GoDaddy could wipe Efty, DAN, BB + off the map if Afternic were branded to GoDaddy

[Lox]

Read more (Comments @ Twitter ) (Comments @ DSAD)

Readers at DSAD agree and summarized in this great comment from Andy "GoDaddy
could wipe Efty, DAN, BB + clones off the map if Afternic were branded to GoDaddy; the site was updated and user friendly; and they were more democratic with tools, leads and data" (Comments @ Twitter ) (Comments @ DSAD)

 

[Internet.Domains]

It's on a domain. Twitter.com You're acting like my bicycle is going to devalue the value of my car. Twitter, Instagram and Namepros all have their value and can be complementary to a website. Each person can determine what they use it for. It may be marketing, it may be for entertainment. I tweet because its a quick way to communicate. And the real irony in your statement is my tweet is the headline of this thread. A tweet given publicity to me and our group over at DSAD.com. It's gotten people to think and discuss a topic, not just on Twitter but on other "domains" People may have even visited DSAD.com because of it. Pretty sure that's good for domains

Yes, discussion is good and thanks for starting the conversation.

I don't agree about your car/bicycle analogy. I would compare social media/domains to more of a combustible/electric car. Point being they compete for market share.

Thanks again for getting the wheels rolling. That is, for getting the conversation started, even if it was on social media.

 

[Sutruk]

So far:
https://auctions.godaddy.com/trpItemListing.aspx?domain=MyDomain.com

So far, "winners" are not aftermarket dept, but those depts who sell new gtlds, as new gtld registries are likely paying GD for extra visibility... Without this, our domains will be forever shown only in search results together with tons of alternative suggestions.

Thanks for the link! It redirects to another url for the same domain, but it works.
But still, it appears the "Appraisal" section for a make offer domain.
Thanks for the link. I have used it, but lost it and didn't know that it still works.

So far, "winners" are not aftermarket dept, but those depts who sell new gtlds, as new gtld registries are likely paying GD for extra visibility... Without this, our domains will be forever shown only in search results together with tons of alternative suggestions.

I totally agree with you.

 

[tonyk2000]

It redirects to another url for the same domain, but it works

It is supposed to. In particular, it also redirects to localized websites like uk.godaddy.com where appropriate...

 

[equity78]

It's on a domain. Twitter.com You're acting like my bicycle is going to devalue the value of my car. Twitter, Instagram and Namepros all have their value and can be complementary to a website. Each person can determine what they use it for. It may be marketing, it may be for entertainment. I tweet because its a quick way to communicate. And the real irony in your statement is my tweet is the headline of this thread. A tweet given publicity to me and our group over at DSAD.com. It's gotten people to think and discuss a topic, not just on Twitter but on other "domains" People may have even visited DSAD.com because of it. Pretty sure that's good for domains

Exactly it's a complimentary relationship, anyone ignoring social media does so at their own peril.

 

[oldtimer]

A clean lander without 100 of domain alternatives, new gtlds, or any domain appraisal.

It won't happen

You are assuming that Godaddy wants to make it possible for you as a domainer to extract the most money for your domains, but in reality because of its size and popularity with the general public Godaddy's first obligation is towards the people at large who might be its current or potential future customers and wants to protect them from domainers shooting the moon so to speak on their domains hence the fact that it provides appraisals and other domain choices on the Landers in order to keep the unsuspecting end users from paying too much on a domain that might be considered to be just ordinary or average. This way there will be more capital left in the hands of end users which might spend it on Godaddy's services instead of being scooped up by domainers.

IMO

PS: I like both Godaddy and Epik but I am not affiliated with either one ( or any other registrar or registry for that matter).

IMO

 

[MapleDots]

Not sure how this guy worked it around, but he managed to forward the GD registered name to a premium listing.

Example domain:

boostbusiness.com

Nameservers are >

ns57.domaincontrol.com
ns58.domaincontrol.com

If I try the same i got the following error message.

