discuss Germans like hyphens

[frank-germany]

germans like hyphens
but sometimes it's just too much:

today these guys just let a great domain expire

regionale-planungsgemeinschaft-anhalt-bitterfeld-wittenberg(/.)de

to me, this screams opportunity.
I guess they will regret.
catch it!

 

[BaileyUK]

It's odd why Germans like hyphens. I always have wondered why, anyone know? I am mostly talking about 2 word hyphenated dot-com.

I think you'll find with the Germans it has a lot to do with Clarity and Precision, Much the same as in their Business and Sex life

 

[Name Trader]

I not German, and I like hyphens



imo...

You're an honorary German

 

[Wesley S]

What about 4L.de? Will they compete with the king or be org value forever?

 

[MTB]

There are many companies in Germany using hyphenated domain names and the have not taken the un-hyphenated .de or .com. In many cases these domain names are generic so have considerable value to both an English and German-speaking audience. I'm not going to list any for obvious reasons but there's a goldmine there and some people are starting to dig...

 

[Blitzpotz]

There are many companies in Germany using hyphenated domain names and the have not taken the un-hyphenated .de or .com. In many cases these domain names are generic so have considerable value to both an English and German-speaking audience.

Be careful. In Germany, similar in Austria and in Switzerland, there is a strong right of a name in favour of persons, cities and companies. The right of a name is based on civil right and valid besides (and without) Trademarks.

 

[qualitydn]

I have e-handwerk.com

e-handwerk.de sold for $2,500 recently .

 

[lock]

I think sedo.de and the whole dot de movement is what made domains as popular as they are today but after com and de was taken the next thing was hyphens and these are now aging. The Germans made domaining a thing.

 

[Sandern]

I have e-handwerk.com

e-handwerk.de sold for $2,500 recently .

Good example of an hyphen domain being profitable.

 

[lock]

Good example of an hyphen domain being profitable.

But still not a good example of a domain one customer potential. If the buyer doesn't want dot com you can take what ever traffic it gets or drop it.

 

[RapidNames.com]

i am bit unlucky with german related hyphened names like T-De.com

received many fake offers but still no luck... i outreached t.de but no response

 

[Sandern]

i am bit unlucky with german related hyphened names like T-De.com

received many fake offers but still no luck... i outreached t.de but no response

Sometimes the waiting game is all we can do, and you might end up selling it for an unexpected amount.

 

[comati]

Germany is the only place where I've seen billboards with hyphenated dot info domains

 

[MTB]

Be careful. In Germany, similar in Austria and in Switzerland, there is a strong right of a name in favour of persons, cities and companies. The right of a name is based on civil right and valid besides (and without) Trademarks.

@Blitzpotz - I assume you mean that the .de, .ch and .at registries rather than .com?

 

[mAd MaX]

germans like hyphens
but sometimes it's just too much:

today these guys just let a great domain expire

regionale-planungsgemeinschaft-anhalt-bitterfeld-wittenberg(/.)de

to me, this screams opportunity.
I guess they will regret.
catch it!

What does it mean?

 

[Blitzpotz]

@Blitzpotz - I assume you mean that the .de, .ch and .at registries rather than .com?

In principle yes. Boris Becker, like me no lawyer and better Tennis player I suppose, would say the ccTLDs are the living rooms of right of a name owners.

But I wouldn´t bet on it. There is jurisdiction like Solingen.info where the City of Solingen has enforced its right of a name against the domain owner. This is not necessarily transferable to every other gTLD or nTLD as the court stated that a webuser expects information about the city transported with this domain.

Often right of a name owners have the TM, too. Here the state of Bavaria has decided to use its TM to get the domain Neuschwanstein.pro with an UDRP. I assume they wanted it to be decided quickly, German legal recourse may take years and foreign domain owners are making it more complicated with national courts.

 

[MTB]

In principle yes. Boris Becker, like me no lawyer and better Tennis player I suppose, would say the ccTLDs are the living rooms of right of a name owners.

But I wouldn´t bet on it. There is jurisdiction like Solingen.info where the City of Solingen has enforced its right of a name against the domain owner. This is not necessarily transferable to every other gTLD or nTLD as the court stated that a webuser expects information about the city transported with this domain.

Often right of a name owners have the TM, too. Here the state of Bavaria has decided to use its TM to get the domain Neuschwanstein.pro with an UDRP. I assume they wanted it to be decided quickly, German legal recourse may take years and foreign domain owners are making it more complicated with national courts.

Surely I could rename my cat Neuschwanstein and create a website in German called Neuschwanstein.de with running 24 hour news coverage on it's every twitch and meeow. How could a UDRP take the domain?

 

[Blitzpotz]

Surely I could rename my cat Neuschwanstein and create a website in German called Neuschwanstein.de with running 24 hour news coverage on it's every twitch and meeow. How could a UDRP take the domain?

If it was a dog, a Deutscher Schaeferhund, then you´d have perhaps a chance.

However, to avoid an everlasting prison in the UDRP database, I found a rather good drop by tomorrow for you matching the topic of this thread though it´s not German:
burnley-says-no-to-hollins-cross-farm-development.com

 

[frank-germany]

Surely I could rename my cat Neuschwanstein and create a website in German called Neuschwanstein.de with running 24 hour news coverage on it's every twitch and meeow.

simple answer is:
no

 

[MTB]

A complainant in a UDRP proceeding must establish three elements to succeed:

• The domain name is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which the complainant has rights;

AND

• The registrant does not have any rights or legitimate interests in the domain name; and

AND

• The domain name has been registered and the domain name is being used in "bad faith".

In my cat example:

• UDRP can proceed...
• My cat is called Neuschwanstein (its cat insurance documents show the name), so I have a legitimate interest
  
• I have a cat website totally unrelated to a castle in Germany - how can you prove bad faith?

 

[frank-germany]

A complainant in a UDRP proceeding must establish three elements to succeed:

• The domain name is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which the complainant has rights;

AND

• The registrant does not have any rights or legitimate interests in the domain name; and

AND

• The domain name has been registered and the domain name is being used in "bad faith".

In my cat example:

• UDRP can proceed...
• My cat is called Neuschwanstein (its cat insurance documents show the name), so I have a legitimate interest
  
• I have a cat website totally unrelated to a castle in Germany - how can you prove bad faith?

you are not dealing with the UDRP Panel
when it comes to .de domains