.tv Has the .tv market peaked?

[snoop]

I think we are seeing numerous signs to suggest the .tv may have peaked. From what I can see of it, it is fairly common for relaunched/new tlds prices peak to at the time of the major auction, when speculator interest is at its highest, and you have a whole lot of people in the market who wouldn’t normally dabble in it. I’m not sure .tv will be an exception to this rule.

The only thing to change is there is now a large number of names in the market with genuine, real value, much like other extensions. In other words it is now on a level playfield in that respect but it is still only that, "level", not tilted upwards. The exuberance has carried over into a lot of unrealistic viewpoints recently in my view,

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-People claim this market is just starting to warm up and will be much stronger in a year. (we’ve heard that before)
-The idea that many of these premiums will be developed (of course that will never happen and is setting the scene for later disappointment).
-People talking about “trying to keep the momentum going” and trying to organize group auctions (as though this is an engine that constantly needs top ups of fuel to prevent breakdown).
-People talking about future .tv millionaires.
-World economies seeing another shock spreading out from Europe.


If you look back a month ago that really was a market with a lot of positive elements rolled into, many factors combining that may never be repeated.

So I put this question out there, do you think the .tv market has peaked?

 

[ThreeD]

You are travelling a well worn path. Funnily enough there is a guy in the .co thread here making much the same argument.

Here's what you forget - TV is a GLOBAL term. As for CO? Short for company? Company = english term, not global. That's the difference. Everybody knows what TV is all about.

 

[snoop]

Here's what you forget - TV is a GLOBAL term. As for CO? Short for company? Company = english term, not global. That's the difference. Everybody knows what TV is all about.

I didn't say it was better or worse, I said there is people in the .co thread giving almost exactly the same argument. The same old stuff is trotted out about every new/alt extension, it isn't realistic.

 

[Jaco]

I think it's pretty damn hard to tell.
Obviously, the determinative factor here will be the shapes and colors taken by the upcoming confluence of computing and television that is likely to hit pretty hard over the next 5 years (I remember 10+ years ago, we jokingly called it the 'masterbox' - one glowing box in your living room that was your Television, Media Recorder/Player, Phone and Computer)

It's pretty hard to predict the ultimate magnitude of adoption that .tv sees from content producers. Right now, it's erratic. I do think that building conventional websites on .tv is kind of a joke and really, takes a dump in the underlying 'debate' that surrounds the TLD in the first place. At that point, if your goal is a hotel affiliate, splog or adsense gamer, you may as well be using a .info or a .ws. There is nothing in those sites that 'supports' the value drivers that are supposed to be inherent to .tv.

Either way, as with everything else, the future of the internet is not in the hands of domainers, contrary to what they've deluded themselves into believing. It's in the hands of the builders and producers. If they adopt .tv as a branding device, then some premier names will probably do quite well. Unlike .com, I think .tv is one where you have to be in the top 0.01% of quality in order to stand a chance.

 

[deb]

I think .tv is one where you have to be in the top 0.01% of quality in order to stand a chance.

Top 1% would be OK :tu:

 

[hullswingerscom]

maybe you can tell this if the premium what are left are just standing there,or slowly being picked up.

there lots of tv names to buy why would anyone pay a high price for a tv
the market flooded with tv names .
then there the other side were tv domain are price to high look at england.tv at auction latonia.

this made me think has the domainers of tv stoped the growth of dot tv.
buying prium for $500 and hoping they would be worth $50000,instead of the guy who loved the name and will do something with it.

what good has England.tv done for tv nothing it just been kicked around in the gutter.never a site showing the glory and history of ENGLAND the biggest little country in the world ,hellsbells there Content out there for a site.

iam no better with some of my names .
sorry for the ranting.

 

[deb]

snoop we are bidding on Possum.com : )

 

[snoop]

maybe you can tell this if the premium what are left are just standing there,or slowly being picked up.

there lots of tv names to buy why would anyone pay a high price for a tv
the market flooded with tv names .
then there the other side were tv domain are price to high look at england.tv at auction latonia.

this made me think has the domainers of tv stoped the growth of dot tv.
buying prium for $500 and hoping they would be worth $50000,instead of the guy who loved the name and will do something with it.

what good has England.tv done for tv nothing it just been kicked around in the gutter.a nice site showing the glory and history of ENGLAND the biggest little country in the world .

iam no better with some of my names .
sorry for the ranting.

This is all very true. But how can you expect anything different?

Domaining is about trading domains, parking domains and making half ass attempts at development. We actually work against development of extensions because we hold to speculate and we actually do nothing for the extension, we make money when other develop and make something popular. So in that theme, a domain auction landrush will create a market and bring money in for the registry, the cost of that is less people actually using those names.

 

[gr8trfoo]

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[discovernow]

The .tv market is "dead", but I hear .ws and .cc are the future. I really like .co because while posting drunk, I keep forgetting to hit the "m" on the keyboard when I go to "Snoop.co(M)

Google.ws, and Own/Oprah.cc is coming out, watch out for .tel and .pro, it's the next "hot thing".