Show attachment 171523

Any idea ? @frank-germany

@chenzen below said it best

 

[chenzen]

Not sure how this guy worked it around, but he managed to forward the GD registered name to a premium listing.

Example domain:

boostbusiness.com

Nameservers are >

ns57.domaincontrol.com
ns58.domaincontrol.com

If I try the same i got the following error message.

Show attachment 171523

Any idea ? @frank-germany

It's basically pretty simple. Shorten your listing url with a url shortener like bitly. Now forward the domain to the shortened url.

 

[Internet.Domains]

I get the irony, but not much actual business is done on social media. It is mainly used for bitching and giving unsolicited opinions that others don't care about

Brad

It's hard to make a case that domains are important when you cause drama on Twitter. LMAO

 

[Internet.Domains]

namepros is social media

Most anybody who has brokered domains will have stories of businesses not wanting domains because they have Twitter, Facebook, etc. Many people dont see the importance of domains due to social media. With domain investors using so much social media (Twitter, FB, Insta) it strengthens the argument against the importance of a good domain.

 

[frank-germany]

We are also looking into branding for sale landers as GoDaddy so if you are selling domains with Afternic you can have brand recognition and trust from a potential buyer vs the Afternic brand. I think that will help a lot in regards to your statement that non domainers do not know Afternic. I think it will help them buy domains more comfortably but still not alienate our other registrar partners.

@Joe Styler

yes please, can we have that soon?

 

[Lox]

... it was domainers who built that platform ...
They forgot

 

[.X.]

I'm wondering who is still buying privacy @ gd and what for... With their current whois output format, only organization name is shown (if it is entered by the registrant) and a state/country. For most registrants, it is not critical whether those remaining details are hidden or no. So, yes, it might be techically easier to start offering full privacy for free.

Isn't the privacy option $9.99 a year??

Add that up for 1000 domain names, a huge loss for the domainer

 

[.X.]

Domain investors are also using GD, they just buy DCC, so nothing is running out. End users also have lots of great names, so inventory for auctions will be there, except we will see less and less of limited supply names, like LLL, LLLL etc, but supply for those will be drying globally, simply because it is too small number for the whole planet and more of those are put in use and/or are held by people/companies that don't let name expire.

And, again, in perspective, their biggest business is sales of names to end users or potential end users with upsell of bunch of other stuff, like hosting, privacy, guarantee etc., so they are not giving up hundreds of millions a year to improve chances of getting a bit better inventory for auctions. The whole auction department probably brings around $100MM/year for them.

Cool, and just like any other mainstream business who plays "Neiman Marcus" and isn't targeting Neiman Marcus wealthy buyers only, but mainstream consumers, will indeed see the empire fall.It always happens.

 

[tonyk2000]

Add that up for 1000 domain names, a huge loss for the domainer

With 1000 domains, one would likely have a dedicated account manager. Account managers (and even phone sales reps) should be allowed to provide discounts, in any company of such a size. Did you try to ask for better prices?

 

[wwwweb]

Interesting thread.

A scenario where Afternic 2.0 emerges assumes that Godaddy could execute an innovation agenda. In recent memory, no compelling evidence of this concept. This is why I predicted that GD will go buy it.

See here:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/happy-new-years-what-is-your-2020-forecast.1170533

This is largely a DNA issue. You can go hire that talent but it takes 2-3 years to get an innovation program firing on all cylinders, let alone for an organization with massive legacy data and likely outdated systems.

As near as I can tell, the internal innovation got cost-saved under the prior regime of beancounters. Either that, or the engineers were too busy putting out fires to line up an innovation agenda.

So, yes, it is a nice theory that Afternic 2.0 will emerge from an internal skunkworks project, but knowing the enabling requirements, I put low odds of a substantial Afternic 2.0 appearing in 2020.

A propos the comment from Reza about open access, Epik is on the Afternic MLS. That said, our request for the Godaddy auction API was formally declined. I was not entirely shocked, but still disappointed.

