my domains and maybe yo uall could help.

The domain is a bbq geo domain. Now it comes up with a few wesbites that have both the city and the word bbq in it those are my first choice. Then it would be reg bbq companies in that city but who dont have the city in the domain name. Then there is the bbq companies themselves the bbq sauce companies, meat companies etc...what would you do?

 

[bgmv]

Congratulation Ben!

Generally how many emails do you need guys to make a deal? My range are from 20 to 100 emails for domain name

In this case I owned the singular .net + .info ($7 total) and sent 3 emails: singular.com, plural.com and plural.net

Once I get payment I will list the names, I just hand reg'd them 2 weeks ago, I was surprised they werent reg'd.

I have been trying out other names like: bluffs :; info and hve sent out about 20 emails but have recieved no response thus far.

Has anyone had luck with LLLL.com/.net? I have alot of them and was wondering if anyone had any good success rates with them?

 

[DNK.it]

The domain is a bbq geo domain. Now it comes up with a few wesbites that have both the city and the word bbq in it those are my first choice. Then it would be reg bbq companies in that city but who dont have the city in the domain name. Then there is the bbq companies themselves the bbq sauce companies, meat companies etc...what would you do?

I would send an email to all of them

Has anyone had luck with LLLL.com/.net? I have alot of them and was wondering if anyone had any good success rates with them?

The problem with short domains is that you need to know exactly what could be the meaning of the acronym. It's really hard to find domain in this form: SomeAcronymGoHere.com to offer your short domain... this is the only problem I've found with this niche, but we all know there are plenty of company with looong domains that would want a short domain for their company website
The problem is to find them :P

Btw I prefer LLLL.com/net/org with "i" at the end, so you can search "LLL" Int. on Google

 

[ripley]

Well, I guess this is a dubious milestone -- got my first nasty email response today, taking aim at domainers in general as "con men" who need to go "get a job" and talking about all the domains he had purchased way back when that he doesn't use. (Made me wonder why, then, his domain was ABZ-INDUSTRY.COM....)

It offended me at first, then made me laugh. It was literally a several-paragraph email; why waste your time? *delete*

ripley.

 

[Nattydomain]

Well, I guess this is a dubious milestone -- got my first nasty email response today, taking aim at domainers in general as "con men" who need to go "get a job" and talking about all the domains he had purchased way back when that he doesn't use. (Made me wonder why, then, his domain was ABZ-INDUSTRY.COM....)

It offended me at first, then made me laugh. It was literally a several-paragraph email; why waste your time? *delete*

ripley.

I only got those from the prolife crowd when trying to sell a prolife domain :hehe:

 

[JoshuaPz]

One of my prospects, the head of an IT consulting firm, responded to my pitch that she was interested in my domain, then a few days later spat back she was "disgusted" I conned her by registering a domain and trying to sell her it just a few days later (in reality, the domain was 5 years old, but it dropped and so the creation date reset). She then proceeded to twitter many of her friends that I tried to "shake [her] down", and unfortunately Google picked up on those twitters and they came up on the first page of matches upon a search for my name. Not surprisingly, my sales dropped off precipitously for the next few days. A week ago the twitters all mysteriously disappeared from Google, and BAM, in flew the sales again.

My only other truly acerbic response was "you are a parasite", from a certified female veterinarian.

These observations have made me consider (jokingly):
1. Using a fake name when sending out e-mails
2. Not selling to women [ EDIT: meant in the most facetious and endearing possible way. Having gone to college directly across the street from Barnard, I'm about as feminist as they get ]

Well, I guess this is a dubious milestone -- got my first nasty email response today, taking aim at domainers in general as "con men" who need to go "get a job" and talking about all the domains he had purchased way back when that he doesn't use. (Made me wonder why, then, his domain was ABZ-INDUSTRY.COM....)

It offended me at first, then made me laugh. It was literally a several-paragraph email; why waste your time? *delete*

ripley.

 

[ripley]

People take things way too far....

ripley. (a woman!)

 

[bgmv]

Wow, the audacity of some people. We are trying to help them out, ignorance is bliss.

On a better note, just got 1st response for bluff$ - responded with benefits of domain + low $XXX offer. Will see what happens. Buyer says not interested but whats your price?

Also bought a new domain here on NP that I think has alot of potential: (hands - free(net) I see alot of end users for this one. any thoughts?