Also, the spanish market is dead, they don't have credit cards to buy things. My wife is from Mexico and I just tore up her credit card. It's over, no more spanish market. I guess I will just have to give, Pornografia.tv to Ron Jeremy next time I see him at the Playboy Mansion in exchange for an hour with one of his "babes"

 

[snoop]

besides, only speculators (hello everyone) lump classes of domains together and think of them in terms of overall market conditions. every domain is a unique proposition. once you realize this you stop thinking about how to double, triple, dektuple your money and start considering how to use good names to create lasting wealth.

We are speculators, so not much point saying people should think how to use good domains to create lasting wealth, that is unless you own one .tv domain and have a solid plan, in which case you probably wouldn't be reading domain forums, nor would you need to be given any advice, if you have a solid plan. So in short it is 100% logical for domainers to think about overall market conditions.

That along with a constant whiny refrain of "why cant you just show us those domains?"

After nearly a year of asking I know that day will probably never come.

So whatever dude. Pretend all you want whatever you want but you lost more credibility than you can ever imagine. _\|/_

If you thought that you wouldn't have sent me a PM calling for "cooperation" and and end to "tussles" after I once again called you out publicaly over your inflated claims. Of course that didn't last long as you had another outburst about your boxing rings and crazy bets within weeks. Personally though I'm happy to keep debating on the issue until 2020 if need be.

 

[gr8trfoo]

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[snoop]

some .tv's will be bigger than some .com's, thats for sure already true and that measn more than weather or not there will ever be more .tv's in use than .com's or they will ever get more overall traffic. i'm not investing in .tv, i'm investing in .tv's.

That isn't the claim being made by The Dot Stop, what he said was, to quote

don't tell me this .TV extension won't be adopted as #1.

 

[gr8trfoo]

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[snoop]

i already showed one name for free.

What name?

 

[gr8trfoo]

If you thought that you wouldn't have sent me a PM calling for "cooperation" and and end to "tussles" after I once again called you out publicaly over your inflated claims. Of course that didn't last long as you had another outburst about your boxing rings and crazy bets within weeks. Personally though I'm happy to keep debating on the issue until 2020 if need be.

you missed the meaning of the message. i simply thought we should both try to tone down the overheated rhetoric as it was becoming toxic to the board.


the part about boxing rings is that here in the states its pretty much illegal to challange someone to a street fight. however a bout in the ring is another thing. i seriously would still like to go a few rounds with you. but talk about a day that will never happen. its easy to talk cybersmack knowing you cant really get socked in the eye over it.

 

[StargateCapital]

Looks like he posted:

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Nameboy.com.

RL

 

[gr8trfoo]

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[StargateCapital]

Anyways, regarding the thread topic... has .tv peaked, etc...

No, not in my opinion. Previous year was slow, no doubt, but it has picked up nicely.. has it actually peaked though? ... Nope.

RL

 

[snoop]

How is nameboy.com an example of a prime generic domain? It is probably a $100 name aside from the fact it has been developed since.

 

[gr8trfoo]

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[Animator]

I honestly believe in the sense of internet/TV the .TV extension will be the new .com...

I sense that the .TV will be the new .NET and .CO to be the new .COM

 

[snoop]

you challenged me on whether i was telling the truth about being a dropcatcher in 1999, not on whether i have a head for names that are valuable.

Let me refresh you memory about what you actually claimed,

Originally Posted by finster View Post
thats the same sort of timeline i had in mind when i bought my 1st .com's back when guys like you were dishing out the same brand of short sighted "advice" and there was well under 100 guys trying to catch netsol drops. a lot of great names, ones selling for xxx,xxx now were sold for xx back then.

So now you are telling us after nearly a year of debate that in reality you didn't pick up anything particularly valuable? (don't worry the answer to that was always obvious given you wouldn't disclose a single name).

 

[StargateCapital]

I sense that the .TV will be the new .NET and .CO to be the new .COM

I think that .co will be great for typos and that's about it really, just like .cm. Nothing will overcome .com, however .tv will continue to grow, possibly overtaking some other extensions in the process. It has great potential, and once Verisign erases premium pricing once and for all, .tv has nowhere to go but UP!

RL

 

[Animator]

I think that .co will be great for typos and that's about it really, just like .cm. Nothing will overcome .com, however .tv will continue to grow, possibly overtaking some other extensions in the process. It has great potential, and once Verisign erases premium pricing once and for all, .tv has nowhere to go but UP!

RL

Yes but... it doesn't matter if it's a typo of .com

I think it will take some time for this TLD to settle and though I don't think there's any reason to think it will revolutionize the internet like the advertisement says I do think it will get decent support from the business/commerce segment. I think it will surpass .org and probably .net's but I'm not so sure about it surpassing .com. You might want to wait to pre-register since is a bit expensive now. However pre registry is selling quite well right now. I myself have pre-registered a few domains, some priority ($300 each). No risk, no return.

Company, corporation was the first thing I thought when I saw it

MAY.CO since 1877

ACME CO.

Here's a little insider tip. .co WILL become extremely popular. Demand is higher then you know.

If your desired .com domain name is taken and the owner is asking 6 figures for it, you can get the .co for 2 figures !

You save 6 figures for the letter M !

It's a second chance.

.CM on the other hand MEANS NOTHING.

As for .TV, it's all about the future of television and it only targets the entertainment industry.

I think .TV be the 2nd most demanded ccTLD on the planet.

 

[gr8trfoo]

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