All indications are that Godaddy is a late-stage aspiring monopolist, milking the cow. And yet, they are nice people on the front line. Also, NamesCon, controlled by Godaddy, have been great to work with.

All that said, let's see what Aman Bhutani has to say at NamesCon in his keynote. Perhaps he will bring the beef. After all, he used to lead engineers. One man can make a difference so let's see what Aman brings.

The good news is that there is plenty of upside to go around.

Funny they would deny Epik an API, I see no reason why this is the case when many others out there have one.

Not sure if you have ever crossed paths with Aman given he worked 15 mins away from your HQ’s for many years at Expedia.

 

[tonyk2000]

Funny they would deny Epik an API

Why would Epik need an API access to GD? Interesting...

 

[Rob Monster]

Funny they would deny Epik an API, I see no reason why this is the case when many others out there have one.

Not sure if you have ever crossed paths with Aman given he worked 15 mins away from your HQ’s for many years at Expedia.

Never heard of him before.

I pinged him on LinkedIn a while back. He has yet to accept the invite:

I can't figure this guy out.

 

[JB Lions]

Never heard of him before.

I pinged him on LinkedIn a while back. He has yet to accept the invite:

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I can't figure this guy out.

He accepted mine awhile back, of course I said I was a long time customer/domainer.

This is going to sound like a dig at you but it's a serious question. Is it possible he Googled you? You continually link to MapleDot's thread for some reason, from a variety of places. You just keep giving that thread new links in. That's a basic part of SEO. You help keep that stuff on page 1 Google. I've always said stick to business, stop bringing that stuff up.

Or it could be he's busy and will eventually accept the invite and do business with you.

 

[marijuanadomain]

DomainShame is going to send me a free electric toothbrush!!

No transparency on the BIN landing page.

 

[marijuanadomain]

Aman Bhutani was the CEO of Expedia and got "fired"

I don't think he will last long at GD because his passion and skill sets are not in the domain business.

 

[valnames]

ns3 /ns4
never worked for my domains
aka made no sales
plus I have no traffic insight


by the way
you don't need to use
ns3/ns4 to get that landing page

redirecting to
https://www.afternic.com/forsale/domain.com
will do the same

correct:
you need to add
?traffic_id=daslnc
to the string
in order to display the GoDaddy Logo

$afternicurl ="http://www.afternic.com/forsale/";
$afternicurl .=$domain;
$afternicurl .="?traffic_id=daslnc";
header("Location: $afternicurl");


when you have a BIN set
this is the link:
https://www.afternic.com/domain/pkws.com

This is really useful! Thank you!

 

[freety85]

Not sure how this guy worked it around, but he managed to forward the GD registered name to a premium listing.

Example domain:

boostbusiness.com

Nameservers are >

ns57.domaincontrol.com
ns58.domaincontrol.com

If I try the same i got the following error message.

Any idea ? @frank-germany

 

[Deven Patel]

It's always interesting to learn about what these big companies are thinking. I've analyzed countless businesses over the years and one thing I realized was that things always look different from the outside. We generally don't have enough insider information to adequately predict the moves they'll make. I guess if we did we'd be making a killing in the stock market!

Nevertheless, we can still try! So I pulled out some data from GoDaddy's public financials that compares revenues between their domain vs non-domain segments. See below.

The profit chart on the bottom was extrapolated using a 35% margin for their domain segment and a 70% margin for their non-domain segment. Based on this data, it seems like GoDaddy may intentionally be trying not to innovate too much in domain related services.

Domains don't generate as much profit as they used to for them compared to some of their newer segments like web hosting and business apps (the "non-domain" segment above). Also, some of the other recent moves they've made help validate this logic (i.e. hiring a CEO with broader digital expertise, targeting a broader audience, etc). If they're looking to expand into other more profitable segments than it wouldn't make too much sense to keep spending money on their less profitable products and services.