 

[DNK.it]

Wow, the audacity of some people. We are trying to help them out, ignorance is bliss.

On a better note, just got 1st response for bluff$ - responded with benefits of domain + low $XXX offer. Will see what happens. Buyer says not interested but whats your price?

Also bought a new domain here on NP that I think has alot of potential: (hands - free(net) I see alot of end users for this one. any thoughts?

try to search on Google with this terms:

hands free
bluetooth hands free
car hands free
hands free kits
hands free headset
mobile hands free
hands free cell
hands free accessories
hands free headsets
hands free speaker
samsung hands free
sony ericsson hands free
bluetooth hands free headset
hands free car kits
hands free cell phones
hands free wireless
hands free trash can
hands free cellular
razr hands free
blue tooth hands free
hands free video
bluetooth hands free kits
hands free adapter
hands free set
hands free speakerphone
v3 hands free
belkin hands free
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hands free earpiece
hands free link
hands free adaptor
sony ericsson bluetooth hands free
hands free computer
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mr hands free
acura hands free link
hands free mouse
hands free accessory
hands free com
hands free cellphone
hands free crutch
blue tooth hands free kits
hands free cell phone device
hands free typing
hands free carkit
acura hands free
acura tl hands free
advantage hands free
bay area hands free
belkin bluetooth hands free
best hands free devices
bluetooth automotive music & hands free system t605
bluetooth hands free audio
bluetooth hands free auto
bluetooth hands free calling
bluetooth hands free cell phone
bluetooth hands free device
bluetooth hands free devices
bluetooth hands free profile
bluetooth hands free set
bluetooth hands free speakerphone
bluetooth hands free system
bluetooth wireless hands free
blutooth hands free
built in hands free
ca hands free
chp hands free
ego hands free
free hands free device
free hands free headset
get hands free
go hands free
gps hands free
gps with hands free
hands free auto
hands free company
hands free cradle
hands free device law
hands free ear piece
hands free earphone
hands free fine
hands free headphone
hands free headphones
hands free july 1
hands free mario
hands free music
hands free solutions
hands free stereo
hands free sunscreen
hands free technology
htc touch hands free
integrated hands free
iogear bluetooth hands free
jetware hands free
july 1st hands free
n73 hands free
parrot hands free device
supertooth hands free
the hands free company
u connect hands free
uconnect hands free
uconnect hands free communication
vr3 bluetooth hands free
vr3 hands free
vrbt300v bluetooth hands free
washington hands free
xtube hands free

and good luck

 

[Marck]

Well, I guess this is a dubious milestone -- got my first nasty email response today, taking aim at domainers in general as "con men" who need to go "get a job" and talking about all the domains he had purchased way back when that he doesn't use. (Made me wonder why, then, his domain was ABZ-INDUSTRY.COM....)

It offended me at first, then made me laugh. It was literally a several-paragraph email; why waste your time? *delete*

ripley.

It's pure jealousy.

 

[bgmv]

Thanks alot nullmind. That is quite a list. I tried leaving rep but I'm too fond of you my friend.

We're glad that you're fond of this member, but please give some rep points to some other members before giving it to nullmind again.

 

[bobbie]

I just made my first domain only sale ...

I bought this great domain chlamydiatesting dot com for $20

I googled chlamydia testing and started on page ten of the results and worked back to page one in sending out a sales letter to all who were legitimate online laboratory/medical sites.

I was offered $909 in US Dollars by a UK firm and gladly accepted the offer. Was just paid and transferred it over today.

I'm definitely going to be spending more time pitching to possible end users. I sent out a lot of emails and it took me several hours, but it was obviously time well spent.

 

[bgmv]

I just made my first domain only sale ...

I bought this great domain chlamydiatesting dot com for $20

I googled chlamydia testing and started on page ten of the results and worked back to page one in sending out a sales letter to all who were legitimate online laboratory/medical sites.

I was offered $909 in US Dollars by a UK firm and gladly accepted the offer. Was just paid and transferred it over today.

I'm definitely going to be spending more time pitching to possible end users. I sent out a lot of emails and it took me several hours, but it was obviously time well spent.

Awesome bobbie. Nice job :kickass:

 

[bobbie]

Thanks ... I know it won't happen every day, but for my first domain sale it's pretty exciting.